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post #161 of 211
Crunchy, we're going to hit an orchard this week too.

We got so much work done this weekend!!! Does anyone else find that they do more school on the weekends? Maybe it's just that DH isn't around. But we basically got a week's worth of history done today. And the kids read two books to me each. They love using the Brand New Readers because of the stickers and charts.

We're going to go to bed and watch a DVD on Stonehenge. Then we're moving onto ancient Crete next. We get to read about the minotaur!!!

Science this week for us is the domestic cat and rainforests. I have a stack of books on rainforests about 3 feet high. We may not get to all of them.
post #162 of 211
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Crunchy, we're going to hit an orchard this week too.

We got so much work done this weekend!!! Does anyone else find theat they do more school on the weekends? Maybe it's just that DH isn't around. But we basically got a week's worth of history done today. And the kids read two books to me each. They love using the Brand New Readers because of the stickers and charts.

We're going to go to bed and watch a DVD on Stonehenge. Then we're moving onto ancient Crete next. We get to read about the minotaur!!!

Science this week for us is the domestic cat and rainforests. I have a stack of books on rainforests about 3 feet high. We may not get to all of them.
I don't know about weekends, but when dh is around we do very little, and what we attempt doesn't tend to go smoothly.
post #163 of 211
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I don't know about weekends, but when dh is around we do very little, and what we attempt doesn't tend to go smoothly.
Ditto

If Dh is home -- they do music or maybe science -- but nothing else happens. School is for DH gone time ...
post #164 of 211
I don't do much w/ dh around either. The house usually falls apart as well!! Jennifer I am anxious to hear aobut your apple Orchard trip as well. HS group is visiting the fire house on Friday(and then to the park). The kids will be so excited!!

DS did an entire week of handwriting today. We did 2 days of religion as well. However, tomorrow is Library and we are always short on time in the morning. We still have art to do today and reading. I hope to tackle planning out next term's history and science as well. Well, I have the schedule but want some notebook pages and little projects for them.

We finished Mr. Popper's Penguins and trying to decide on the next read-aloud. I am thinking E.B. White OR Holling book. We are listening to Dragon Rider as well in the car and have all been enjoying that. There is a fall reading program going on right now and evidently some of those who read the most get to have plane rides. So, we are holding out slim hope of winning a prize(not sure how many there are). Each sheet holds 45 books and we plan to finish a sheet a week- ranging from chapter books to picture books.
post #165 of 211
We're heading to the library today too, Crunchy.
DS wants to do dolphins for our next animal.
We did an entire week of math a couple of days ago. I'm going to let that rest in there for awhile and then do more in a couple of days.

That Stonehendge Decoded movie was AWESOME!! It's only a couple of years old so the research is very fresh and very, very different from what I learned just a few years ago.
And I never really thought about how metal changed the world.

I just plain love this. I'm learning as much as the kids are - if not more!!! (I didn't fall asleep an hour into the DVD. )
post #166 of 211
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We are slowly getting our Monday going - even though I was up by 8:30 and ready to go by 9am. Oh well ... we'll get there eventually.

I wanted to pass on a link for those using Minimus. Minimus Mini-Books. It's a set of 10 readers based on the Vindolanda family using mostly all the vocabulary from Minimus (and each has a glossary for new vocabulary). They do US orders (I just emailed one of the authors and they emailed me back a PayPal invoice. We love Minimus around here (it's an awesome supplement to Latin for Children) and now am excited to have more resources to use for reading and translating for the rest of the year.

Happy Monday to all ... field trips sound a fun, but exhausting!
post #167 of 211
MLW, we are going to start with SSL - I swear!
But do have graduated beyond that to Minimus, right? Or are you doing a few Latin programs together?

My history buddy brought me REAL science to look at today. Darn her!!!!
We're adding that in the next couple of weeks. I cannot resist something so well done.

We went to the little library today. And they solved my book problem (the 40 book limit). If you can sign your name, you can get a library card! So the kids each have one now. I can now check out 120 items. They looked at our account and laughed. Last week, we checked out and/or returned 68 items. The only 2 things that I've returned without reading were two books for me that I want to read but I'm just not in the mood to do classics right now (Pearl S. Buck). I want fantasy and socerers and such right now. It must be the pull of the new Harry Potter movie coming soon...

I do tend to get fantasy-ish in the fall though. I like to tackle books like Paradise Lost in the winter, at night by myself.

But every single kid book, even if we didn't "read" it cover to cover, we looked at the pictures. So we went through 66 books in one darn week.
The librarian who helped me homeschooled her three kids all the way though too.
That's how she knew what we've been doing. Special blessings to homeschooling librarians...
She also commented that there wasn't one "junk" book in her pile and how nice that was for her today. I guess Barbie and Start Wars readers were flying out the door today. I get it. We've talked about that here. By all means, read what you love too but it's kind of sad that the classic kids' stuff like Grimm's Fairy Tales and Charlotte's Web are sitting there all lonely on the shelves. (And we have been known to check out junk too!! The kids were too busy exploring the new environment today to pick any books.)

I'm just so excited. Can you imagine getting snowed in this winter with 120 books around us, in additon to our own bookcases?? I could just swoon now...
post #168 of 211
Thanks for the great classical languages links, MLW!

Jennifer, I may have missed this upthread, but what are you using as a guide for science? Sounds like you're really enjoying it

I am thinking about the REAL Science Odyssey materials myself. We have Real Science For Kids, but the experiments are . . . well, rather artificial and constructed feeling, to me at least. Maybe they get better in the later levels. The books are great though.

I'm re-vamping. I love that filing crate system. I may try and tackle that. I know how much I want to do on our core stuff every week, but the Sci/Hist stuff gets left behind, and I can identify with a lot of what that hs mom was saying on her website about getting caught up in perfectionism and needing to do every page and then getting way behind because of it. I'm trying to let go of that a little.

Today I am CRANKY! I think I pulled my lower back out with too much bw-ing. DD7 is just really needy right now. There are three big flats of fruit that need canning, and I am behind on work for both my wahm jobs . At least DS8wk is starting to play himself to sleep which is nice. My back really hurts from holding him so much!!

My hub will be out of town next week and I'm kind of looking forward to it He's been home with us since the little one arrived, and our routine has totally been out of whack!

We still don't have everything put away from the move, and I can't find hs materials that we need right now. Very frustrating.

On positive notes: dd is amazing! She is really settling in so well with her core work. I'm surprised how smoothly that's going to tell you the truth. I have everything planned out with Latin, Greek, Miquon, Singapore, phonics, and reading for the year. Just need to get the "electives" in. The pace we have going for those is just right

I think we will be signing her up for an outside art class, just for fun and also it's during the day, so I believe it's mainly other hs-ers.
post #169 of 211
Craft, we're doing science a'la WTM. So we're doing random picking of topics and we're doing first and second grade at the same time. The kids love the randomness of it and I think I will continue doing that too but I like the idea of the REAL science bringing it all together, KWIM?
post #170 of 211
And I'm so glad things are smoothing out for you, Craft. We knew you could do it!!
post #171 of 211
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Jennifer - yes, we are now doing Latin for Children A along with Minimus. I had bought Minimus to use last year with Song School Latin but never really picked it up after the first couple chapters even though we liked it. So, this year when I was putting some books away I saw Minimus sitting on the shelf neglected and picked it up again. The boys and I really like it - the little comic-like stories are cute and it's really reinforcing what we are learning in LfC A right now. I was quite excited when I saw they had mini-books too.

And oh my goodness, that's a lot of books! Though, usually we have about that many checked out as well (our library used to not issue cards until the kids could write their own name, but then our city or someone had a big push for library card carriers, so they now allow kids of all ages get cards - we have 5 cards in our family, but can only check out 20 at a time). We have not been to the library as a family in quite a few weeks though, so our current number out is down to about 10 or so. Maybe this week I'll have the energy to take the kids on Friday, or we will take them with dh on Saturday.

My mom said she's going to come and "substitute" teach for me when the baby is born. Dh is planning one week home, but he'll still have at least one week teaching before Christmas/New Years break hits, and I wasn't quite sure how all that was going to play out ... but Gramma is going to come help (she's only a couple miles away from us and is already over here at least once a week). The boys are quite excited about Gramma teaching them, so I really need to get my maternity leave plans written.
post #172 of 211
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And I'm so glad things are smoothing out for you, Craft. We knew you could do it!!
Thanks

It's due to all of the great inspiration on this thread


re: Minumus

We have it set aside for next year. Do you think it could be a stand-alone program for Latin? We are going to continue more seriously with Hey Andrew....Greek and maybe SSG next year, too, so I don't want to overdo it.

Honestly, I feel a lot more comfortable with the Greek 'coz I took some course work and really enjoyed it in college (we used the Athenaze book recommended in LCC, it's great!)---it's really not too intimidating once you learn all the sounds the letters make. Greek may become our more emphasized language. I took Latin in high school but remember none of it; I'm learning along with dd this year.


About AAS-- if you've used it, how fast did you go through the lessons? I am trying to plan out the year, and I'd like to get through the first two levels. Is 1-2 steps per week about right? Or is that kind of slow? We will go at dd's pace, I just am trying to figure out a ballpark idea of how long it will take us. We are through Step 4 in Level 1, and it seems pretty easy for her so far, though she still struggles with any writing (just doesn't have much writing stamina yet).
post #173 of 211
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Thanks

It's due to all of the great inspiration on this thread


re: Minumus

We have it set aside for next year. Do you think it could be a stand-alone program for Latin? We are going to continue more seriously with Hey Andrew....Greek and maybe SSG next year, too, so I don't want to overdo it.

Honestly, I feel a lot more comfortable with the Greek 'coz I took some course work and really enjoyed it in college (we used the Athenaze book recommended in LCC, it's great!)---it's really not too intimidating once you learn all the sounds the letters make. Greek may become our more emphasized language. I took Latin in high school but remember none of it; I'm learning along with dd this year.


About AAS-- if you've used it, how fast did you go through the lessons? I am trying to plan out the year, and I'd like to get through the first two levels. Is 1-2 steps per week about right? Or is that kind of slow? We will go at dd's pace, I just am trying to figure out a ballpark idea of how long it will take us. We are through Step 4 in Level 1, and it seems pretty easy for her so far, though she still struggles with any writing (just doesn't have much writing stamina yet).
For us, Minimus is a better supplement; then again, I did not buy the teacher's manual. It has some short grammar lessons, which we enjoy, but it is not nearly as in-depth as something like Latin for Children. If you want something that will continue to introduce Latin while being able to focus mostly on Greek, you could try Minimus along with either Getting Started with Latin or A Latin Primer (also available for purchase from Amazon).

As far as AAS, we do about 2-3 steps a week. Some lessons are fast and the kids get them quickly. Sometimes we slow down a little and/or the lesson has enough extra words to keep us practicing. For the most part it has worked well, though I can tell that we need to stop and do some review every now and then to revisit words/rules that we did a while ago (I'm just shuffling the word cards from all the previous lessons that both ds#1 and ds#2 have completed for additional review right now). I'm thinking once we restart their current books, I may slow down to 2 lessons a week (one on M/T and one on W/Th, and then maybe do some quick dictation sentences only on Fridays). The rules are getting a bit more complex (ds#1 is in level 5 and ds#2 is in level 4), and I think we need to slow it a bit right now. But, I do love how the dictation sentences have so much built-in review to keep things fresh.
post #174 of 211
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DS wants to do dolphins for our next animal.
We did an entire week of math a couple of days ago. I'm going to let that rest in there for awhile and then do more in a couple of days.

That Stonehendge Decoded movie was AWESOME!! -------------------
I just plain love this. I'm learning as much as the kids are - if not more!!!
I LOVE learning with the kids as well!!! We are kind of conservative here(also kind of hippies as well) but anyway people assume that we homeschool due to religious reasons or such. However, a HUGE factor for us was we wanted learning to be fun. We wanted the kids to be able to explore interests and learn in unconventional ways, have their hands in the middle of something and go at their own speed. I will be excited when ds is reading on his own and then can start exploring more.
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I wanted to pass on a link for those using Minimus. Minimus Mini-Books
Happy Monday to all ... field trips sound a fun, but exhausting!
Thanks for the tip, will have to keep that in mind for next year!

I think you are excused from field trips
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My history buddy brought me REAL science to look at today. Darn her!!!!
We're adding that in the next couple of weeks. I cannot resist something so well done.

We went to the little library today.

She also commented that there wasn't one "junk" book in her pile and how nice that was for her today.
WE can check out 50 per person here and ds and I have cards. You have to be 4 for a card. However, I figured out last year 50 is about my limit to carry w/ also carrying a baby and getting the 3yo and 6yo across the parking lot! I built up our personal collection a lot this summer as well and we are reading longer books as well now, so it evens out.

I like to read more in the winter as well. Haven't done much this summer- other than what I read to the kids and hs research!
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I am thinking about the REAL Science Odyssey materials myself. We have Real Science For Kids, but the experiments are . . . well, rather artificial and constructed feeling, to me at leas
I'm re-vamping. I love that filing crate system.

Today I am CRANKY! I think I pulled my lower back out with too much bw-ing.
We still don't have everything put away from the move, and I can't find hs materials that we need right now. Very frustrating.

On positive notes: dd is amazing! She is really settling in so well with her core work.
I think we will be signing her up for an outside art class, just for fun and also it's during the day, so I believe it's mainly other hs-ers.
I had looked into the REAL science and RS4K. We are using BFSU currently. However, I got the same impression of RS4K. I like the look of REAL though. But I have decided to stick with what we are doing. We are studying the natural world through Nature Study and that is absolutely wonderful. More science stuff through using BFSU as a loose guide with some Bill Nye and Magic School Bus and various other resources as well. There really are lots of suggestions for activities built in to it. Next year we will reevaluate.

That stinks about the baby being clingy- but yeah she is passing through that stage! I would say that is great you are doing all you are as she is so young. The art class sounds fun! I want to do that too! The only one I know locally is for 7+.

I am looking into more organization as well. I made a schedule 'thingy' which has been good with keeping me on track but I need more places to file papers. I have gotten everything completed for our school year thus far it just seems some things are harder than others.

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My mom said she's going to come and "substitute" teach for me when the baby is born.
That is too cool! I bet the kids and you will enjoy that!

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As far as AAS, we do about 2-3 steps a week. Some lessons are fast and the kids get them quickly. Sometimes we slow down a little and/or the lesson has enough extra words to keep us practicing. ation sentences only on Fridays).
Thanks for the thoughts here. We aren't up to needing a spelling program yet but I am really undecided how OG based I need to go. I was considering Apples and Pears.


Well, I have decided to revamp history. I had talked last week about doing Native Americans we just didn't get around to it but w/ some great resources online I have everything set up now for a 4-6 wk unit study. I love the ideas of unit study but didn't end up doing it that way for whatever reason I felt I should do it more w/ a spine and all of that. However, I am letting go of that and doing it how I want. The say all hs'ers make some mistakes, thankfully mine haven't been too expensive yet.

I did shortly ponder buying a new Science program as well but as I said up post have decided against. My problem is finding the right words to explain things, therefore I wanted something more scripted. However, I think I will use the basic ideas and let others do the talking for me(ie w/ book and video supplements on his level). Plus, a revamping of when things are scheduled is helping as well.

Today is the Apple Orchard visit. I am also looking into scheduling a visit to the (local) dinosaur museum for next month- I think the kids will get a kick out of that and we don't have any big trip planned then.
post #175 of 211
MLW, I've looked at Minimus on amazon and it looks CUTE!! I need to get SSL under my belt though first. There is just so much GOOD stuff out there right now!!

We started out the day doing the readers by the kids and then read some Halloween books and books on the rainforest. DS has to finish up his history and then we can move on to Crete tomorrow or Thursday.

Our library lets kids have a card as soon as they can sign their name. And the little library was very generous on what a signature is.
The bigger library would have been fussier but that mama gets it. But we read 4 books this morning and we'll probably ready 4 or more throughout the day. A 40 book limit was driving me nuts.

The other thing my friend and I are doing is "rescuing" old library books on Amazon. I don't know if you have noticed this around you, but we are noticing that a lot of the more classical-ish books for kids about history especially are disappearing from the shelves. I can go entire WEEKS without being able to find one supplemental book to History Odyssey in our library system. I get why it's happening - libraries have to stock what people will read and help us but Strawberry Shortcake and Iron Man seem to have it all right now... It sill makes us sad. So we're book rescuers!
post #176 of 211
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She also commented that there wasn't one "junk" book in her pile and how nice that was for her today. I guess Barbie and Start Wars readers were flying out the door today. I get it. We've talked about that here. By all means, read what you love too but it's kind of sad that the classic kids' stuff like Grimm's Fairy Tales and Charlotte's Web are sitting there all lonely on the shelves. (And we have been known to check out junk too!! The kids were too busy exploring the new environment today to pick any books.)

I'm just so excited. Can you imagine getting snowed in this winter with 120 books around us, in additon to our own bookcases?? I could just swoon now...
I thought of our conservations re: good books vs junk books

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...tter#printMode

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Most importantly, a boy raised on great literature is more likely to grow up to think, to speak, and to write like a civilized man. Whom would you prefer to have shaped the boyhood imagination of your daughter's husband—Raymond Bean or Robert Louis Stevenson?

I offer a final piece of evidence that is perhaps unanswerable: There is no literacy gap between home-schooled boys and girls. How many of these families, do you suppose, have thrown grossology parties
post #177 of 211
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The other thing my friend and I are doing is "rescuing" old library books on Amazon. I don't know if you have noticed this around you, but we are noticing that a lot of the more classical-ish books for kids about history especially are disappearing from the shelves. I can go entire WEEKS without being able to find one supplemental book to History Odyssey in our library system. I get why it's happening - libraries have to stock what people will read and help us but Strawberry Shortcake and Iron Man seem to have it all right now... It sill makes us sad. So we're book rescuers!
I totally agree -- it is so hard to find good stuff on the shelves, so much of it is 'tv books" --

talk more about this!!
post #178 of 211
Holy cow, that's a GOOD article!!!

I've been wtaching this in my own kids. I introduced them to Webkinz. DD thinks it's cute but wanders off after a few minutes. I left DS to his own devices today and he spent 2 HOURS on the computer. Something about electronic crap pulls him.

I am divided on it slightly. DS is not that great with physical stuff (he has had a formal autism dx) and he has figured out how to manipulate the mouse like a baby genius. He's gaining quite a bit of confidence. But he can throw tantrums if I take him off the computer. Wow.

So tomorrow will be a no computer day. And probably the day after that. I do wonder who many of our boys we are shortchanging by having so much electronic crap in our lives.
post #179 of 211
I'm sick of the rain and in a grouchy mood. I am so glad that we went with the file crate system, because I know that if we hadn't I would have skipped school today because I feel so darn crabby. Instead, we accomplished everything I had planned and my mood began to improve. At least, the mood was improving until the sinus headache overtook me.

Rain, rain.....GO AWAY! I want to do lots of nature study tomorrow, but being out in the cold rain isn't going to be any fun. Nature documentaries just aren't the same as seeing it all up close, but if you don't stay away we may have to tune in to one instead of exploring the great outdoors.

I love the book rescuers title! : I like to buy ex-library books from Amazon, so I guess I'm a book rescuer, too.
post #180 of 211
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It's been cold and rainy for us too, but today my mood was much better (yesterday found a dreary day and a house full of grumps, myself included!). We watched the second episode of Greeks: Crucible of Civilization off of Netflix for history (instead of reading more from CHOTW - I have a love/hate relationship with that book). We all enjoyed it - it covered the Greek/Persian war and also the rise of Pericles and Greek civilization.

In MCT, we've been learning about the use of subject pronouns versus object pronouns and how that relates to using action verbs with direct objects/indirect objects versus linking verbs with subject complements. So, after parsing our sentence today which contained an object pronoun, we did a few more examples of common mistakes (which is correct: I am he. or I am him. or Mom and I went shopping. vs. Mom and me went shopping.) to drive home the idea of using the correct pronoun based on the part of the sentence. I'm not expecting mastery by any means, but they are starting to get it. So, after our discussion, ds#2 commented on how even though "I am he" is correct it doesn't sound correct, and we talked about how many people now do not even realize "I am him" is incorrect because it's just not taught anymore. So, he said, "Why don't we call up the school and tell them to teach it." Oh, if it were that easy.
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