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35 weeks and dh decides he doesn't like the idea of a homebirth (long)

post #1 of 20
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I'm 35 weeks and all my kids have been born early, one at 32 weeks, one at 34, one just under 36, so I'm expecting this baby to be born soon. I have to be 36 weeks to have the baby at home so just one more week.

Yesterday was the home visit with the midwife and her assistant. DH has not attended any of the prenatal appointments because of work, not a big deal since he has never gone to appointments even with the babies I saw an ob with. He has never been very involved with any of the pregnancies or births (he was overseas for the last one) but I'm ok with that, I'm not expecting lots of active help - just quiet support.

After the home visit he told me how crazy he thinks homebirth is. He doesn't just think it's a bad idea for me, he was going on about how the baby is 'three times more likely to not live through it' and how if anything happens it will all be my fault. I tried to explain about how the statistics he was quoting are flawed because they group all homebirths together but he didn't seem to care. He is especially annoyed over the idea of a birth pool but he didn't explain why. I have a feeling that at least part of the problem is the cost even though I saved money out of my household budget to pay for the midwife and birth supplies.

All the other kids were born in hospitals and I'm not opposed to hospital birth but after researching the hospital here I decided it was not a place I wanted to give birth. DH said he didn't see the big deal with all the issues there: the nearly 50% c-section rate, the cps calls when parents refuse bottles of formula, the mandatory nursery stays, ivs in labor, bed confinement in labor, constant monitoring in labor, and so on. He just doesn't get what the problem is!

He is saying that he's not sure if he wants to be here for the birth, he's thinking of taking the other kids to a hotel. I'm so disappointed that he is even thinking about not being here.

I wonder if part of the problem is how he was brought up. His dad is a doctor, as are many other members of his family. His little brother was born by accident at home and had to go to the hospital (but was fine and the problem would have happened in the hospital anyway, I know because I got the whole story from his mom).

Has anyone else had this problem so late in the game?
post #2 of 20
My usual response to these issues is: No Vagina, No Vote. Specially if they are checked out of the whole process. I would tell him he has no veto power now and that if he wants to leave he should recognize what damage he will be doing to your faith and trust in your relationship. Honestly, at this point its just cruel.
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by homewithtwinsmama View Post
My usual response to these issues is: No Vagina, No Vote. Specially if they are checked out of the whole process. I would tell him he has no veto power now and that if he wants to leave he should recognize what damage he will be doing to your faith and trust in your relationship. Honestly, at this point its just cruel.
^ truth
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Let me add that obviously I'm not going to change my plans at this point. I never said he was trying to change it anyway, he's just telling me how much he disapproves and how unsafe he feels it is.

I did tell him when he brought it up that when he gives birth I will be happy to support his decision to do so in a hospital
post #5 of 20
Wow. I have to be honest, whether or not he's trying to get you to change plans, that's pretty douchey to dump this on you NOW, especially if he's so uninvolved in the process to begin with. I'm all for dads getting to voice their opinions, but the time to do that was months ago.
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post #6 of 20
Well I'm glad you are not considering a change of plans now. Since it sounds like feelings are involved on both sides now, maybe the best thing to try would be to talk about feelings. Don't even bother attempting rational persuasion...he's not open to it and is clearly being led by feelings disguised as facts ('3 times more likely not to make it through'...???). Maybe begin by making a time for the 2 of you to be undisturbed by the other kids/family--and just tell him lovingly that you are aware he's not at all comfortable with your birth plan and hope that he will talk more with you about his feelings and hear yours as well (your disappointment in his recent remarks, etc).

Let him know that how he feels is important to you, give him a chance to speak. If he tries to bring it into the realm of supposed 'facts' ('3 times more likely not to make it through', etc), you can just reflect his feelings again "I hear your worry about our safety", for instance. Work to keep it an honest exchange of feelings, rather than an argument...and you can even tell him, if he resists this, that while you're not open to debating the facts at this point, you *are* hoping that the 2 of you can share and sort out all the feelings for the sake of your increased love and unity.
post #7 of 20
Perhaps the best place for him is at a hotel. You know you are strong and capable of birthing without him. If you think he won't listen, support you, and make a total 180, I might just agree with him. Adios! I'll call you after the baby arrives.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by elus0814 View Post
DH said he didn't see the big deal with all the issues there: the nearly 50% c-section rate, the cps calls when parents refuse bottles of formula, the mandatory nursery stays, ivs in labor, bed confinement in labor, constant monitoring in labor, and so on. He just doesn't get what the problem is!

REALLY?
He really doesn't see the problem with all of that?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that perhaps this is something you haven't discussed repeatedly or extensively? Did he maybe say in the heat of frustration, "I don't see what the big deal is with the hospital?"

Because if he REALLY THOUGHT about it - I mean, gave it ANY THOUGHT, he'd know how atrociously awful all of those things are. The mandatory nursery stay & formula alone - that can absolutely, 100% KILL a BFing relationship. Kill it - done - no BFing. & that is to say nothing of a 50% CS rate. Does he really not know that they may railroad you into a CS? Does he not know about "pit to distress," AROM without even telling you let alone obtaining consent? Honestly, does he really and truly not know the DANGER YOU WOULD BE IN in that hospital?

(So long as I stayed healthy/low-risk, I'd absolutely UC before I'd birth in a place like that- and I'd consider that the less risky option.)

I'm not a van of the "no vagina, no vote" mindset. The fact of the matter is that while you are the one giving birth, you're giving birth to the baby & birth CAN be risky for a baby - and both parents are responsible for the baby's well being. So logically, that doesn't compute for me.

However, I vehemently believe, "No education, no vote." if you don't KNOW the types of things I outlined above, then you're uneducated & you're not making a decision based on knowledge, so you've vote honestly ought to be disregarded.

Do you think there is any hope you could use logic & facts to bring him around? Or would your best bet just be to use emotion & ask him to trust you & respect your wishes & desires (since your emotional comfort is actually an important factor in a good birth outcome.)

I'm sorry you're facing this. & I agree that it's absolutely ridiculous for him to throw this at you NOW - so late in the game. The fact that he didn't bring this all up months ago is another reason I think his opinion can fairly be disregarded.
post #9 of 20
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Perhaps the best place for him is at a hotel. You know you are strong and capable of birthing without him. If you think he won't listen, support you, and make a total 180, I might just agree with him. Adios! I'll call you after the baby arrives.
I have to agree with this. But you know your DH best. If you think he's just blowing off steam/fear of his own/whatever now, but will be there to support you and NOT stress you out when the time comes, then he stays.

But! If he is going to be jerky and unsupportive or just have a tension vibe around him... I think him going will be the best thing for you and baby.
post #10 of 20
Yeah, I third the idea that maybe a hotel is a good place for him to be. He absolutely should have voiced his concern months and months ago when there was a potential to talk through it together, educate him, explain why this is the best place for you and your baby, etc. Since that time has passed and you aren't changing your plans, it's probably better that he not bring the negativity and doubt to the birth. I know it would be hard to not have your partner there to share the experience, but you definitely don't want to be dealing with his stress and emotions while you're trying to have a baby.
post #11 of 20
That must be hard to lack his support. I've never seen such a clear-cut case for HB-- with a hospital like that, duh!

I would probably buy him The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth (Goer) and make him sit down and read it, and not talk about it with him until he did (unless he starts jumping up and exclaiming and seeing the light! ). The research is clear. If you can, disabuse him about the poorly reported HB study-- there are plenty of blogs that go over its flaws very clearly. Once you're educated about the safety of HB and the real risks of interventions, it's hard to argue and not really get it. Good luck!
post #12 of 20
Knowing guys, he could be meaning something different than what he is saying. If it came after the home visit where he actually attended, it could be that he realized that he has been very emotionally removed from the pregnancy and baby and is trying to dump on you in ways that he knows will get to you and diffuse his hurt. Sort of the "I hurt, you pay" approach.

As you talk to him about it, maybe bring up how he feels about the changes you all are about to have, how he can prepare himself, how you can help him with involvement and bonding, etc. and keep the focus away from statistics, etc. I have a feeling that it's just a cover.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by NortheastSuperstar View Post
Knowing guys, he could be meaning something different than what he is saying. If it came after the home visit where he actually attended, it could be that he realized that he has been very emotionally removed from the pregnancy and baby and is trying to dump on you in ways that he knows will get to you and diffuse his hurt. Sort of the "I hurt, you pay" approach.

As you talk to him about it, maybe bring up how he feels about the changes you all are about to have, how he can prepare himself, how you can help him with involvement and bonding, etc. and keep the focus away from statistics, etc. I have a feeling that it's just a cover.
This is what I thought when I read the OP, too. Seems like something else is going on. I wonder, too, if he's getting flak from his family and he's having trouble standing up to them. I'm sorry, OP I hope he comes around.
post #14 of 20
Guys have such weird ways of expressing emotions, and my guess would be that he has something else going on. Like NE Superstar said, he probably realized how little support he's actually been offering. Or maybe he's afraid of losing or having something go wrong with you or the baby and that's the only way he knows how to get that across.
I'm so sorry he's treating this whole situation like this. I know it's kind of last minute, but can you maybe try to find a doula in training (so the cost is minimal) to help you out just in case he does end up going to a hotel?
Hugs!
post #15 of 20


Um. Wow. I'm in the "no education, no vote" camp. My husband was uncomfortable with homebirth, but he expressed his views early and often, which allowed us to (somewhat) work through them. In the end he decided that he "trusted me and my decision making abilities." We did transfer after my first UC (the attended part had to be scraped for various reasons), but he was totally on board for UC #2 and #3, and has no problem with me using a midwife for the birth of baby #5. It would be ugly if he went the whole pregnancy without saying a thing about his concerns and then dumped on me right before I was due to give birth.
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for the responses. Things have calmed down a bit but I know he's still not comfortable with the whole idea. Last night I inflated the birth pool to let it sit so I could be sure it was ok and he seemed ok with having it out for the night but didn't offer to help set it up or take it down, although he did carry it for me when I asked.

I'm not sure if telling his family about it is a problem for him. He hasn't mentioned it to his family but his mom is coming in from out of state next week for a visit and there is a good chance she will be here for the birth and he will have to tell her. I don't see what the problem is with that since she is not judgmental in any way.

I feel like I have plenty of support, even if he chooses not to be here. The midwife brings a midwifery student and a doula. I will need him to be here at first because the midwife is an hour and a half away. I think it bothered him when the midwife explained that there is a chance the baby could be born before she gets here because I have small babies and fast labors. He was an emt and it's our fourth baby so I think it would be fine but maybe he's concerned that all the responsibility is going to be put on him.
post #17 of 20
Okay, that last part...you should *definitely* talk to him about. I think that is a perfectly valid thing to be concerned about from his point of view. As an EMT he isn't there for the normal homebirths. I'm glad he carried the birth pool for you, but I still think y'all need to communicate about this. I guess my thought is that talking now may prevent lots of hurt feelings, frustration, and bitterness in the future.

I wish you the best! A peaceful, drama free birth and a happy, healthy baby!

Jenne
post #18 of 20
Chiming in with the unpopular view, here! I actually think that what he's doing is perfectly normal. Not justifiable, not easy to live with . . . . just normal. Pre-baby anxiety always builds near the end, and people express it in different ways. It doesn't help that their anxiety contributes to the pregnant mama's anxiety!

Is he at least open to meeting with your MW to express his fears and reservations? Any experienced MW will be used to and comfortable with a list of what-if questions. (What if there's shoulder dystocia? What if the placenta comes out first? What if the baby isn't breathing?) Let him ask ANY questions that he wants. This process alone was an immense help for my DH. If your DH still comes out of the interview in disbelief, then I agree with PPs that he should simply leave the premises for the birth and wait for the call that his healthy, pink son/daughter has arrived.
post #19 of 20
You should tell him you are not comfortable with a hospital birth, deaths from births in hospitals are much higher than at home, and it is your body, your choice. Tell him also that he better come up with some proof to his claim that a home birth is so dangerous.

Oh, and I had a baby die from mistakes made at a hospital. Then I found out I simply joined a club of people who have had babies die from hospital mistakes. And, I actually almost died from my last hospital birth myself. Hospitals are not safer than home. And babies do die in hospitals. What does he really think they can do at the hospital that will help anything?
post #20 of 20
How frustrating that he dumps this on you at the end of your pregnancy! You should get him to watch The Business of Being Born with you. That documentary totally sold my husband on the idea of homebirths. I hope he comes around. Maybe his feelings are being driven a lot by fear. Do you have any friends who have had homebirths that he could talk to?

Good luck!
Coral Jean
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