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Poll Results: What type of Carseat Cover do you prefer?

 
  • 27% (8)
    Bunting/Sleeping Bag type that zips up the sides
  • 55% (16)
    The ones that elastic over the top with the Peep hole
  • 3% (1)
    The blankets the cover that velro around the handles
  • 13% (4)
    Other
29 Total Votes  
post #21 of 45
I love the burger analogy! Glad to know that they aren't horrible; I have always shuddered when I see that picture!
post #22 of 45
We use a BabyCape.
It even has a pocket on the underside to pop little baby legs and feet into so they stay snuggly.

Love it.
post #23 of 45
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Originally Posted by paxye View Post

I hate the showercap styles because of the overheating issue that the pp mentioned and the fact that my kids have freaked out when we tried it... I would freak out too actually.. we don't use the carseat out of the car so we want something to keep baby warm, not suffocate them...
Those that I have used are very easily unzipped once they're in the car. There's no suffocation risk.
post #24 of 45
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Originally Posted by pumpkinhead View Post
Those that I have used are very easily unzipped once they're in the car. There's no suffocation risk.
I guess that like the bunting style ones, there are differences between models.... because the ones I see either don't zip up or if they are unzipped, baby is exposed to the cold...

In any of those cases, they are really not useful for those like me that don't use a carseat out of the car, don't use a coat for baby or don't or can't preheat the car before getting in...

an_aurora...

I understand, if I hadn't held it and seen it, I would never have bought it with that picture, but it really is a great bunting...
I understand that it is easer to make a blank statement then to differentiate between models but this is one case that they are made very well and make using a carseat without a coat in a very cold climate very easy...
post #25 of 45
Thread Starter 
hm...i'm still not finding an option that i'd be happy with. i run my own business and used to sell those sleeping bag type carseat covers but have since stopped making them due to the safety issues. my sister still is insistent on me making her one though so i think i'll take the kokkoon idea and just make sure there is no padding in the back of it. this is also an option for me because i like being able to just put baby in regular clothes and just zip up...BUT like pp, i don't use my carseat outside of the car so that leaves the issue of baby not being warm enough outside the car.

i was thinking of using a nice wool blanket that i could knit but i have the problem of the wind...it's very windy here in the winter and the blanket would never stay on.

which i guess that would mean any type of blanket it out - although with all my other babies i always brought a blanket as well to wrap baby in when i left the car.

i don't have the option of pre-heating my car and i drive an old beat up suburban so i dont think it heats up that fast.

i have an idea - how about i just talk to the weather man and tell him to keep it above freezing this year...haha
post #26 of 45
To get to and from the car I put baby on me and under my coat... get in the car and strap them in... the Kokoon warms up very quickly once they are in it....
post #27 of 45
Honestly I would make a blanket statement saying nothing that goes between the carseat and the child, or the child and the straps, should be used. There is too much room for error. I don't care how thin the fleece is, sorry! A fleece outfit/jacket, and a blanket over top (with or without a showercap style cover) is your best bet. In the coldest of climates, a fleece bunting or jacket, blanket, and showercap cover is going to keep the child plenty warm in the time it takes to get out to the car, or from the car to the store, etc.
post #28 of 45
Sorry, to disagree but, as I said, you have never seen the kokoon,

This is an old picture but this is the back of the Kokoon... the straps are not threaded through any fabric, and there is nothing that interfere with them. There is no fabric between the straps the baby and the carseat. You can put baby in the carseat adjust the straps, and not change a thing if you use the bunting...

There is the fabric in the middle that is then folded down behind the baby's back... but again, there is nothing between the straps, the baby, and the carseat so the baby is strapped in as if there was nothing, because there is nothing...so even the recommended and tried fleece outfit/coat would be thicker and the straps need to be loosened a bit...

Also, we don't use the carseat out of the car (it isn't recommended to do so either) so that setup would never have worked and my babies would have very much overheated with all of that... (even when it is -30)

ETA... I would not recommend the Bundle me, or others like it, but I really do believe that this one is safe and very useful.
post #29 of 45
Thread Starter 
thanks for posting the picture...i wondered what the back really looked like.

i knew this post was going to end up in a debate about what was safe or not. the way i look at it is...if there isn't something ON the seat, there is something ON the baby...so either way, there is going to be SOME fabric between the baby and the seat. I'm really looking to make my OWN decision on the safety issue of it all but just wondering WHAT people use in these really cold climates

i do bring my seat in from the car when i get home because of the freezing factor...who wants to put a newborn in a seat that is literally freezing cold. yikes. but i dont bring it into stores with me.
post #30 of 45
My point of view is that having spoken to the head of Transport Canada's car seat division, who is a Forensic Physicist, and listening to her talk about the babies who have died from using Bundle Me's and similar (the sleeping bag style) I will never use one myself, and I will advocate heavily against them.
post #31 of 45
I really wish that this wasn't a debate... we all want the absolutely safest way to ride in the car and keep our children warm. Every time this subject comes up it always comes to the same thing. A blanket statement based on the idea of a very bad product.

Like slings and baby carriers, not all are made alike. I teach babywearing classes and I advocate for babywearing and safety. Just because there are some very dangerous carriers out there like the Infantino slingrider which have been the cause of deaths, I would not say to not use any sling like many people have done.

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Originally Posted by Twinklefae View Post
My point of view is that having spoken to the head of Transport Canada's car seat division, who is a Forensic Physicist, and listening to her talk about the babies who have died from using Bundle Me's and similar (the sleeping bag style) I will never use one myself, and I will advocate heavily against them.
Ahhh... the scare tactics....

I honestly wouldn't use most of them either and I do explain to people that they are no safe.... except for the ones that have nothing between the baby and the seat...(and again a fleece coat is by definition more material between baby and seat)

Even on the car-seat forums there are people that use the Bundle me with the back cut out...

Any way.. The best thing is to make an informed decision and figure out what works best for you...
post #32 of 45
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Originally Posted by paxye View Post
Ahhh... the scare tactics....

I honestly wouldn't use most of them either and I do explain to people that they are no safe.... except for the ones that have nothing between the baby and the seat...(and again a fleece coat is by definition more material between baby and seat)

Even on the car-seat forums there are people that use the Bundle me with the back cut out...

Any way.. The best thing is to make an informed decision and figure out what works best for you...
Is stating a true fact scare tactics now? Yes people use a bundle me with the back cut out, but that's a fairly elaborate process and it isn't exactly the same as using one off the shelf.

Talk to Barbara Baines. She isn't exactly conservative in her views. She's fine with children going FF at a year and 22lbs, she thinks kids are fine in boosters once they hit 40lbs. But she thinks that sleeping bag style infant covers are deadly. And since she's got a ton of education and 20 years experience in the field, I'll take her word for it.
post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by Twinklefae View Post
Is stating a true fact scare tactics now? Yes people use a bundle me with the back cut out, but that's a fairly elaborate process and it isn't exactly the same as using one off the shelf.

Talk to Barbara Baines. She isn't exactly conservative in her views. She's fine with children going FF at a year and 22lbs, she thinks kids are fine in boosters once they hit 40lbs. But she thinks that sleeping bag style infant covers are deadly. And since she's got a ton of education and 20 years experience in the field, I'll take her word for it.
Yes, I know, she is the one that finally convinced me to turn my 9 month old because he was over the weight limit for the seats in Canada at the time...

And that is exactly my point, the Kokoon is an off the shelf product that works like the bundle-me with the back cut out. There is no elaborate process... It is made like that.
post #34 of 45
Since we're debating the Kokkoon and I had never seen it, I googled for an image and found this. http://www.bummis.com/ca/en/kokoon-safety-letter.php

"While not required by law, Bummis decided to perform a crash test to investigate these concerns. In June 2002, the Impact Facility Group conducted the test at Defense Research and Development Canada in Toronto. The infant car seat, used in conjunction with the Kokkoon, met or exceeded CMVSS 213.1. Parents can be reassured that the Kokkoon is safer than many snowsuits or bunting bags. While the Kokkoon is an after market product, it is constructed so as not to interfere with the functioning of the car seat. Please note that our testing applies to the Kokkoon only and not to any other after market products offered by other companies."
post #35 of 45
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Originally Posted by nutritionistmom View Post
Since we're debating the Kokkoon and I had never seen it, I googled for an image and found this. http://www.bummis.com/ca/en/kokoon-safety-letter.php

"While not required by law, Bummis decided to perform a crash test to investigate these concerns. In June 2002, the Impact Facility Group conducted the test at Defense Research and Development Canada in Toronto. The infant car seat, used in conjunction with the Kokkoon, met or exceeded CMVSS 213.1. Parents can be reassured that the Kokkoon is safer than many snowsuits or bunting bags. While the Kokkoon is an after market product, it is constructed so as not to interfere with the functioning of the car seat. Please note that our testing applies to the Kokkoon only and not to any other after market products offered by other companies."
Not to criticise the Kokkoon (I've never seen one, but it seems better than the BundleMe's so I will reserve judgement) "crash tested" can mean anything unfortunately. There is no standard testing for any aftermarket products. CMVSS 213.1 is the testing that infant seats have to pass, but testing an aftermarket product to pass CMVSS doesn't really mean much.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by crunchycanadian View Post
Not to criticise the Kokkoon (I've never seen one, but it seems better than the BundleMe's so I will reserve judgement) "crash tested" can mean anything unfortunately. There is no standard testing for any aftermarket products. CMVSS 213.1 is the testing that infant seats have to pass, but testing an aftermarket product to pass CMVSS doesn't really mean much.
I read that to mean that the seat passed the testing with the use of the Kokkoon, which if it impacted the use of the harness it would not. Correct me if I'm wrong.
post #37 of 45
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Originally Posted by nutritionistmom View Post
I read that to mean that the seat passed the testing with the use of the Kokkoon, which if it impacted the use of the harness it would not. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I see what you mean, I've just seen some particularly tricky wording for "crash testing". I'm not saying the Kokkoon is dangerous, like I said before I think from what I see online it seems much better than BundleMe's and other bunting bags, I just reccomend taking the "crash testing" with a grain of salt. It can literally mean they threw it against the wall and it didn't break, therefore crash tested.
post #38 of 45
Just kind of strolling in here. What do y'all think of this kind?
I don't need anything really heavy duty but I'm due in December (in Texas) and then moving to Michigan in February.
post #39 of 45
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Originally Posted by crunchycanadian View Post
I see what you mean, I've just seen some particularly tricky wording for "crash testing". I'm not saying the Kokkoon is dangerous, like I said before I think from what I see online it seems much better than BundleMe's and other bunting bags, I just reccomend taking the "crash testing" with a grain of salt. It can literally mean they threw it against the wall and it didn't break, therefore crash tested.
I hear you about the "crash testing". I'm fairly certain you can't claim a product meets the CMVSS unless Barb's crashed it though. I can email her or Deanna from SeatsforKidsCanada (she does all Barb's trainings in this area). It's not going to get me to endorse the Kokkoon, but now I'm kind of curious.
To be continued...
post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by WifeofAnt View Post
Just kind of strolling in here. What do y'all think of this kind?
I don't need anything really heavy duty but I'm due in December (in Texas) and then moving to Michigan in February.
That looks like a showercap style to me, it just goes over the seat, doesn't go under baby at all and those are safe and awesome

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Originally Posted by nutritionistmom View Post
I hear you about the "crash testing". I'm fairly certain you can't claim a product meets the CMVSS unless Barb's crashed it though. I can email her or Deanna from SeatsforKidsCanada (she does all Barb's trainings in this area). It's not going to get me to endorse the Kokkoon, but now I'm kind of curious.
To be continued...
Let me know what you find out! I'd love to know what Barb says. Heck, if I could have a bunting style cover to reccomend I might be able to talk parents out of the BundleMe's easier!
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