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post #81 of 211
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For those doing SSL when do you do it? How long does it take? I plan to start it in 2 weeks but want an idea of when to schedule it.
When we did SSL last year, I did a chapter a week. Monday was vocabulary and singing (we also reviewed all the old songs as we went); Tuesday was a page from the workbook, as was Wednesday; if there were not any other pages from the book (IIRC, there were usually two?), sometimes I made something online or had them draw the vocabulary and label it in Latin & English; and Friday was Monkey Match memory.

In terms of scheduling, Latin was always first in the day. I meant to keep that up this year, but I've switched it around (and will probably put it back to first thing).
post #82 of 211
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One thing I haven't been happy with is what we are doing for handwriting, so I am looking for a more directed program. We want to do cursive rather than printing, and DD is 5 - does anyone have any recommendations?
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We are waiting on Cursive First to arrive, and once we start using it, I'll let you know how we like it or not. I am probably going to get that HWOT Contracted edition just for extra to have around, too---I know the actual style of lettering is different, but the idea is just for her to get how to form the letters, and then I'm sure she'll develop her own style anyways.

FWIW, I've heard that the HWOT one is really great for helping the kids "get" how to form the cursive letter.
We have used (and are using) the cursive book from Handwriting w/out Tears and I really like it. The letters are more plain, but I think in the long run, it is easier for the kids to learn. Ds#1 started learning cursive about half way through 2nd grade (7 1/2 years old). Ds#2 just started (technically 2nd grade, but not 7 yet - he's one of the youngest in his "class"). It is a great program (from my experience only) in terms of helping the kids "see" how the letters are formed and having them make sense. I like how it groups letters together - first with the "magic" c and then things like "u", "i" and then "j" - one letter seems to sprout from the previous letter. I would think as long as a child has a decent mastery of fine motor skills, the cursive book would work for a younger child (the lines are small, but not tiny). Plus, you could order their bigger paper (maybe the 1st grade paper) and have your dd write the cursive practice words on the bigger lines instead of in the book, and then re-use the book as she gets better with smaller lines. Anyway, just my two cents. I am very pleased with the program (and we only use the student book - I do not buy the teacher's books or other materials). Ds#1 has very nice printing and handwriting, and I can see that ds#2 (who has very nice printing, at least when he feels like it !) will also have very nice cursive.
post #83 of 211
Thanks for the thoughts on the Latin and scheduling. I just plan on doing one chapter a week. I guess we will see though. I will have to look again at the monkey match cards- I don't want to promote sight words though- does anyone think that would do that??

craft_media_hero- Do you visit WTM? Lots of good ladies on there that have excellent info about Reading disabilities- struggles, teaching etc. Especially Elizabeth B. and Shay- Elizabeth has her own reading site w/ lots of information especially in regards to learning phonics and not guessing.
http://www.thephonicspage.org/index.html

We use the I See Sam readers and it is really, really working well. It is a very slow and steady pace. It is not glamorous at all but he is suceeding and learning. He is not memorizing site words- he did try to guess a ton at first but it breaks them of that of the most part. He still tries sometimes but then we just go back over it and he sounds it out.
post #84 of 211
I am interested to read about the cursive as well. At ds current rate he will be through his Printing Power book by Thanksgiving. He is doing soooo well with writing these days. I haven't even looked at what we should do next.
post #85 of 211
You guys have such needs ideas for doing things. I feel like I am lacking in creativity dept here. I want to keep a good and decent schedule and make things more interesting. I need to do more prepping for hands-on activities I guess.
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You guys have such needs ideas for doing things. I feel like I am lacking in creativity dept here. I want to keep a good and decent schedule and make things more interesting. I need to do more prepping for hands-on activities I guess.
I had to work at this. Last year we didn't get to as many fun things because I was never prepared. This year I'm doing the file crate system and I went through our curriculum and made index card shopping lists of any supplies I need for the next week. That way I always have the supplies we need on hand. If I find myself with a free hour, I gather supplies for activities, experiments, etc and put them in bags so we're all ready to do one with little to no prep. So far, 6 weeks into the year, we've gotten to every fun activity that I had planned except for one! That's a huge inprovement over last year!
post #87 of 211
I guess that is the problem I haven't put a lot of fun activities into my plan. I am getting to everything on my plan but I just need to plan more! I have been using my break time to prepare for my projects as well. As I said we generally do 1 project a day. But the projects I do have planned I am not as exciting as what you guys are doing and my other lessons are pretty plan jane. Although, thinking I am trying to figure where I can add excitement. I don't know- handwriting is fine, Math we already do games. I need to add in some stuff for history though, got to get a map! Religion is mostly just reading and narration- need to look at that more. Nature Study is great, but Science well- I need to put more into the projects we have only been half-way been doing them. I need to put more prep time into that than I do. I did read up on that last night but really I need to do that prep on the weekend to do it as fully as I want.

I guess really it is more just a few subjects I think I could add some enrichment to- we are getting basic ideas and thoughts and some projects just nothing that is knock their socks off cool. I need to work on my delivery as well!
post #88 of 211
We're going to have a 'free day Friday'. We'll make popcorn and watch 2 episodes of Before the Dinosaurs- Walking With Monsters on Netflix, aside from that a free day! This will help me get caught up on housework before the weekend too, lol. I need to make a grocery list and pull some food out of the deep freezer. Oh, oh, and I can knit during the show! I started a pair of longies (non nappy because she only wears a dipe at night) for dd 2. Um, yeah, I hadn't knit since before the move way back in March. I was following a pattern carefully (I usually end up changing them) and somehow they are so high waisted I'm going to have to turn them into overalls, lol. Dd 10 wants to make more clothespin dolls this weekend. I'm looking forward to that! Happy weekend everyone!
post #89 of 211
I am going to have to check out those clothespin dolls, that sounds like fun.

Found a project to go w/ history this week. Looking to maybe change around my schedule there, history has been my biggest struggle. Need to think on this more. I was going to study Native Americans when we came to Pocahontas but think we will add an intro to Native Americans after Columbus this week and do that for a few weeks or so. I think we will end up doing fewer subjects/people but going more in depth. Focusing on projects more instead of reading which will be more suited to their level.
post #90 of 211
We got back into the groove today!! We've had a couple of weeks off because DH and I were working on grown up stuff.

The kids BEGGED for history today so we sat down and did almost an entire week's worth of history. We'll be leaving Egypt for a few weeks to work on the ancient Indus Valley and Stonehenge.

Instead of making a pyramid from sugar cubes (Been there. Done that with the ziggaruts.). The kids made a foam pyramid with Daddy today. It's the first time I've ever seen them do a project with Dad. I had to leave the room because I was laughing every once in awhile.

I'm still waiting fo SSL to show up.

I love reading what everyone else is working on.
post #91 of 211
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We got back into the groove today!! We've had a couple of weeks off because DH and I were working on grown up stuff.

The kids BEGGED for history today so we sat down and did almost an entire week's worth of history. We'll be leaving Egypt for a few weeks to work on the ancient Indus Valley and Stonehenge.

Instead of making a pyramid from sugar cubes (Been there. Done that with the ziggaruts.). The kids made a foam pyramid with Daddy today. It's the first time I've ever seen them do a project with Dad. I had to leave the room because I was laughing every once in awhile.

I'm still waiting fo SSL to show up.

I love reading what everyone else is working on.
We did a Lego pyramid. Now he wants to either buy the playmobil pyramid [boucoups bucks] or build a more complex Lego one with burial chambers and traps. Oy!
post #92 of 211
Hello mamas,
I am Charlottle Mason-ish and homeschooling a 6yo. Has anyone read A Child's History of the World and would you recommend it?
Thanks so much!!!
post #93 of 211
Oh, the pyramid projects sound so cool! I cannot wait to be doing that kind of stuff.

newcastlemama- I haven't read CHOW, my friend says her and her son love it. It has some evolution in the first few chapters which they didn't agree with but they skipped that(not sure how in depth it goes or what it says but I believe that they are young earthers- but they found it easy enough to skip- if that is also your persausion). Anyway, check on Well-Trained Mind as well as I have seen reviews and threads on it as well. It is on my list of books to buy.
post #94 of 211
crunchymama, thanks for the tips!

re: Cursive-
We are going to get the workbook(s) but probably also a moveable wooden alphabet and/or sandpaper letters, too. I figure the more senses we use while learning something, the better.

So that should be fun.

Today I set up a felt wall play area (I know, dd is a little "old" for that ), but it will be fun, and I'm planning on using it as supplemental to our other subjects, like cut out anatomy parts and body, etc. Also maybe people cut outs, food, etc. and use to reinforce Latin vocab. Fun times!!

Plus, the younger kids who come over will like it, too.

Ugh. I should be wahming while the baby is sleeping . . .



Here's a ?

What are you all reading or planning to read for literature this year?

We are still reading fairy tales, our all-time favorites forever. Right now "The World's Greaterst Fairy Tales" Reader's Digest collection (recommended ala LCE) is our fav source book.

We're bouncing between that and the Little House series for our long-term read-aloud-ers.

On order (I think we get to pick up Mon. or Wed. !!!) from Yesterday's Classics are Robin Hood, King Arthur, the Lamb's Shakespeare adaptation, and a whole bunch of the Odyssey/Aeneid/Iliad/etc. for Boys and Girls, and Gods and Heroes for a mythology collection. So we'll start digging into those when they arrive.

We also have a pretty dang good illustrated Aesop's Fables collection that I keep meaning to pull out and cross-ref. with Latin, ie learn the animal's names, re-enact with finger puppets using Latin vocab. (like the tortoise and the hare play in SSL).

Dd's reading- going better, I think? Actually, we only started "school" back a couple of weeks ago, and she is about halfway through Phonics Pathways and 2/3 through the 1st G Little Critter Spectrum book. So she's actually moving through it quickly and going through 2-3 lessons/day at her own pace. I'm just hoping the fluency will "click" soon.

I think we need to work on visual discrimination techniques . . .

Oh here, this is weird---she flipped to the back of PP book and starts sounding out "understandable" "unavailable" "preconceived" "undeniable" and such multi-syllabic words easily. But that same day "code" had her hung up (she kept saying "cold"). What the heck?
post #95 of 211
Newcastle,

CHOTW is a required supplemental book for History Odyssey. I really, really wanted to love it but I don't.
It has this cutesy conversational thing it's trying to do and it annoys the crap out of me. And if you're secular like I am, there are allusions to how great Xtianity is and how much more "advanced" it makes society. I do now read it ahead and then edit it for my kids because I don't want them even knowing that viewpoint is out there yet.
Yesterday's reading had this crazy paragraph that went like this:

"...Although they are yellow and dried up, they still look like:

Little old men
All skin and bones.


Now if that's from a poem, the poem itself isn't cited. And if it isn't a poem, WHY WHY WHY?

I stumbled while I read it out loud because I didn't understand why it was all set alone and italicisized when it's kind of a dumb sentence.

It is more childish than SOTW. I would expect that from a book first published in the 1920s though. So the gentleness could be a benefit for your family. It bores my kids and it bores me and I keep wondering when I'm going to read about savages...
post #96 of 211
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Newcastle,

CHOTW is a required supplemental book for History Odyssey. I really, really wanted to love it but I don't.
It has this cutesy conversational thing it's trying to do and it annoys the crap out of me. And if you're secular like I am, there are allusions to how great Xtianity is and how much more "advanced" it makes society. I do now read it ahead and then edit it for my kids because I don't want them even knowing that viewpoint is out there yet.
Yesterday's reading had this crazy paragraph that went like this:

"...Although they are yellow and dried up, they still look like:

Little old men
All skin and bones.


Now if that's from a poem, the poem itself isn't cited. And if it isn't a poem, WHY WHY WHY?

I stumbled while I read it out loud because I didn't understand why it was all set alone and italicisized when it's kind of a dumb sentence.

It is more childish than SOTW. I would expect that from a book first published in the 1920s though. So the gentleness could be a benefit for your family. It bores my kids and it bores me and I keep wondering when I'm going to read about savages...
Makes me think of the song about the "old woman, all skin and bones".
post #97 of 211
Thanks for the CHOTW reviews
post #98 of 211
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We use CHOTW with History Odyssey, but some weeks I skip it just because I don't feel like reading it. My boys don't mind it and at least thus far the chapters I have read haven't been too obnoxious, but we haven't read all the ones assigned in HO.

For us, we just did our first lesson from IEW's All Things Fun & Fascinating today. I don't think I like the program enough to pay for the whole thing (either the teacher program or the student intensive). Plus, I'm holding out that SWB will publish Writing with Skill for 5th grade by next fall. But, I also wanted something to break up the monotony that I feel sometimes with WWE (level 4 and level 2), and wanted to find something somewhat gentle that I could use with both ds#1 and ds#2. ATF&F seemed to fit the bill.

The boys really enjoyed it today. I had ds#1 read the paragraph to us, and then I had them highlight all sentence-ending punctuation (mostly periods but there was one question mark). Then, they took turns reading one sentence and we'd decide on three key words. They were very excited when I introduced the idea of using some symbols in lieu of words. We only used a few for the whole thing, but we were creative for the longer sentences. After we did the whole Key Word Outline, they practiced recreating the sentences based on their outline and did a very good job. I left our outline on the board so we can practice for dh when he gets home. (They also wrote their own.)

Tomorrow I'll have each of them narrate the original paragraph back to me in their own words based on their KWO, and then they can illustrate it. Wednesday and Thursday will follow the same pattern with the next paragraph in the book. Then we'll go back to WWE, but I plan on practicing KWO in history or science for a couple weeks before moving on to the next lesson in ATF&F. It will probably take longer to get through ATF&F, but I don't want to give up WWE and see the IEW materials as supplemental for now.
post #99 of 211
You're welcome, New!

MLW, it makes me smile to read what you're doing since you're a full cycle ahead of us. It feels like we'll never be that advanced!!

We finished making our Nile River from construction paper today.

We did history and math today. I could not get them to stop on the math. They spend 50 minutes doing page and page even when they clearly were DONE. Ack.
Loved their enthusiasm! Hated the whining at the end.
It's not like I put a timer on the math or anything...
post #100 of 211
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MLW, it makes me smile to read what you're doing since you're a full cycle ahead of us. It feels like we'll never be that advanced!!
I remember that feeling - I never thought we'd get to the point where we are now. Sometimes I don't know how we got to this point though. It's like they (ds#1 and ds#2) woke up one morning and suddenly could read and write somewhat coherently and do bigger math problems. Suddenly they are reading everything (it was a long road to get ds#1 to this point; ds#2 actually is reading above his grade level).
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We finished making our Nile River from construction paper today.

We did history and math today. I could not get them to stop on the math. They spend 50 minutes doing page and page even when they clearly were DONE. Ack.
Loved their enthusiasm! Hated the whining at the end.
It's not like I put a timer on the math or anything...
Mine have done that ... wanted to keep going and going and then at the end acting almost mad at me for "making" them do it when in fact I wanted them to stop many pages previously.
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