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help me decide: UC vs. midwife

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
So I had a UC with DS, it felt very natural at the time. Labor was 8 hours total, my body did all pushing, I was simply in the flow. Because I was so in the flow, I knew that if I tried to resist things, it probably would have caused problems. I basically gave birth alone because my partner at the time wasn't emotionally available. That was fine by me because it truly was a very magical experience, I felt swept away by it all, birth simply happened all by itself (go figure ha).

This time around, I'm not as sure as myself as I was before, for some reason. A part of me feels like because the process swept me away, what if something bad had happened but I wasn't aware enough to do anything about it? What if this time around things don't go as smoothly? What if I was overconfident last time? What if I should have someone there *just in case*? But what if having someone there impedes the flow/makes me feel uncomfortable? What if I'm doubting things because since it was so intense, I'm scared of not having any controla gain?

Any insights into your own journey or anything that came up for you while reading this is much appreciated. Thanks!
post #2 of 10
All I can tell you is that my second one also raised doubts and fears in my mind. My first birth was so powerful, and I just went with the flow. It went wonderfully. For my second, I couldn't shake the feeling that something would go wrong, or that I couldn't possibly have another birth like the first. (I didn't, but that is a whole 'nother story!)

I think that once you know the power of birth, we approach it with a little more apprehension. When you don't know what you are getting into, it is easier to dive right in. Now that you know, well, you are a little more cautious. This doesn't mean that you can't UC agian, or that you should hire a MW. All it means is that you have more respect for the process of labor and delivery. In the end, you need to do what makes you most confident and comfortable. Maybe a very "hands off" MW?
post #3 of 10
Yeah, from the sounds of it a hands-off midwife would be great for you. I'd love that too, but those aren't that easy to find I don't believe.

I would probably make sure to have someone there with you. I think that would reassure you. Give them information on what complications to watch for and on what to do if you need to transfer. If you have a real close friend of family member they would work very well I'd think.

But, anyway, do whatever feels right for you in the end.
post #4 of 10
My first son's birth was UC. It was the most amazing experience, and textbook as far as these things go. I never once during the pregnancy or the labor (under 6 hours total time) doubted my decision to UC, or thought I needed some help.

During my second pregnancy, I had lots of niggling fears and doubts that kept creeping into my mind. I thought it was just second time jitters. It seems pretty common among us here to worry, if our first experience was easy and "perfect", that we can't possibly be so lucky again.

Well, I wasn't. Lucky the second time, that is. BUT. There is NOTHING a doctor or midwife could have done to change the outcome for my youngest son. I did wind up having him en route to the hospital, since I was just over 35 weeks. My personal cut off to UC is 37 weeks.

Anyway. What I think I am trying to articulate, and doing a very poor job of, is you need to really listen to yourself and your fears. Is there anything specific that you are afraid of? Do you feel some sort of unnamable ominous feeling? YOU are the only one that can know if you should seek out some kind of assistance. But, I firmly believe, even more so after this recent experience, that our gut tells us things. We just have to listen. Spend some time really exploring your feelings. Research the things that could go wrong. Knowledge is powerful. I encourage you to really listen to yourself, that little voice in the back of your mind. You don't have to be in a huge hurrry to make a decision, take your time, and do some soul searching.

And just for the record - would I UC again? Yes. Without a doubt, it will be a probability next time. (Didn't want y'all thinking I've gone all anti-UC.)
post #5 of 10
i am more in alignment with lunarlady.

i would say that i respected birth before, but i didn't fully comprehend it, just as a virgin doesn't fully comprehend the power of sex. i think this is true of every first time mother, though, whether she has an attendant or not.

what i have also noticed is that *most* women feel apprehension the second time with birth because they do *know* it's power. they do have a deeper appreciation and respect for those risks. this is, again, whether or not they have an attendant.

i think the idea is that we come away going "can we get lucky twice?" when a woman has a bad experience, even, but she and the baby make it through, she will still go--the second time, and i've seen it--will the next one be worse? so much more could go wrong!

it's just more understanding. and it's something that we can face again, just as we did the first time--working through our fears.

interestingly enough, i was fairly certain that i didn't want to birth again after my first, even though i had a pleasurable (no pain), ecstatic UC. it was a phenomenal birth. surely, i would want to do it 10 times. but, alas, no. LOL

now, we say "we'll talk about it in 3 years" (having anothr child, as DS will be 5 then) and i also feel (being two years out from that birth) that I would UC again (unless i felt a strong reason not to).

it just makes sense to me to UC.
post #6 of 10
(and LJ, sorry for your loss.)
post #7 of 10
Hi Rainbow!

I think you just have to kind of ride it out. Explore your feelings, go over it in your head. There's no hurry to hire mw. If you feel like you really want one then you can always hire one later on.
post #8 of 10
I think your "fears" are normal. I had a lot to struggle through with my 4th baby. I had a hospital birth, pit, episotomy, purple pushing, demerol, the whole bit, with my first. With my second, I wanted a homebirth, but DH convinced me that we should be in the hospital "in case something happens". Well, duh, something DOES happen, the baby comes out. My second hospital experience was slightly less traumatic but not good... I "gave up" at around 6cm, wanted pain relief, which turned out not to be helpful, just made me sick and disorented, had a rude doctor who kept putting his hands around her head and trying to push my cervix and later my labia up and off her head... I guess he thought he was helping, but I just was angry and felt violated and powerless.

We had a homebirth with the third, and the midwives didn't show up! They didn't come till about an hour after baby came. It was GREAT! She came out in the water, daddy caught, I was totally calm and cool and loved it. I FELT sooo much of what was happening... my water broke with a sharp slap against my perineum, underwater! I felt my cervix relax and open up as soon as I got in the tub, after resting on the bed. I felt every inch of her come out, and loved that she kicked her feet to "swim" out the last few inches... it was SO COOL!

So, we planned to UC with the 4th one. Inbetween 3 and 4, though, I was a doula for the first time to a friend who wanted what I had had, a lovely, uncomplicated homebirth. She labored and planned to birth at my home, as theirs had burned! a few months before her baby was due.
Her birth went horribly. She had sexual issues that really came into play at the end of her labor and she basically ended up refusing to push, even though she was complete and ready. She wasn't mentally and emotionally ready, even though her body was. It was an incredible learning experience for me, it was very sad, too. What I didn't expect was the impact it had on me. I was pregnant at the time and for the last 4-5 months of my own pregnancy, planning UC, feeling fine, having a normal, easy pregnancy, I mentally stressed about the "WHAT IF's". They tortured me. What if I can't push, like my friend? What if I labor for three days? What if something goes wrong? What if I bleed too much or if baby's not breathing, what if what if what if.

I spent a LOT of time working through my fears and when I finally went into labor, I had overcome about 90% of my fears. I still had this niggling, in the back of my mind, fear of the "unknown". I regret that now, and wish I had perhaps done a little more internal work to get rid of the fear altogether. My fourth birth was as smooth and straighforward as one could possibly ask for. It lasted all of about 5 hours, after weeks of normal prodromal labor. It was "easy" even though the labor was hard work. I spent a small amount of time worrying that it would last longer than I wanted, I'd get too tired, but it didn't. I LET MY BODY take over, I released control. I did what felt right, I held DH's hand, he was my anchor to reality as I swam in laborland.

I am now pregnant with baby 5. I still have occasional "fears" that pop in and out of my mind. I think that a positive thing to do is to change them from "fears" to "things to prepare for". I think of them now as things to simply be aware of, to be prepared for. So, I personally, think about bleeding too much, although I have NEVER had this problem in the past... I have read (somewhere) that moms who are grand multis (5 or more babies) are at higher risk of pph. So, I read, I prepare and I lessen my fear of this potential problem, and instead, turn it into a learning, positive experience. I already know how to help prevent and deal with a pph, as I have had that experience as a midwife's assistant/apprentice. So, I know how to recognize too much bleeding, how to massage the uterus, how to keep baby at breast, helpful tinctures, etc. And, I am also not afraid or unwilling to go to the hospital if there is a problem I can't deal with.
I think our intuition, when allowed to penetrate our "normal" lives will help lead us in the direction we need to be to be prepared for our births. I also think that once we've experienced birth, we RESPECT the power of birth, of our bodies, and also of nature and how things CAN go "wrong" or you can experience a complication. I don't call it fear... having a healthy respect for birth is wise, and experience is our teacher... so second and more time moms are wiser and are experienced and so they can know how to respect birth and be even more prepared for it's normal, and sometimes abnormal variations.

Just as an inexperienced bicycle rider will wobble and be very nervous and will have adrenaline rushing through their veins, an experienced bicycle rider knows that although a rock in the road could catapult them head first off the bike, they also know the pleasure and joy of riding their bike on a cool fall day, crunching leaves under the tires. They don't let the "fear" of an accident or a spill hold them back from the pleasure of bike riding. They know to check the air pressure and make sure their brakes work, they adjust the seat to suit them, they prepare and inform themselves and then....they enjoy the ride.
post #9 of 10
I just had a amazing UC.. I did it mostly alone because my hubby just didnt want to deal with it.. (We have had a full term baby loss)

Anyways I have to admit that I was lonely during the birth.. If I have anymore children I will have another woman there for me.. Either a midwife that is hands off or a trusted friend..

Lisa
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Wow, thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies. There were so many awesome quotes that touched my soul and helped me trust my intuition more that I don't know where to begin! It makes sense that I would have more reverence for birth now that I've been through it, it's only natural. That reverence, though, doesn't have to equal having more fear...thanks to those for helping me see that.

I'm going to be living with my parents when I give birth this time around. I briefly talked with my mom about the possibility of having a UC and she was a bit overwhelmed. I don't want to give her or my dad a heart attack, but I also want to do what feels the most comfortable and natural. I don't know, I'll see what flows with my parents. I also have been sensing that I could be carrying twins, which adds complexities that I'll need to work through. I'll probably see a midwife long enough to at least get an ultrasound.

Anyway, thanks again for all the thoughtful replies!
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