ok I'm just irritated now

[kittie313]

So I'm having issues with dd1 and math. She hates math and gets physically violent with me when I suggest that we do a math lesson together. For my h she plays dumb and intentionally makes mistakes on her adding and subtracting over and over. So I just printed up some single digit add and subtract drill sheets and told her that if she wants to do them they are in her box and she can have at it any time. She grabs one 10min after I put them in there and looks at the first problem. Then she comes up and taps me on the shoulder to tell me "I am not doing these supid sheets, they are too difficult." They were all problems like 3+4 with the biggest one on that page being 5+5..........................

And yet, last night I found her hiding under a table with the dry erase board and pen and the base 10 set and place value mat, making up addition problems and solving them (with carrying!)....................... One of these days I'll figure out that I just need to leave her alone with the materials to learn a concept and let her work it out on her own without worrying about trying to keep up with the local ps standards.

[naturegirl7]

So sorry mama! No advice - just wanted to send a hug.

I would just set up a math box and give her free reign for a while. Maybe it is the instruction part of it that she hates? or the tediousness of the worksheet?

If she can carry - then skip ahead to what she is doing for herself. Maybe the challenge will help get her interested again? Or maybe just focus on games for a while?

[Momma Aimee]

glad she is showing she has skills -- personally I'd have an issue with the defiance in her 'tude towards you -- but i am glad she is finding a way to cover the learning

[elizawill]

i assume you're using k12 curriculum, is that right? can you just take the problems and master the same concepts in a different manner? you said she was using a dry erase board successfully, so can she use that for math instead & you write the answers in her book? or perhaps you two could play math bingo, use file folder games, or you could use manipulatives, etc. ykwim? anyway-just a thought. i'm sorry you guys are struggling. when my daughter was in grade 1, we went through an awful time with math. once i changed the curriculum, it was a world of difference for us both. hugs.

[kittie313]

Originally Posted by Momma Aimee

glad she is showing she has skills -- personally I'd have an issue with the defiance in her 'tude towards you -- but i am glad she is finding a way to cover the learning

oh believe me, I do have an issue with the open defiance. My poor shins will be thankful when we finally get it worked out and she figures out a better way of voicing her displeasure and that not all things in life are supposed to be fun and easy.

Originally Posted by elizawill

i assume you're using k12 curriculum, is that right? can you just take the problems and master the same concepts in a different manner? you said she was using a dry erase board successfully, so can she use that for math instead & you write the answers in her book? or perhaps you two could play math bingo, use file folder games, or you could use manipulatives, etc. ykwim? anyway-just a thought. i'm sorry you guys are struggling. when my daughter was in grade 1, we went through an awful time with math. once i changed the curriculum, it was a world of difference for us both. hugs.

Wait, I didn't even think about the dry-erase board on that. Can someone tell me WHY she likes it and the pen over her workbook or a sheet of paper with a pencil, pen, crayon, etc? Is it a texture thing?

[Daffodil103]

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Wait, I didn't even think about the dry-erase board on that. Can someone tell me WHY she likes it and the pen over her workbook or a sheet of paper with a pencil, pen, crayon, etc? Is it a texture thing?[/QUOTE]

I read somewhere that kids with perfectionist issues prefer stuff like dry-erase because it gives them a sense of safety. If they make a mistake, they can just erase. I don't know how much truth there is or whether or not it applies to you DD but thought I'd throw it out there.

FWIW, my DD learned to carry by watching Basic Math from Teaching Company which was her sister's assignment. She also actively participates in her sister's critical thinking & vocab lessons. I think it's the no pressure thing. She cringes & whines a bit when it comes to her own stuff. I've learned that she learns best when I leave her with the material as well. Maybe try a computer math program or DVD type thing?

[elizawill]

Originally Posted by kittie313

Wait, I didn't even think about the dry-erase board on that. Can someone tell me WHY she likes it and the pen over her workbook or a sheet of paper with a pencil, pen, crayon, etc? Is it a texture thing?

i dunno. but if it works... roll with it!! lol.

my dd does spelling with a dry erase board and nothing else. ever. she can do spelling painlessly this way, but god forbid i ask her to write those same words with pen and paper

[Marimami]

I told my DH to post on this thread, but I don't think he's going to, but he's the genius who figured this out for our house.

My DD is a perfectionist. In her mind, nothing is worse than not knowing the answer the first time. It doesn't matter what it is. But, math is a particularly sticky point for her on this issue--no idea why.

She has great abstract mathematical knowledge and does a lot of stuff in her head. She also really, really hates worksheets. She hates repetition. Hates the idea of getting something "wrong" permanently (even with pencil!)

We have finally settled onto RightStart because it's a great combo of games and manipulatives with few worksheets compared to Singapore. Yet, they still have some worksheets.

DH talked to her a lot about why she didn't like them, and they finally are at the point where she is okay working things out first on the whiteboard and then (if she wants) transferring them to the workbook, or not.

It has helped them a great deal I think.

I had already been using a whiteboard for spelling, and it just didn't occur to me to suggest it for math too. It's one of those "duh" moments!

Good luck!
Holli