Originally Posted by chlobo
Start of school stress, so fun.
So middle of last week I realized that DS probably needed to be potty trained for preschool. Hadn't even started. so we are now on a crash course to try and get him trained. But we'll see. We only have a week.
Now, on to a question.
We went to the amusement park yesterday. Kids had a great time. DD loved all the rides. She was way more bold in ride choice at 6 than I was even as a teenager. Anyhow, she did really well at the park, although she fell apart a little at the end when her cousins left without saying goodbye while we were waiting on line for a ride.
Got home, ate & went to bed at a reasonable time.
Fast forward to this morning. She is like a monster. Fighting with her brother, being totally unreasonable. We finally had to separate them by DH dragging her to the store (against her will) & leaving DS home.
What is up with that? Did she deplete some critical body chemical? A stress hormone or something? Any thoughts?
Could be chemicals (see below). But it could also be that she doesn't have the tools to recover from massive overstimulation - she's just gotten mature enough to sometimes wait to the next day to melt down. I'm an introvert - it takes me three days to recover from being at a fair, even though I totally love it while I'm there. My daughter goes to sleepovers and has a fabulous time - and is a fragile drama queen for two days after.
Figuring out what she needs to recenter herself might help - if she's an introvert, it's time alone and quiet, for example. We used to put DD in her room with a video, it worked wonders. Now she reads a book and chooses to retreat to her room when she's out of sorts.
Originally Posted by chlobo
We brought all our food. She was going to have a bite of a cousin's blue cotton candy but they left so she didn't get it.
Ok, on the seratonin thing. I'm reading The Mood Cure and I scored high on 3 out of 4 of the questionnaires. And elevated on the other, just not at high.
Anyhoo, as I'm reading through the seratonin chapter I realize that DD reminds me a lot about myself in a lot of respects so that got me wondering (this was before the mega meltdown).
Can kids really be low in brain chemicals? Should I spring for the amino acid test for her? Or just try supplementing some 5-htp? And can "exciting" but fun events run down their seratonin?
Mamafish, I know you've had the uaa for your son. Do you supplement his aa or is it just a data point for how well he's digesting his proteins?
Kids can be low, and they can also be swingy. My son has genes for swingy serotonin and swingy anxiety related stuff. He gets the serotonin ones from me (MAO+, maternally inherited - don't you have that too? In which case, your daughter very well could).
I did supp amino acids for about a month after his first UAA, but when we started the digestive enzymes and I could see food was digesting so much better, I stopped when the bottle ran out. I figured we'd see where the next UAA was at, and his amino acids were much better. However, he was never wildly low on tyrosine or tryptophan - if either of those had been low I would have supped those (they're the precursors to serotonin & dopamine).
So, back to if your daughter is MAO+ - that tends to cause high serotonin - which has a very strong feedback loop and inhibits serotonin - which causes a swing low. We find that serotonin crashes often come on the heels of lots of excitement (e.g. serotonin highs). We've gotten DS relatively well modulated without using 5htp - Yasko suggests frequent small doses to try to have a leveling effect, but they had the opposite effect for DS, and many kids on the Yasko forums. Ashwaghanda has been really helpful, it's supposed to balance serotonin levels, and I've really liked it for DS. Subtle, but effective (best in at least two doses, rather than just a single daily dose, at least for DS).