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Bad Attitude... and it's mine :(

post #1 of 6
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My DD is 8 (3rd gr) and my DS is 6 (late K starter) and two more boys age 3.5 and 9mo. We are at a classical charter (-free) with a hybrid structure-- two days at school, 25 in a class, three days at home. We basically do lang. arts and math at home with some hist. and arts enrichment. History and science are done at school.

The problem is my own attitude. When the kids are enjoying and participating and having fun we are all having fun. When they wander off, get hungry in the middle of the math lesson, pitch a fit about using the workbook they loved yesterday, exclaim that they hate homeschool and don't ever want to do it ever again, cry because we can't go to the Rec swim because they haven't finished their work... I just get ticked off. And I hate that I get so frustrated and exasperated. I know I shouldn't have the expectation that they get their work done in a timely, organized manner. They are kids. But I feel like I make sooooo many accommodations for their attitudes that less and less gets done. So I worry they aren't going to learn and they will fall short of their potential and have bad attitudes to boot.

I hear that if the curriculum is fun the kids will be drawn to it and there won't be battles. So I start the day with a positive attitude and some fun games and great plans. Today I made up an egg hunt with letters and sound-match words inside. DS flips out that the eggs were hidden in only one room, he wants to draw on the eggs, he's mad that little brother is participating. He generally reacts negatively to any plan (he's a bit oppositional defiant) so I try to accomodate his plans. But soon it's all broken down and I'm bummed that my plan failed. See, I sound like a child myself. Poor me.

So it takes the kids all day to get a couple hours worth of work done. I'm exasperated because I feel like I've given in instead of compromised and I'm way behind on housework since I've been dealing with the kids all day. We don't get to leave the house on the adventure I had planned because nobody finished their work so we are all still grumpy.

Part of me wants to abandon the schedule. Let them run and play and drop by the table to do work when they want to. But I'm afraid nothing would get done.
Part of me wants a morning schedule where they do the work with me on time or if they don't, they can do it in their room on their own later in the day instead of the interactive play time the other kids would get. I feel like an ogre.

I think I'm ticked because they don't appreciate all I'm doing- - it would be so much easier to put them on the bus for the 7 hours of PS. How can they complain when they are getting it so good. Hurumph.

I do see my own errors here. I know I'm the one who needs to grow up. But I don't want to. I want a chocolate bar and to send them all to their rooms for generally bugging me.
Anybody see a solution for me? Personality transplant? Patience pills?
post #2 of 6
Oh, I know. I KNOW. Somedays things will be going great and then BAM, something happens and I'm so in the gutter.

My kids are notorious whiners when it comes to homeschooling things. For example, we did workboxes last year. They'd complain about what was in them, or who had what, or who is too fast or slow or this or that... and finally I had

ENOUGH!

So yesterday my husband brought them up and I said "NO. Too much trouble."

But the kids begged. They loved them. So finally, I pulled them out again and explained that they are different. They get different things. All whining is going to do is TICK ME OFF and not make a happy Mama.

Perhaps you should have a little meeting and explain the rules to them? Put it in black and white...get their opinions on things, too.

Then...stick to them. Remind them of the rules. Throw in fun stuff....throw in rewards....

And then tell me if it worked
post #3 of 6
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Yes, I think a little "meeting of the minds" powow might help. Actually, I'd mentioned this problem to my daughter earlier today and how the bummer is we don't get to go out and do fun stuff if we are all grouchy and not finishing our work and she caught herself a couple times as she started to complain. so that's something!
post #4 of 6
workboxes might be good. stuff can be done whenever they like as long as its done by ______ (bedtime / noon / whatever) then you can offer help or they can ask when needed.

my 3 1/2 year old has boxes and i just periodically remind him throughout the day to check and see what the homework fairy brought him. sometimes if its something he needs help with or doesn't interest him then I pull it out and do it with him.
post #5 of 6
Does the charter school oversee the language arts and math that you do at home or do you have some leeway here?


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When they wander off, get hungry in the middle of the math lesson, pitch a fit about using the workbook they loved yesterday, exclaim that they hate homeschool and don't ever want to do it ever again, cry because we can't go to the Rec swim because they haven't finished their work... I just get ticked off.
I think flexibility is the key. If they get hungry in the middle of the math, why not stop for a snack? Or if it happens all the time, set something out so they can snack before or during the work. Do you have to use the workbooks or can you play a game instead or do some practical, real-life, everyday type of math, perhaps orally? It sounds like the structure of workbooks and lessons is not a good fit for them--homeschooling doesn't have to look like school.

"Language Arts" at these ages could be a lot of read alouds, (independent reading for those who can.) Maybe writing letters to friends (for the older child) or things like madlibs or oral word games or puzzles like word searches and crosswords if they were into that.

I also wouldn't cancel activities because they didn't finish their work. Just go when it's time--do you have to turn this work into anyone? If so, I'd explain that to them and come to a solution together. Otherwise, I'd let it go.

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Part of me wants to abandon the schedule. Let them run and play and drop by the table to do work when they want to. But I'm afraid nothing would get done.
What's getting done now? It sounds like they're not doing much work, but there is lots of angst and friction between you. That's not really a good way to learn. Learning doesn't have to follow a schedule. Personally, I think it's more meaningful, and easier when it's done on one's own terms but even if you're required to cover certain material, it shouldn't have to be a struggle.

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I'm exasperated because I feel like I've given in instead of compromised... I think I'm ticked because they don't appreciate all I'm doing...
I pulled these two quotes out because I think they're key. When we first started hsing, I planned out a bunch of stuff for ds1, which he hated, and I started to feel resentful about all the research and planning I'd done and how he didn't appreciate it. Then, it occured to me that, while I'd done a ton of work for him, it wasn't what he needed from me. It was surely what I thought I should be doing, and maybe what I thought he should need, but it wasn't what HE needed.

So I made huge changes in the way we did things. It's not about who's in control or who wins--it's about doing what the kids need and what works for them. It is THEIR education, not MY teaching project, kwim? The learning has to happen in a way that works for them.
post #6 of 6
I feel your pain!!

My DS is a little sponge and loves to learn - unless it is sit down school time

He is very resistive to formalized instruction - one of the many reasons we are homeschooling. He learns really well thru play/explorations, thru hands on activity, and thru audio books or DVDs. If I give him those sorts of activities, he is excited and enjoys school - ask him to write his letters or his numbers and it is like pulling teeth!

I have found that books, activities, Netflix movies (discovery channel, BBC, PBS, etc), and interactive websites liek Cosmeo.com are the base our his education. It goes against everything in me to let him watch a cartoon to learn. But it works for him! He loves the grammar cartoons and games at Cosmeo - he has mastered nouns and verbs in a week thanks to those cartoons and games. He begs to watch/play them. He begs for Discovery documentaries too, and retains so much from watching them.

That said, I still do believe that writing his letters, numbers, etc is super important. We skipped a curriculum cuz I knew he would hate it. I got the Melissa and Doug wipe off placemat instead. He has to complete his "letterboard" every morning before we can move on to computer time learning. Sometimes he grumbles a bit first, but I remind him that he can't write notes to people if he doesn't do his letters, and reinforce that it has to be done before computer time. And then he bangs thru it. The motivation of the computer time lits a fire under his stubborn little booty

We do head off to activities regardless of whether we are done with school work or not. I have paid for those activities and we are going! Plus it can be a much needed break. If we didn't finish, we'll do it later or tomorrow.

Right now, my biggest objective is to keep his love of learning alive and to fuel his desire to learn. What are your kiddos interested in?? That may give you ideas on what/how to teach them...My DS is obsessed with books and movies - so I plan lots of literature based stuff to accompany our movies/computer games. Plus lots of crafty stuff to break it up and make it even more fun. Like today we are off to buy leather scraps to make a Caveman game bag. Also going to look for some stretchy lizards to "catch" and make into Lizard Stew. We'll make a teepee/tent using chairs and blanket. And some paper bag cave paintings. And make some paper spears and hunt some mammoths too - He will have fun, and want to read more about what he is playing. I am a sneaky momma!

But man I am struggling with making math more fun for him....gotta find some good math books, and thinking about just making up my own math fantasy based game. gotta get him hooked somehow!

Basically, my advice is just try to figure out HOW they enjoy and master material - and that is how you should try to "teach" them. And lay off a bit - if it isn't enjoyable for all of you now - imagine a few years from now. They are so little, just foster a love of learning and explore things together, the rest will fall into place.
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