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Please! Feedback on my first labor

post #1 of 10
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I've been on the VBAC board probably since DS (first child) was born 16mo ago. I'm 9wks pregnant with #2, and they'll be pretty much two years apart. I have always wanted to post a summary of my labor and c/s with DS in order to get personal feedback but haven't yet. I am now ready to. I've analyzed it from a dozen angles and feel I have learned a lot. Some things I can change and help, and some things I can't and need to leave it with the Lord.

I'll try to be concise! I put a bold question mark next to the labor events that looking back, I wonder are the "building blocks" to the cesarean.

Background: I received webster chiro care from 30 weeks on; seemed to be LOA from then on. I also dealt with symphosis pubis dysfunction and stopped the practice of squatting to alleviate the pain. I had looked forward to squatting to help bring baby down. Uneventul pregnancy otherwise, but I am/was overweight by 20-30 lbs. I had a desk job so I sat w/o the best posture. We took Bradley classes and I immersed myself in all kinds of birth stories.

LABOR: My water broke (?) the day after the chiro "stirred things up", at 38w3d. Labor started right away, progressed beautifully all day. Stayed home 6 hours, labored on birth ball, got to birth center at 4-5 cm at noonish. Got in tub, labored for a while and by 5pm I was 8cm. I vomited, hoped transition was upon me. Sat for two hours on a short birth ball and vocalized A LOT for two hours. I felt all the pain in my hips (?), felt like they were being stretched apart. Every now and then I'd feel the contraction in lower uterus (m/w seemd positive when this occured, less so when it was all through my hips). I had very active contractions, and from the start of labor, they never petered out. Accepted an IV during this time, and felt it improve my energy. I was at 9cm then and the midwife suggested that I started pushing if I wanted to see if that brought the baby down (???). Climbed in bed and started pushing (?) at 7pm. She could see him come down well, then he'd only come down so far. Hips hurt so much! Very active contractions. Tried pushing on the toilet a couple times, but still no further progress. Hemmoroids by this time from intense pushing with no help from my body (?) and less than two hours later, I start to sense from the m/w that things aren't moving, I kept asking if he was coming down more. She said he was facing right, was posterior. I kept giving a harder push, she said he wasn't going past my pubic bone. We talked about going to hospital for epidural, and decided to do that. Still contracting, lost all ability to deal with them. Change in midwife shift, the next one goes with us. Agonizing wheelchair ride up to L&D, assessemnt by OB and m/w, suggest instrument delivery will be needed, loss of freedom of movement if I get epi, had all the pushing options back at birth center, consented to C/S being overcome by pain and wanting something, hesistant for epi to lose feeling of possible injury with pubic pain, had c/s and welcomed 9lb 2oz boy 17 hours after water broke at around 11:30pm. No maternal or fetal distress. He did have molding that looked normal, at the crown of his head (so was he really posterior?)

My assessment: Water breaking to start labor didn't contribute to dropping into birth canal in a good position. I feel like I just needed to give it more time even though I understood transition to typically be short. Pushing, especially as a first time mom, without the help of my body was not a good thing. I wonder why the midwife suggested it, and DH later recalled that the nurse countered the suggestion that it might not be a good thing, I never heard her but wish I had. I wonder if I had done some deep squats, would he have come down? I reclined in the tub some, did that make him turn? Labor progressed well...what does that indicate compared to labors that drag on with malpositioning?

I don't have any feedback from OB from what he observed when I was cut open. I can't recall DS's head size but it was 90% (all of him was lol).

Suggestions for this time: continue webster care, starting later in pg; be more careful about weight gain (a lot was from carbs unnecessarily); be careful about posture and believe I can do it.

I appreciate any thoughts you have, very much!!
post #2 of 10
Water breaking to initiate labor does not necessarily cause babies to come down in poor position. It can...but isn't a given by any means...I'd say most babies position themselves beautifully when water breaks on it's own. Artificial rupture is another matter entirely....

I have to question the idea that your chiro brought labor on early. Your baby was already 9lb +--sounds like possibly baby was just ready to be born. Besides, it's not just external factors that bring on labor, if baby is not ready (well, not unless you're doing the whole 9yards of med induction). Labor starts naturally when signals from mom *and* baby are both in place--biochemical signals exchanged between them, that cause the cascade of normal biochemical processes of labor. I think if baby really wasn't ready, then your labor would not have started so soon, and so strongly, after water breaking.

I definitely question having you push so much, without any urge. But my way is to simply support women on all levels--with food, water, rest, labor support, etc--so that she can best feel her way through the process. I am slow to recommend positions/actions by mom if all is going well-enough...and quick to reach mostly for comfort measures to help her maintain enough energy, and the ability to cope with the sensations, however long it's taking. I once saw a FTM deliver a 9lb+ baby at home, after about 40hrs of labor. I think for most FTMs, it can be a bigger challenge to birth such a big baby--your hips have never had to open so wide, you don't have prior experience with how to cope with sensations and trust that it can work out just fine. Anyway, that mom/baby did fine, even with so many hours of (gradually intensifying) labor--with our simpler forms of support as to food, water, rest, comfort measures, and encouraging her to move/position herself as she felt led to. Maybe you got too much interference from providers, instead? Too much 'help' of a sort that did not help so much?

Transition may be short--or long--or anywhere in between. A woman might be fully, or nearly fully, dilated for seconds, minutes, or hours, in an otherwise NORMAL labor. A large first baby may simply need more time to mould, and find the way down through a first-time pelvis. Yes, more time--with better conditions all around for you--may well have done the trick for you guys. Pushing too soon--likely only increasing your pain for physical and emotional reasons (not just hurting more on a physical level, but also lending to the sense of 'delay' or 'impatience' or 'urgency'--forms of stress that can increase pain).

I seriously doubt your weight had anything to do with it. I know some moms of normal weight before and during pregnancy, who routinely grow 9lb babies in 38+ weeks. You might look at your diet to see if you might improve it in any way--but while it's worth looking into, it's not something to 'worry about', KWIM? Lots of factors seem to have figured into your cesarian birth--in the end, the pain seems to have been the most pressing (and that is understandable!). But otherwise, I didn't see anything in your story to suggest that you are *unable* to birth a baby normally--only that things were done or suggested in good intentions that did not have the desired effect, KWIM? Sometimes, those things work--but you are unique.
post #3 of 10
I agree with the pp- your baby was probably just ready to come. I don't think the chiro caused him to come earlier than he was ready.

Eating healthy and trying to stay within a good weight gain is always smart, regardless of the desired birth style. I had a big baby (and I am small) so I am watching my weight gain primarily to help the baby stay within a reasonable weight range. I honestly don't know how much control I have over it, but I am going to try.

Personally, I don't see any reason you couldn't have a smooth VBAC. You might want to check out some info on helping position baby before and during labor. My baby was posterior too and this time around I want to be armed with whatever knowledge I can find to help myself. I haven't started looking at info yet so I don't have any book recommendations for this info.
post #4 of 10
Your body sounds like it did everything it was "supposed" to do. You dialated beautifully, it sounds like.. ROM with great progression and steady contractions.. everything sounds really posititive. I hate that they dont put what direction the baby was facing in the operative report. My Dr. remembered it was an OP, because I was a homebirth transfer.

I didnt hear you mention any hands and knees. Id be curious to hear how your labor felt in that position.


I think everyone else has given great advice, if you feel there are improvements you could make to your diet to help baby bit a bit smaller, then great..

I know it is on the resource list, but I wanted to make sure you knew about The Pink Kit birthingbetter.com - I bet the hip lift would really feel great to you in labor., or the seated position, where the sit bones are spread (cant remember the name they call it)

Good luck mama! Im due in early May, and am rooting for you!
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it. I had a good first appt with my midwife and she said I have a roomy pelvis and also immediately responded that I am a great candidate after hearing a pretty detailed birth story. It's good to get that encouragement and the encouragement from those who posted here, it's empowering.
post #6 of 10
So nice to hear back from you--and I'm so glad to hear that your new mw is giving you the same encouragement we've tried to provide. You go, mama

Feeling empowered is such a good thing!
post #7 of 10
Sounds like you're a great candidate for a vbac.

On a side note, I ate way less carbs and more veggies and walked almost everyday with DS and he weighed 9lb 2 oz @ 40 + 3 wks (versus 8. 14oz @ 39wks with DD). So really, those factors only made a few ounces difference in their size).
post #8 of 10
My birth story sounds very similar to yours. SROM with contractions starting strongly soon after. I dilated completely on my own, no meds, almost all my pain was in my hips & thighs (I also had SPD). I was also encouraged to push without the urge. My son did not descend much at all, no moulding of his head whatsoever, but a large bruise on one side. I just had my first prenatal appointment with this pregnancy on Wednesday and apparently my chart from DS's c-section reports that he was transverse, which I wasn't aware of. I'm almost certain that he flipped into a non-favourable position during labour.

Anyway, I was told that I'm an excellent candidate for a VBAC since it was baby's position that led to the section & it sounds like your probably are too Good luck to you...hope we both get our VBACs
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by ~Amy~ View Post
My birth story sounds very similar to yours. SROM with contractions starting strongly soon after. I dilated completely on my own, no meds, almost all my pain was in my hips & thighs (I also had SPD). I was also encouraged to push without the urge. My son did not descend much at all, no moulding of his head whatsoever, but a large bruise on one side. I just had my first prenatal appointment with this pregnancy on Wednesday and apparently my chart from DS's c-section reports that he was transverse, which I wasn't aware of. I'm almost certain that he flipped into a non-favourable position during labour.

Anyway, I was told that I'm an excellent candidate for a VBAC since it was baby's position that led to the section & it sounds like your probably are too Good luck to you...hope we both get our VBACs
Amy, that is so interesting that our labors are similar. Yes...may we both be rejoicing in our births next spring!! I really want to know how yours turns out. What is your edd? I'm April 11.

I am interested to see the OB reports on the c/s, I never saw those but have read my labor records from the birth center.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by CookAMH View Post
Amy, that is so interesting that our labors are similar. Yes...may we both be rejoicing in our births next spring!! I really want to know how yours turns out. What is your edd? I'm April 11.

I am interested to see the OB reports on the c/s, I never saw those but have read my labor records from the birth center.
April 18. I've been thinking about getting my records to read as well. Unfortunately, they're not in English & I don't read French well.
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