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post #101 of 211
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You're welcome, New!

MLW, it makes me smile to read what you're doing since you're a full cycle ahead of us. It feels like we'll never be that advanced!!

We finished making our Nile River from construction paper today.

We did history and math today. I could not get them to stop on the math. They spend 50 minutes doing page and page even when they clearly were DONE. Ack.
Loved their enthusiasm! Hated the whining at the end.
It's not like I put a timer on the math or anything...
Oh, ditto!!!! I finally feel like ds is maturing so much and we are making such good progress but I cannot phathom being "there."

Oh, and why is kids do that? Keep going and going and then get ticked about it?

We have RS lvl B math which he has been kind of bored w/ as most of the lessons was beginner type things that he understood just presented in their way. I wanted to make sure we had the concepts down in the way they do it though. However, we seem to be turning a corner and he was somewhat challenged yesterday and seemed to enjoy it more. Being the way his brain works it is hard for him to learn random things like the days of the week BUT the adding and subtracting he thinks is easy as pie.

We did our d' Aulaires Columbus book. I just absolutely love their books. Some editing but mostly good. We ended up reading the whole book even though I only had half scheduled however we didn't get to the project for Columbus I had scheduled. I think we will move it to next week as I orignally had it scheduled to do Columbus anyway from our Eggleston book.

He is progressing well through handwriting and I am amazed at the changes. Reading went better as well, but that seems to be in phases depending on his mood.
post #102 of 211
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It's like they (ds#1 and ds#2) woke up one morning and suddenly could read and write somewhat coherently and do bigger math problems.
I get that, my szon is younger -- but skills -- in him -- seem to need to simmer -- Dh and I talked about this last night actually. no skill, nothing, can't seem to get it, is silly about it ... then BAM one day out of the blue he has like 90 to 95% mastery.

In the spring he could not rhyme -- in July that switch turned ON and that was that. a month ago very little phonics, now 95% mastery.
post #103 of 211
We just started using Classic Science from eequalsmcq.com and I love it! My son was talking about biotic and abiotic objects all day yesterday. I wasn't going to use a science curriculum because I couldn't find one that seemed to fit our needs (secular, rigorous, not too parent work-intensive) but this is perfect.

We also just started FLL and I'm skipping a lot of lessons to try and get through the 1st grade half without too much mind-numbing boredom. My almost-8 yr. old doesn't need to spend a month on the definition of a noun, but he didn't know it so we did have to cover it.

He really, really struggles with the narration parts of WWE. He gets almost every question about the story wrong. How can I help him listen better?

So basically: YAY math and science, BOO language arts. Although spelling is okay.
post #104 of 211
Curious

If you are doing a rotation for history and/or science what cycle are you currently on?

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We are doing a 3 year rotation for history, science, and bible.

Year one:
History: Ancients, Classical, and Early Middle Ages
Science: Biology and 1 term of earth science
Bible: Bible History

Year 2:
History: Middle ages, Renassiance, Exploration
Science: Earth Science and Chemistry (2 terms of each)
Bible: Early Church/Missionaries

Year 3
History: 1838-now
Science: 1 term Chemistry and Physics
Bible: Christian view vs world view

We are currently on Year 2
post #105 of 211
Crunchy, we are doing RS level A since DS is only 5 and DD didn't finish Calvert math last year. I wanted to be sure they had an absolute understanding of the concepts before we moved on. They are sometimes bored but I love that they are gaining confidence from doing tons of pages at a time. I think we'll be through these books by Xmas. I love RightStart books!
I also have their primary critical thinking skills books but we haven't cracked those yet.

I remember for myself that I felt like once I got lost in math, I could never, ever, ever catch up. I went from A's in geometry to D's in algebra and I was trying soooooo hard. I think I've cried more tears for algebra than almost any boy.
I cannot wait until the kids are old enough for the ethics and logic stuff!!

Angel, we are doing cycle one, level one of HO which means we're doing the ancients this year. We're doing K math right now (see above) and both first and 2nd grade science a'la WTM.

We'll be starting SSL for Latin if the darn student boook EVER shows up.

I've got "100 Reading Lessons" but I was bored out of my skull reading just the intro so I don't know about that. We have lots of readers around the house but right now, I'm just focusing on reading to them and letting their natural curiosity for writing develop into a curiosity for reading. We're getting there!

My kids want to write first. I think they might be weird.

MJB, the classica science sit looks awesome! In your opinion, what ages would that be perfect for?

I have NO idea why kids keep going past the point of boredom or exhaustion. Insanity? Early dementia?
post #106 of 211
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Jennifer, I thought of you and your kids this morning when ds#1 decided to start math at 8:30. (We usually start between 9:30 and 10, *after* I've showered, we've had our morning routine of straightening up, and we've eaten breakfast.) Then he was fussing because he was struggling (he's doing division). Then, ds#2 woke and of course couldn't have ds#1 get ahead of him, so he started to do work but complained and fussed about it almost the entire time. Oy ... after they did their math and independent work, I told them they were all done until *I* was ready to do school. Unfortunately the whole day has had that feel - they are trying to force activities or lessons well before I'm ready. (I'm having a wonderful "I'm in my third trimester and cranky" days.)

In all, we did math, spelling, writing (liking the IEW so far), and grammar (only analyzing one sentence from MCT's Practice Island). I think I'm done. I have something to read for history, but it's not huge if we skip it (we read yesterday as well; I think they are good on early Greece and the Olympics). FLL and Latin can be bumped to tomorrow without any worry. I'm just toast today.

The IEW was the highlight of our morning (well, we also took a walk around the block with the camera taking pictures to document the first day of autumn ). Yesterday we did the Key Word Outline on the short reading selection provided. Then we practiced retelling/narrating the original work back using only the KWO. Today, they had to write 2-4 original sentences based on the KWO and also narrate the whole thing back to me while I typed it on the computer. So, ds#1 had to write the 1st sentence, choose 1-2 for the middle of his paragraph from the KWO, and then write the concluding sentence. He did a wonderful job. (He even opened his paragraph with a catching question rather than just a statement: "Did you know there are millions of floating rocks in our solar system?") Ds#2 had to just write the opening sentence and the concluding sentence based on the KWO. He did an awesome job too. Tomorrow and Thursday we'll repeat the same process with another selection from All Things Fun & Fascinating.
post #107 of 211
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Curious

If you are doing a rotation for history and/or science what cycle are you currently on?
We follow Story of the World for history. With DS (the oldest), I'm planning to skip year 4 (not ignore the contents entirely, but do it more independently/supplemental over the course of third and fourth grade) and go straight back to year 1, which will get him, DD, and not-yet-born DD2 all on the same rotation.

We currently do interest-driven science, and probably will primarily continue with that through the grammar stage, but I'm thinking perhaps we'll get a bit formal with Chemistry this year - virtual schooling high school housemate is taking Chemistry, and is happy to include him in her experiments, so it seems a good opportunity.
post #108 of 211
MLW, last year i made the mistake of telling DD that we'd "do school" anytime she asks.

Imagine my HORROR when she woke me up at 6:00 a.m. the following morning for school when we normally rise between 9:00 and 10:00 a.m.

We're night folk. I make no apologies for that. Do not disturb me before brunch!
post #109 of 211
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MLW, last year i made the mistake of telling DD that we'd "do school" anytime she asks.

Imagine my HORROR when she woke me up at 6:00 a.m. the following morning for school when we normally rise between 9:00 and 10:00 a.m.

We're night folk. I make no apologies for that. Do not disturb me before brunch!
I am right there with you. Technically, I'm not a night person, but I'm also not a "get up and go" person ... I like my slow-to-rise routine and am not ready for too many demands before 9:30 (and my shower!).
post #110 of 211
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Imagine my HORROR when she woke me up at 6:00 a.m. the following morning for school when we normally rise between 9:00 and 10:00 a.m.

We're night folk. I make no apologies for that. Do not disturb me before brunch!
Amen to that! My 6yo and I have a tendency to sit down and do our quiet/read aloud thing after the other kidlets are in bed. He absolutely loves it. Probably in part because he gets me to himself for a little bit, but still. I really am not a fan of mornings. Sigh.

I almost throw things at folks that suggest I get the kids up earlier than their usual 7:30-9am (yeah, it varies) to get to something early in the morning. I refrain, but the urge is still there.
post #111 of 211
I am an early person here! I function best early to bed and early up. I usuaully go to bed w/ the kids but get up early to have time to myself. Kids get up around 7 ,bfast at 8 and lessons at 9 here.
post #112 of 211
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Curious

If you are doing a rotation for history and/or science what cycle are you currently on?
For world history we're using SOTW and doing a 4-year rotation.

Ancient Times
The Middle Ages (current time period)
Early Modern Times
The Modern Age

We're doing American History as a 3-year cycle and as a separate subject. For the logic and rhetoric stages we'll use that extra year to study government and economics.

For science we're also on a 4-year cycle. Right now we're using R.E.A.L. Science Odyssey.

Life
Earth & Space (current time period)
Chemistry
Physics
post #113 of 211
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MJB, the classica science sit looks awesome! In your opinion, what ages would that be perfect for?
It's pretty challenging for my 2nd grader; he can read it himself but I read the chapters to him slowly and have him repeat the vocab definitions when they are first written. I think it would be *ideal* for 3rd-4th graders or gifted 1st-2nd graders.

Since my son went to school last year, we're starting with Ancient History and Life Sciences this year in 2nd.

I'm not a morning person but since my kindergartner has to be at school by 8, I am up and ready to start school after I drop him off. Kidlet takes a little longer to wake up and eat breakfast, sometimes stopping to rest in bed for a while longer, but we are always started by 8:30. If I'm really exhausted I will take a short nap while he does as much as he can on his own (math, spelling if it's not a test day, rosetta stone, typing).
post #114 of 211
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Curious

If you are doing a rotation for history and/or science what cycle are you currently on?
We are on a four-year cycle with world history. This year should have been Modern Times (with last year having been Early Modern), but I wanted to keep ds#1 and ds#2 together for history, and ds#2 seemed too young to be going into Modern Times as a young 2nd grader, so I back-tracked. We are finishing Ancients this year (started it last year when we finished Medieval Times as I had decided then what we were going to do). Ds#1 will make it through the complete cycle 2x (4th - 7th, 8th - 11th); ds#2 will make it through three times (2nd - 5th; 6th - 9th). Ds#3 be in 1st grade when the older two are studying Early Modern Times, so I don't think I'll keep him with them in the rotation and will probably start him in Ancient Times in 1st grade. I have no idea where Little Bean will eventually be (not only can I not think that far into the future this early in the morning, but our state is also passing legislation moving the K start date, which would alter when we put Little Bean on our affidavit as a 1st grader).

For US history, we are doing a 2-year cycle this time around as more of a survey. We might start US history over again when we hit Early Modern Times in 2 years and use Joy Hakim's books over two years (Early Modern & Modern Times). I also want to do civics and economics in there somewhere too when ds#1 hits middle school and ds#2 is in late elementary, and again when ds#1 hits high school and ds#2 his middle school). Obviously, that I need to plan a bit better.

For science, I'm just happy right now we're doing science! Though we are in Ancients this year for history, we are doing REAL Science Odyssey Earth & Space as that was what the boys wanted to do. I'm not sure I share SWB's ideas about keeping science and history aligned. I might square it back up when we hit our second cycle through, or even this time through. We've already (somewhat haphazardly) done chemistry and dabbled in physics, so we could do those again as we go through the history cycle next year and the following year. We have yet to formally study life science, but we do some Nature Study each year, which has been a nice introduction to life science around here, and will continue that for years to come. So, if we don't get to a formal life science curriculum for four more years (our next cycle through Ancients), I think we'll be okay.
post #115 of 211
We're cycling History, but not Science. We're on Ancients for History, but are currently doing a unit on Prehistory first. I honestly couldn't stand the thought of studying one Science all year, although I do see the benefit of it and may grow into it. I bought Noeo Physics 2, Chemistry 2, and Biology 2. I've combined all three and separated it into 3 years, only each year contains all 3 subjects. We'll see if I decide to stick with this. Right now we are doing Physics. We are actually doing Science 4 days a week, with plenty of experiments!
post #116 of 211
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I remember that feeling - I never thought we'd get to the point where we are now. Sometimes I don't know how we got to this point though. It's like they (ds#1 and ds#2) woke up one morning and suddenly could read and write somewhat coherently and do bigger math problems. Suddenly they are reading everything (it was a long road to get ds#1 to this point; ds#2 actually is reading above his grade level).
I think we're starting to get there! Huge waves of relief rolling over this hs momma.

The reading seems to be getting easier for dd. Last night we were flipping through "A Child's Own Book of Verse, Book 1", and I realized that she could probably read most of it. I think it's the perfectionism that holds her back. Taking turns, she ended up reading a pretty long poem with me, and not even stumbling or struggling to sound out unfamiliar words.

We received our new materials the other day!! I'm reading through All About Spelling, and I think we'll start it next week. We're starting at Level 1, but we ordered the Level 2 readers, and she has been pretty happy about being able to independently read them. Really excited---I think that taking a lot of time right now to really strengthen the foundational stuff is going to pay off in the long run.

Cursive First is here. Haven't had a chance to dig into it yet. We'll probably start that up in a couple of weeks. DD's print copywork has improved massively this week, too, so I think she's ready.

Isn't it amazing how they make these huge leaps all at once?

We've been working so much on the reading that we haven't had time for hardly anything else besides math I think it's worth it, though.

So Science and Social Studies have been on the back burner for now. I decided to depart from the Classical method for SS, but we've been reviewing the continents, and I'm going to download some images for continent folders. She's been asking about SOTW which we have started twice but never kept up much momentum. I really, really want the audio book for it. I think that would make a huge difference.

For Science, we have the Real Science for Kids materials for dd which should keep us busy for several years. We are taking a break from it, though, and doing more hands-on and less workbook-ish stuff. I think that's working, too, though, because she seems to be retaining a lot of what we've gone over for anatomy.

Also, still love love love SSL! I am so impressed that my dd is actually learning Latin Can't wait to start SS Greek, but I think we'll wait til we've got most of SSL under our belts. I have Minimus for next year, so I think when SSL is done, we'll move on to Minimus/SSG.

Digging the blank Main Lesson Books for every subject. Last year we had a lot of loose leaf stuff floating around, and this year, it's really nice just to be able to flip through and see all the progress so far in one bound book. Plus, it's nice to show the grandparents

Yay!

Hooray for Classical Homeschooling!!!
post #117 of 211
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Only two lessons in, but I am still liking IEW's All Things Fun & Fascinating. I still am not 100% happy with the program (don't like using "dress-ups" and am not a big "check-list after writing" person). But, my previously pencil-phobic ds#1 just wrote an 8-sentence paragraph on his own (he was told to use his Key Word Outline and write at least a 4-sentence paragraph; he choose to do it all)! : Anything that can have him writing that much and that well on his own is worth it to me. So, I'm seriously considering buying the Student Writing Intensive next year (well, this summer; we go year round) to do along with MCT Town level series for him. (Ds#2 would do WWE 3 with the MCT Town materials.)
post #118 of 211
We're following AO pretty much to a T this year and I have to say it's going really well! I really get why CM recommended waiting until the child is closer to 7 before starting year 1. My ds is getting so much out of the fairy tales and historical adventure tales.

We tried a lighter schedule using some of the same resources last year but he just wasn't ready for them yet. He can't get enough of them now though, and he's approaching 7.

The 10-min lessons work really well for us too. He can read and write well, but 10 min is all he really seems to want to spend doing those activities.

He'll sit for read-alounds for hours though
post #119 of 211
Daddy is still home this week so we haven't gotten as much done as I'd like. However, we did finish science and we've only got a little bit left of history. I love having DH around but he really interrupts the flow of our day.
We've got to watch a 2 part DVD series on ancient India this weekend.

Today will be a library run, pick out an Earth feature and an animal, buy ink for the printer, and pay the Target bill day.

We also started the easy readers a friend lent me yesterday. It went really well!!

Crud. This post was all about me. I'll be back to actually ask about you all when I resolve the bike conflict in the driveway.
post #120 of 211
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Daddy is still home this week so we haven't gotten as much done as I'd like. However, we did finish science and we've only got a little bit left of history. I love having DH around but he really interrupts the flow of our day.
We've got to watch a 2 part DVD series on ancient India this weekend.

Today will be a library run, pick out an Earth feature and an animal, buy ink for the printer, and pay the Target bill day.

We also started the easy readers a friend lent me yesterday. It went really well!!

Crud. This post was all about me. I'll be back to actually ask about you all when I resolve the bike conflict in the driveway.
We tend to do 4-5 weeks of school in the summer while dh is home on summer break (he teaches). I too love him home, but it totally makes our days flow differently. And as much as I know what the school year will bring in terms of work, stress, and being home after 5:30, I also love the routine the boys and I have when it's just us.

We had a rougher week than normal - mostly because I've hit the "I'm 30 weeks pregnant and cranky" phase. Overall, though, most everything was completed. I did postpone a science lab until next week (which actually works better because the three labs scheduled for next week should be done altogether and combined shouldn't take more than an hour), but otherwise we're pretty much on target in terms of what I wanted to accomplish.

Today we have US history (I think just reading), art, and nature study. I hope to get to the Nature Center today to find some ducks and geese (the subject of our Autumn outdoor hour challenge), but if we do, we need to go earlier rather than later - it's forecasted to be close to 90 today and only is going to get hotter as the weekend progresses. That doesn't fit in well with the "I'm 30 weeks pregnant and cranky" mood.
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