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post #1 of 9
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Xposted in learning in school....but really would love some homeschool mama's to respond too.

We are living in Mexico and have found...what we thought was the best private school in town. They teach 1/2 days english/spanish. My son is almost fluent in spanish, native tongue is english. He is 5 and will turn 6 in November. He has never been to school, no pre-school. Just at home with me since day one. He has also been shy to doing any type of writing here at home. I've bought several homeschool books and done all kind of activities to help him learn how to write his letters. He has almost mastered his name. He is also left handed.
So we enroll him at this Private school and they test him. place him in K-5 which they tell me is the same as Kindergarten in the US. Now 2 weeks into school my son is crying not wanting to go, he says the work is to hard, he cant do it. He's been sent home with 5-6 books some days and has 30-50 min of homework ..and this is kindergarten. One of the books was cursive, and he's not even writing in print but they have a cursive book?
I went in for a meeting today with the direction of education and some other lady and they told me that here in Mexico children start school at age 3 and by the time they get into k-5 they already know how to print and write. Well my son is really struggling as this is all NEW to him. They want to put my son in k-4 which would mean he would be in a class with 4yo's and he is a older 5-almost 6yo. I dont know how i feel about this. They also said that the teacher doesnt make modifications to help individual children along. That the child either get's it or doesnt. They do offer a helper 2 times a week to catch the children up and also suggest a after school tutor to help him catch up. They said they dont have many children require help as they have been in school since they were 3yo.
Now...this goes against every thing that i believe in. I know that children learn best through play and to be in school from 3yo-18yo...is just to much...children need to play to learn in the early years. I just think that much school can squash an imagination.
I'm at a loss.....when i first signed him up they said that if a child is behind that they have a special teacher who would come to the class and help catch him up. Well sounds like the tune has changed quite a bit.
Any thoughts?
I am really thinking about homeschooling him...however he resist doing any work here at home.
post #2 of 9
Look, one way or the other you are going to be home schooling him. You are either going to be helping with his homework and catching him up intensively, or you are going to pull him out of school. If you believe in school, catch him up. If you believe in less intense / more child led academics, pull him. This intense kindergarten crap does not lead to a more vigorous set of PhD candidates in 22 years. If you need him in school for your family, or because you think it's important for him to experience that, that's your parenting decision.

Maybe what he really needs is some vision therapy or physical therapy, occupational therapy. Whatever it's called. One of my friend's sons had really crappy handwriting and he went to OT and got better dramatically. Apparently his freestyle improved dramatically also (swim team).

I wouldn't ride him hard until you've ruled out the above. Also, consider coming into the school yourself or hiring someone to come there and tutor him for part of the school day, preferably in the morning. There's no reason to be home schooling him at or after 4pm. If I did that, my kids would resist lessons too.
post #3 of 9
The reason private schools can say they don't have kids who struggle is that they are selective about who they accept. This made me laugh, though, because I grew up in Mexico City. When I was that age, I was at Greengates, a British school, where I was taught to print in a way that was just like cursive but without connecting the letters. But in second grade I transferrred to the American School where they refused to allow me to write the way I had learned and forced me to re-learn my letters and write them huge, on the triple-lined paper they preferred. Only to have to re-learn cursive the next year. Now they're teaching kindergarteners cursive?! That sound like someone thinks(and the parents have bought it) that this is a method for making kids more advanced or something. But it's not. I think I would find a different school that was more focused on letting kindergarteners play and ease gently into writing. Are there any Montessori schools near you? Either that or homeschool. Your child sounds absolutely normal for his age! Remember that in many of the countries that are considered to have "superior" education (Luke Sweden and Norway) kids do not even start academic school until age 7.

Just curious: is homeschooling something that is done in Mexico? I had heard that it's illegal there, but I know that In Mexico that doesn't always mean it isn't done. DH and I sometimes fantasize about moving there, but not being able to homeschool would be a definite deterrent for us.
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I would say to go with your gut feeling here. If they aren't willing to help a 5 yr old something is wrong. If he starts school with a bad experience then it might be harder to get him to learn anything at school or at home.
post #5 of 9
I actually have looked into the Mexico homeschooling laws (don't ask why lol) and from what I've seen compulsary age is only to 12yo. There is no reporting at all required for Mexican homeschooling, the government has to prove you aren't teaching your kids. So, if he's struggling that much I'd say pull him and hs. Private schools in Mexico (at least in Mexico City) aren't all created equal and the publics are absolutely horrible from what I've heard (I have a friend who is a missionary near Mexico City, he works in the church's school). I'm not entirely certain if the laws for hsing in Mexico is like it is here in the US, different in every state, but from what I've seen its incredibly easy to hs.

I hope you find peace with whatever decision you make in this, whether it is to keep him in the school and do a LOT of catching up work every day or to pull him and teach him yourself. Either way, you have a difficult path ahead of you (I did that play catch-up game with my oldest while she was in US public K because they wouldn't help her before pulling her to hs, I think the catch-up game is harder than just straight up hsing but it is still very difficult)
post #6 of 9
Op, I don't have any great advice for you, but I wanted to pop in as another American living in Mexico. The school system here is just so different from what we're used to in the states. I'm homeschooling my kids, but I considered sending my youngest to preschool (it would have been k3 or k4)last year, but everything seemed so academic focused that I decided not to. That said, I've heard that there's a huge difference in types of private schools here. I've heard there are even Waldorf schools in some parts of Mexico (I'm not sure if there's one near me or near where you live, but I know they exist down here) and if you could find something like that, it would probably be perfect. The public school system is really hit or miss here. I've heard really good things from neighbors about the primaria (public) a couple of blocks away, and the man who helped us find our rental here said his public school experience was great (and he left speaking fluent English and able to go to a US University and do business in the states). I would imagine you've already checked with neighbors to see their opinions on your local primaria? If people have objections to it, find out what they are. A lot of objections I've heard about some public schools is that they aren't academically rigorous enough, and that if you want your child to get "ahead" and "work hard," you need to send them to private school. If those are the objections to your local school, it could actually be a better fit for what you're looking for.

As for homeschooling, as far as I'm able to figure out, there are really no homeschooling regulations. Everyone I've told here that I'm homeschooling thinks I'm wacky, because a "proper" education is so, so important to Mexicans (at least the Mexicans I've spoken with) because it opens so many doors for them. The fact that I could drive my kids to San Diego everyday for school and I choose not to is sort of baffling to people. And, barring that, that I could technically afford a bilingual private school here (though it would still be a strain with three kids), and I STILL don't do it - totally weird and foreign to everyone. So, I would keep that in mind, should you choose to homeschool. I don't know what your situation is - why you're living in Mexico, how far from the states you are, how long you plan to stay, etc. But if you plan to stay and you expect that your son will be attending University in Mexico and potentially working here, at some point getting into the school system is probably a requirement for future success (and I say that as a pretty diehard homeschooler).
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by LauraN;15802611
Just curious: is homeschooling something that is done in Mexico? I had heard that it's illegal there, but I know that In Mexico that doesn't always mean it isn't done. DH and I sometimes fantasize about moving there, but not being able to homeschool would be a definite deterrent for us.
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Laura, I posted above about homeschooling in Mexico. It's definitely possible, but the kids really haven't made any friends here. We live close enough to the border that it isn't really a problem (they have plenty of homeschooled and schooled friends in San Diego), but if we lived further away I'd have to think long and hard about possibly putting them in school. The language barrier (they're learning, but nowhere near fluent) and lack of social opportunities outside school have made it very difficult for them to meet other children for longer than brief encounters at the playground.
post #8 of 9
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this darn computer...i had just typed a long thread and it deleted it all.
We live with in 20min of the Texas border and crossing over everyday for school in the US is not an option either.
Everyone i've talked to says to put him in k-4, however my heart is telling me to homeschool him.
Friends and family are pressuring me to make sure i teach him everything that he would learn in a public school for kinder. I have a friend who's homeschooled her 2 kids here in mexico for the past 4-5 years and says she regrets having homeschooled them. That saddens me to hear that. Her kids are also in the same school my son is in.
I havent sent my son to school since this happened last tuesday.
I have a meting with administration on monday, i'm going to try to get back some of the tuition that we paid.
I'm so nervous on what to do with my son as far as starting homeschool. I want to make sure i'm doing the best thing for him.
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An idea...

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