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post #21 of 47
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Originally Posted by Anumaria View Post
How beautiful that you have been given the grace to search...

I am not in the US so my perspective is a bit different. I just find it hard to belive that anyone would choose a church due to "smaller parish size, priest knows everyone, etc". Maybe I am misunderstanding, so please forgive me if it is so. I mean isn't the question here what is truth.

I have never been to an Orthodox church in the US but there are more Orthodox than Catholics where I live. I am very surprised to hear the idea that the "difficult" teachings are not found in Orthodoxy. Other than remarriage, what difference is there in questions of moral? (None, as far as I know.) Could it be that the Orthodox churches in the US have become something different and no longer really teach the Orthodox faith? Certainly, as far as I understand, the Orthodox churches do not teach any less than the Catholic Church that sexual acts outside of marriage (whether hetero or homosexual) are sinful. They may be quieter about it but certainly the teaching is still there.
I didn't say that one should make a choice based on parish size, at all. I was suggesting why an Orthodox poster might be more likely to argue that actually attending the DL is an important part of the intellectual apprehension of religious belief - a view that seems to be ubiquitous among that group - compared to a Catholic poster.

As far as hard teachings, the only day to day one that comes to my mind besides divorce is contraception, which isn't categorically quashed to the same extent. However, if people are thinking more theoretically, there are a number of issues not found in Orthodoxy that Catholics are compelled to believe.
post #22 of 47
What does Orthodoxy have to do with the OPs question though?
post #23 of 47
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
What does Orthodoxy have to do with the OPs question though?
Originally, Lilyka, who is Orthodox, made a comment, which I thought reflected a very Orthodox POV, so I tried to expand on that as I understood it (hoping I didn't totally misunderstand Lilyka's point!). That's all. I'm not sure why "hard teachings" came up, that seems to have been a new direction.
post #24 of 47
It has nothing to do with it. rabbit trail.....

as for the hard teachings....contraception has always been an easy one for me even while protestant. As have all the other teachings about sex and marriage. Its one of the reasons I left the protestant church. Its not hard teachings, there are some different doctrinal beliefs between the two. I originally considers Catholocism but there were a few doctrines/teachings I could not wrap my head around, did not percieve as truth, they didn't make sense to me (immaculate conception, papal supremecy, purgatory, original sin) that it turns out were not always understood the way they are now and are not part of Orthodox tradition.

now, back to our regularly scheduled thread....
post #25 of 47
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Originally Posted by cagnew View Post
People sometimes ask my DH about the Church. The first thing he tells them is to look into the teaching on the Eucharist. Read the bible passages supporting it, read the early fathers, the miracles, the documents- all of it. If, in the end, you find that you dn't believe the bread and wine become the real Body and Blood of Christ, then nothing else matters. It is this that is the center of the Catholic Church- without this teaching and this belief, nothing else matters at all- not Mary, not the saints, not confession, not priests, etc.
So true! Great post.
post #26 of 47
The reason I wanted to continue about Orthodoxy is that it is sometimes seen as some sort of light version of Catholicism. As they are not as loud about many things (even if they really do teach them), some people feel drawn there, as they can get valid sacraments but don't need to hear about the "hard stuff." (Which was never hard for me, either, but for many considering conversion, the teaching on contraception, etc. are at first difficult things. Although... considering where we are discussing, the average reader here prob. already knows about nfp, etc.)

Anyway... Yes, you are nuts... and in very good company.
post #27 of 47
Wow, I wouldn't consider it Catholic lite We are actually quite a bit more conservative and traditional on a lot of things. But you are right. We don't have much of a voice in the west like the Catholic church does so most people just don't know our teachings. But we are every bit as firm in our beliefs about birth control, marriage, premarital sex etc as Rome. Those are things that were set in stone from the beginning and neither ancient church has wavered from them (kudos to them both!).
post #28 of 47
Not to mention the fasting!
post #29 of 47
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Originally Posted by Bluegoat View Post
Not to mention the fasting!
Yeah, that's the first thing I think of when people describe Orthodoxy as "easier than Catholicism." Putting aside the marriage/contraception issues, we go essentially vegan for HALF the year. I've known people who refused to convert because they simply couldn't cope with the thought. It does get easier! Great Lent & Holy Week are one long ascetical marathon of fasting and multiple services a week (try *every* day for the first week of Great Lent and Holy Week). No piece o'cake, but it's absolutely my FAVORITE part of the Church Year.

My nominally Catholic coworkers usually do fish on Fridays in Lent, but I find it sad, but somewhat amusing, that many of them complain bitterly about having to have no meat, which is only one day a week (and Ash Wednesday). They always are extremely curious as to what I'm eating, and usually find my vegan Middle Eastern dishes more appealing than their own tuna subs or veggie & cheese pizza.

Sunday Divine Liturgy goes about 90 minutes, whereas my parents (I was raised Catholic) have always griped in a major way if Mass went a second over 60 minutes. The Orthodox also stand, although people can sit if they need to for health reasons. I'm choir, so we're always standing.

Back to the Catholic focus of this thread!
post #30 of 47
Sorry, i really did not mean to get this thread off track. my point is, you are not crazy. People are flocking towards traditional expressions of Christianity for many of the same reasons you are and more. definitely read but also seek guidance from someone who can give you a more personal real life explanation of the doctrines and theologies. (a priest or someone trained to teach this stuff...)
post #31 of 47
OP I'm in the same boat! I CANNOT believe that I want to convert. Honestly, I'm really scared (and happy)
post #32 of 47
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Well ladies, I think I have gotten up my nerve to go to the RCIA class tomorrow evening. I missed the first one (they are every other week) but I will talk to whoever is in charge and ask if I can join in anyway. Wish me luck!
post #33 of 47
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Originally Posted by ursusarctos View Post
Well ladies, I think I have gotten up my nerve to go to the RCIA class tomorrow evening. I missed the first one (they are every other week) but I will talk to whoever is in charge and ask if I can join in anyway. Wish me luck!
post #34 of 47
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Well ladies, I think I have gotten up my nerve to go to the RCIA class tomorrow evening. I missed the first one (they are every other week) but I will talk to whoever is in charge and ask if I can join in anyway. Wish me luck!
Are you really in the country mentioned under your name? If so, you absolutely can go, even though you did not go the first time. Please PM, if you feel like it, I think I could be of some help to you. (There is a mothers' group you could join if you are anywhere near the capital region. Mostly very AP-minded mamas.)
post #35 of 47
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Yes I am, Anumaria! I'm American but I've been living here 6 years. Was wondering actually if you were here based on your username. I will PM!
post #36 of 47
Have you considered Eastern Orthodoxy?
post #37 of 47
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Have you considered Eastern Orthodoxy?
Did you read any of the other replies in this thread before posting?!
post #38 of 47
OP, hope the speaker was someone that did not make you fall asleep.

I kept on thinking about your situation, and had to go study a bit. You might be interested in this link:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=28095

It is apparently not very hard at all to marry even a non-christian in the Church, if both parties so choose.

Anyway.... Good luck on your journey, wherever it takes you!
post #39 of 47
OP, hope the speaker was someone that did not make you fall asleep.

I kept on thinking about your situation, and had to go study a bit. You might be interested in this link:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=28095

It is apparently not very hard at all to marry even a non-Christian in the Church, if both parties so choose. And if both persons have been baptized, no matter what one believes now, it should be even easier. Assuming both were willing to get married in the Church, that is.

Anyway.... Good luck on your journey, wherever it takes you!
post #40 of 47
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Anumaria View Post
OP, hope the speaker was someone that did not make you fall asleep.

I kept on thinking about your situation, and had to go study a bit. You might be interested in this link:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=28095

It is apparently not very hard at all to marry even a non-Christian in the Church, if both parties so choose. And if both persons have been baptized, no matter what one believes now, it should be even easier. Assuming both were willing to get married in the Church, that is.

Anyway.... Good luck on your journey, wherever it takes you!
Thank you!
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