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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Has anyone ever used stuff from http://www.coreknowledge.org/ ?

I remember using them at the Charter School I attended for a few years...but I don't remember if they were any good!! They have them at the local bookstore so I can thumb through it if I want to...but I wanted experiences as well.
post #2 of 16
Yup. BTDT and moving on. Let me give you my "lessons learned". Keep in mind that I was formerly a teacher--so I "get" lesson plans, pacing, objectives tied to standards, etc.

What I truly loved about CK was that it was, to some extent, flexible; and it incorporated the arts. It appeared to just give you a set of objectives and allowed you to figure out how to meet them. And it actually CAN be that.

What I truly DIDN'T love about CK was that it was WAY TOO MUCH to humanly cram into a year and do it in a way that allowed for experiential learning or expanding on topics unless you were schooling year-round, 7 days/week.

At it's foundation/base level, it is nothing more than a set of objectives to be met year-by-year from Preschool through 8th grade. You can get that in the Scope & Sequence (which I think is now free online, but that might not include Preschool).

It builds from there, though. There are plenty of online lesson plans free of charge to help you meet those objectives. There's the day-by-day planner if you need help with pacing. There's a Teacher's Guide (TG) to help YOU as a teacher understand the heart of what you're trying to convey to the student. The TG is actually really great in helping you identify the crux of the topic so you can find teachable moments.

There's also the "What Your X Grader Needs to Know" (usually abbreviated "WYxGNTK") series--which is a compliment to the CK objectives for that grade's year. For us, it was more like "CK lite" because it was a lot of great stuff without being the same, overwhelming amount of info in the actual Scope & Sequence. It's meant to compliment public schooling and provide "fill in" if these things aren't covered. So it's like "if not the whole curriculum, they at LEAST need to know THIS".

There are other resources you can find (at a cost) to help with CK. CK doesn't do a math curriculum but recommend Saxon (which we did/do) or Singapore (which didn't work for us). They also don't do a Social Studies curriculum and farm that out to Pearson (whose K books used to be really expensive with the rest of the grades reasonable--but they've mimicked the K extra large, color books in at least 1st grade now, too--so it's very expensive). As I understand, they've built a reading curriculum through CK now but I don't know if it's included in the TG's.

They also have the book "Books to Build on" which is a set of reading lists to compliment the subject matter taught in each grade so that you can supply stories that reinforce the subject matter you're teaching.

Are you getting that it gets pretty involved?

We have CK's "What Your x Grader Needs to Know" series. We also have the "Making the Grade: Everything Your X Grader Needs to Know" series (completely different). The Making the Grade series is slightly similar to the CK series, but differs in that it's more like a semi-scripted curriculum in a book written for parents who want to be sure their children hit the major milestones per grade. So they're telling you what to discuss with your child and what they should respond with, plus ideas for expanding as well as a very brief idea of what you're teaching and why. I think these two plus a Scope and Sequence could get you all the way through 8th grade. Seriously.

I bought the day-by-day planner, scope & sequence, TG for K, "WYxGNTK" for Preschool through 2nd grade, Saxon math and Pearson's Soc Studies for CK. When I tried to do my lesson pacing, I couldn't wrap my head around how on earth school districts were actually accomplishing it all. Keep in mind that when you're teaching more than 10-ish kids, you can't get nearly as much of a lesson done as when you're teaching 1-2 kids. I was teaching one kid. With experience in lesson planning (or at least objective-for-the-day planning since I taught electives and could get through a marking period that way if I knew the content well). CK was just a LOT, LOT, LOT of stuff. There was no possible way I could cover all the content let alone do it more hands on than in a classroom without it being a LOT of work on my part (and even then, I'm not sure it would've happened). So I ditched it and realized that this was partially why my kid wouldn't be going to school--so that he wouldn't just have things thrown at him for the sake of checking it off vs. actually learning about it well enough for it to matter. And to that end, when I really looked at what of the curriculum was really critical, I wasn't really sure how relevant some of the it was to learning anyway.

I still use the CK Scope and Sequence to check off what my son has actually mastered. I secretly panic that something will happen to me and he'll land in a classroom.

Oh, and at one point, a national curriculum was being considered so that all kids in all states were learning the same thing (CA and TX do this by the state). CK was a contender to be the national curriculum. I believe they tie all their objectives to the national standards, but most states have their own core curriculum standards that they follow as opposed to the national standards.
post #3 of 16
I don't have any experience with it as a curriculum as a whole, but I have used some of their online lesson plans and really liked them. We're using quite a few of them for American history this year. I have links to the specific ones on a website I created to keep track of the links we're using, but I don't know if I can share it here. You can send me a PM if you want the link.
post #4 of 16
Oh yeah... and the city of Baltimore and some district in Colorado I BELIEVE puts ALL of their lesson plans online. But there are also many others.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hmm...I just remember using the "What your x Grader" books (in Colorado oddly enough) Maybe I'll grab those and combine it with something else?
post #6 of 16
I use the free lesson plans and the 'What Y -Grader Should Know" books as a ref. We use the library for almost all of our needs except spelling and math workbooks. I don't feel like I have to use it all or cram it all in..we take what we like. I love the fact they include classic literature into their language arts area. We usually choose a condensed or illustrated version and then watch a movie afterwards. This week we read " The Indian and the Cupboard" and watched the movie to learn about imagery. My ds is very basic when it comes to writing sentences and I am always prodding him to add description or details. He pretty much hates to write. He told me he enjoyed it and my younger ds 5 was happy to watch as well.

One thing is that many of the lessons involve a group or class of students..I have to skip over these. This would bother me if I were paying.

I will also mention that I don't have a problem with using text books that I find at Good Will or yard sales for lessons. I know some people are opposed to that , but we don't mind.
post #7 of 16
yes, i like the CK sequence a lot. it is so flexible & you can use it so many different ways! you can put together your own curriculum following the CK sequence, or you can choose to purchase curriculum that follows the CK sequence. they list all of the compatible publishers at their website here:
http://books.coreknowledge.org/home.php?cat=304

they have lesson plans at their website too for free & the BCP lessons are great too (also linked at their website). the sequence has been for sale up until this year, and it's free now! here it is:

http://www.coreknowledge.org/mimik/m...quence_Rev.pdf

hth.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by heatherdeg View Post
ou can get that in the Scope & Sequence (which I think is now free online, but that might not include Preschool).
preschool is free too:

http://www.coreknowledge.org/mimik/m...e_PreK_Rev.pdf
post #9 of 16
I've got a couple of the "What Your ___ Grader Should Know" books. They are the older versions. I find them to be very helpful. I was a little overwhelmed trying to piece my own curriculum together on my own. These books have given me the starting point. I'm able to customize the lessons we do and use it as a jumping off point for inspiration and guidance. I got mine for like $7 each at a used book store and they have been well worth it to me.
post #10 of 16
I use the CK sequence.

I actually found a used copy of the monthly planner since I found that much more easier to navigate/tinker with than the day by day.

So far so good and I find I'm getting a lot done in our week.

ETA. I also use the free lesson plans that they (CK), the Baltimore school, and the Colorado place put online.

There is also a CK homeschool group located at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ckhomeschoolers/
post #11 of 16
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I don't have any experience with it as a curriculum as a whole, but I have used some of their online lesson plans and really liked them. We're using quite a few of them for American history this year. I have links to the specific ones on a website I created to keep track of the links we're using, but I don't know if I can share it here. You can send me a PM if you want the link.
ME ME ME ME send it to me -- I love you Jessica
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ME ME ME ME send it to me -- I love you Jessica
Aimee, you crack me up! You have a PM.
post #13 of 16
I've planned our curriculum around it this year for social studies, science, art, literature, and music. I used the baltimore plans a lot as at least my jumping off point. I think they are really helpful in terms of breaking it down into manageable chunks you could actually realistically cover. It wasn't overwhelming like the Core Knowledge Sequence feels at first. I adapted the social studies and art more than I did the literature, science, and music. I did it free--most of the resources and additional things I needed were free online. Jessica, I would love your links
post #14 of 16
To me the CK plans are really overwhelming. There is no way our son could digest that much material. There is no way I could cover it at a pace he could keep up with. I get tired and feel incompetent, and bad for him, just looking them over. It is super discouraging to me. I've decided to pretend it doesn't exist.
post #15 of 16
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To me the CK plans are really overwhelming. There is no way our son could digest that much material. There is no way I could cover it at a pace he could keep up with. I get tired and feel incompetent, and bad for him, just looking them over. It is super discouraging to me. I've decided to pretend it doesn't exist.
They were overwhelming to me at first, too. I copied and pasted one into a Word doc and reformatted it for our use and suddenly I could see it working. So if you want to use them, I suggest trying the reformatting. If you don't want to use them, ignore me.
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by *Jessica* View Post
They were overwhelming to me at first, too. I copied and pasted one into a Word doc and reformatted it for our use and suddenly I could see it working. So if you want to use them, I suggest trying the reformatting. If you don't want to use them, ignore me.
we all love you Jessica
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