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When is this a problem?

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Not sure if this is the right place, but figured it's about stuff learned at home, so....

My DS is going to be 4 in a month. He is bright, very verbal, very "spirited" and stubborn. He has not shown much interest in things like learning to read, his letters, etc. But-he's only 3, I realize that.

My concern is when it comes to something like counting. We have been doing that for over a year now. Not every day, but counting stuff or just going through numbers 1-10 on a regular basis. He either can't or won't do it. He'll say "1-2-3....what comes after 3?" or "1-2-3-6-" or something along those lines. Then other times he will go 1-10 without a problem. He can't go any higher than 12 at all, even though we have often gone over numbers up to 20.

So our concern is if this indicates a "problem"?? We truly can't tell if he actually CAN'T do this, or if he just doesn't want to. Heck, most times he won't even listen when I read to him...at best only 50% of the time. And I don't require that he sit for it, just that he is not screaming while I am trying to read.

I don't know if we just aren't doing the stuff for him that he needs, or if there is something else going on. (and of course, the inevitable comparisons to our playdate friends who are learning to write, doing math, etc, don't help either-these comparisons are on MY end too, not my friend's-I know every kid is different, but when it's YOUR kid who's not doing stuff....)

Thanks for reading my rambling!
post #2 of 8
I'd be willing to bet that once he gets within a week of turning 4 he'll become pretty slick at remembering what comes after 3. Nothing like being three and then turning four to make it sink in. In other words, once it becomes meaningful to him he'll learn. At this point it's just a rote memory task, almost like memorizing a meaningless string of syllables. Some kids love rote memory stuff; others not so much, at least not as preschoolers. So basically no, I don't think it's a problem, and it'll likely fix itself as he begins to make sense of the meaning numbers have in real life, to him personally. In another year or two you'll probably laugh to think that you ever worried.

Miranda
post #3 of 8
I don't think it's a problem.

My personal strategy is to totally ignore what academic skills my children have until they either reach "school age" or start clamoring for lessons. I couldn't tell you whether my 3.5 year old knows which letters and numbers are which, for example. I know he knows some of them, but I have no idea how many he knows. Similarly, I know he can count objects, but I have no idea how many of them he can count accurately.

My feeling is that by not evaluating or testing these skills, I avoid the possibility that I will start to pressure my child into learning something he may not be ready for. He is a preschooler. If he does not learn these things by the time he reaches school age, two years from now, I am sure he will master them in about five minutes at that time.

This method has worked out fine for my daughter, and I see no reason why it wouldn't work just as well for my son.
post #4 of 8
Not a problem and will work out as he reaches the appropriate developmental stage.

And really, why does he need to count right now? I agree with moominmama that he will do it when it's meaningful to him . . . like when he notices that you have five crackers and he has three or something.

I wouldn't worry about it at all and just give it some time.
post #5 of 8
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Not a problem and will work out as he reaches the appropriate developmental stage.

And really, why does he need to count right now? I agree with moominmama that he will do it when it's meaningful to him . . . .
I completely agree! And that goes for listening to stories as well--he's so little. Let him play -- the rest will come when he's ready.

And maybe this will add some perspective: "Kindergarten Readiness" includes things like counting to TEN. Around here, your ds wouldn't be eligible for Kindergarten for another TWO YEARS.

Relax, momma, you've got time.
post #6 of 8
My ds turned 4 in July and it is such a huge change. He is suddenly counting up to 12 and asking to understand what letters are. Before 4 he would count a little now we count everything. Mainly it is his work to learning a lot about the world through playing, we don't "do school" but we have letter magnets and cuisenard rods that come out when he is interested. Personally I don't think there is any value in doing instruction with a child that young if they aren't interested in it.

If you are concerned just start counting things as you see. Search out the circles you see, find the blue things in the room, look for the tallest tree or the shortest. Things like that are all beginnings for counting and such. Mainly keep it light and not forceful.

Just my thoughts.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Ok, glad to know it's MY problem, not his, LOL. He is so bright in so many things, for him to have 'trouble" in this just struck DH and I as weird, KWIM? And on both sides of the family, there are some members with some "issues" that were/are being ignored and we didn't want to do the same if this was somehow a flag.

DS has ALWAYS been an "old soul" and sometimes we forget how young he really is. And, in the playgroup I mentioned (which is full of wonderful MDC mamas who do NOT compare, as I said it's *me*) he is the youngest of the "big" kids...there is one girl who is 2 months older, then the next boy is 6 months older, which is a huge amount in terms of learning at this age, I know.

Thanks again for the insight! DH will be relieved.
post #8 of 8
My grown son was quite skilled in language and math as he went along, and scored very well on the SAT before entering the college of his choice on a scholarship, but I'm sure he couldn't have done any better than yours and would have been very frustrated if I'd tried to bring any of that into his life at that age. I'd really suggest just forgetting about any of that for now, and putting attention on just having fun with what he's good at and interested in. By the time he has any need for letters or numbers, his abilities will have grown. Lillian
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