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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I'm really close to pulling my 6 year old out of school. Any links or anything would help. He's quite bright and can read well above grade level. I will also welcome info on kids with cognitive delays because i will probably eventually pull my other son out of school also.


Otherwise, help for a 504 plan when the district doesn't want to recognize the disability.
post #2 of 10
I pulled my 8 yo after grade 1. She was/is well above grade level in terms of academics, but socially she's nowhere near age-level. She was beginning to become very anxious and hate learning, so we decided to homeschool, and it was the best decision I have made for her. We've just started back to 'school' and are doing some overwhelmingly 'too easy' work just to get the rhythm of the day back, and to help build her confidence again.

We are doing some grade 2/3 review- she reads at a grade 11 level now, and her math is about grade 6. I want it to be very easy for her for the next couple weeks so she can focus on building the routine into the day first. At heart, I would probably be an unschooler, but she thrives on the routine, so we create that for her- I often present things below her skill level, and when she is interested, I follow her lead to learn more from there.

Also, she spent the morning doing her 'work' with a dragon-shaped pen while snacking on goldfish and drinking hot cocoa- in comfy clothes and without having had to rush out the door and all that stress. We are all getting over a cold, so those unhealthy snacks are totally being allowed at the moment. I love the flexibility.

And shamelessly because it is SUCH a picture of a 'typical' Aspie/homeschooler...

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post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you so much, this has really helped me more than you could think. Not only are we getting no help for his social issues, but the teacher admits that Parker is much more intelligent than all/most of the other kids in her class. When I asked for work to challenge him, she blew me off. He has become very anxious and stressed. She said today there are maybe 15 kids in her class who could use an aide. She was also the first person to suggest he needed one but had since backpedaled. Certainly because the district folks got to her, thats what happened to his K teacher. That's also why his brother's SDC teacher won't talk in front of anyone about what these kids need. I honestly think they are afraid to lose their jobs.
post #4 of 10
You might post this same question on the homeschool board.

My DD is 2E, both gifted and autistic, and we used to homeschool. I am no longer a fan of homeschooling for children on the spectrum because it was our experience that it was impossible to work on her social emotional development through homeschooling, and that it provided me with no respite from raising a special needs child. She currently attends a private progressive school which is working out GREAT for her.

As far as getting the district to recognize the disability, you need a medical dx from a doctor, and you get that by getting a full neuro psychological evaluation. That evaluation includes IQ testing. That is the first step to a 504 or IEP.

You can get an eval through the district, but you must request it in writing in a real letter with a date. You can also get an private eval, and depending on your insurance, it *may* be covered.

Getting a private eval can be a time consumming process. From start to finish, my DDs took about a year. We went with the very best person in our area, and she had a long wait list.

I highly recommend getting a full eval even if you do decide to homeschool. Partly because that way you'll have a lot more information about what you are dealing with, and partly to keep all paper work up to date for your child incase you need to enroll him in school again.

You also might check into hiring an educational advocate to help get your child what he needs through the school, getting place in an alternative school, etc.
post #5 of 10
We have done both ps and hs. Currently have two dc in school and two homeschooling. Our aspie ds is one of the twins and we pulled him to homeschool again in the middle of fourth grade. I didn't really want to do it. We'd homeschooled all of them before, so I knew it was big job. Of course he is the most difficult of my children. But it was the right thing and it is still going well for us with five months under our belt.

All our children went to school starting three years ago largely because of his special needs that made the whole homeschool picture too much for us. PS was happy and easier for a while but the school was not adequately responding to his needs. And I love their school as schools go and my 2 ydds are happy there. The number one great quality is the very positive energy of everyone there. It's great.

When ds first went they essentially denied he was having any problems. I talked to each teacher about adapting to his needs. As long as he was having a good experience, I was okay. (We still didn't have a formal diagnosis which took us a long time for rather freak waiting list reasons.)

Was the school too positive so they didn't even see problems? IDK. His teachers continued to love him and say he had no significant problems. He was ahead of peers in academic basics, but couldn't complete more than 10% of the simplest paper, left everything blank a great deal of the time (his twin sister was in the same class so I would see exactly what he was expected to do to compare) It can take him hours to write a sentence. Teachers always said he was doing perfectly fine anyway.

Ds had bullying issues that the teachers were missing, talking with them did not help, they simply were not alert enough. Didn't know what I was talking about even though I was hearing about fairly consistent patterns from ds. Now, ds can be extremely hard for other dc to get along with and he could have been instigating with his behaviors as well. But I needed more of a picture of what was happening socially than the teacher having no idea and my son who can't understand or describe social interactions very well.

Ds started having more academic problems in 4th grade. I was unhappy with how the teachers handled it. Still some denial, some weird effort to require him to be more accountable, still not getting any useful services offered.

Ds is 2E and was identified for gifted programming but couldn't even fill out the fun "about me" questionaire for kids entering the the GT program because he doesn't "get" self-reflective questions. He was invited to try out for academic team though he cannot possibly process verbally presented information well enough to participate (he wasn't interested anyhow)...

Ds really enjoyed school, he was well behaved, he didn't acknowledge his own stress, and he was getting very unhappy and stressed and I was the only one ready who could help. He couldn't really identify his own feelings, and didn't exactly want to leave school. But he hasn't wanted to return for a moment now that he is at home. He didn't know he would be happier, but he is.

Ds loves his workbooks. He feels great having workbooks that are two grades ahead. He likes simple. One book for a subject. One step at a time. I drastically reduced his physical writing expectation. We exclusively read out loud for history (mostly he reads to us), we do a mix of things for science including hands-on, we do very little art, he is working to understand some of the breakdown of writing like main ideas and structure--this isn't working well but I have hope... We keep

The biggest plus has been the music. He has a musical gift and affinity, but stopped playing fiddle when he went back to school. The school has a limited music program--no band! He has played daily since he left school, and I love this new area of success for him. Playing music has helped him socially, and I have high hopes it will continue to do so.

I have read the book "Homeschooling the Child With Asperger's" and it was good with a lot of people whose experiences had varied and some long-term perspective. I have a friend with an Aspie son who likes the internet program Time4Learning. It lets him work through basic curriculum on the computer. We didn't end up trying it but I looked at it and did think my ds would like it.

I think the hardest thing for us is that ds is so very difficult to work with and be with. It's a lot of work. It's not always "positive." I have to monitor and support everything he does. It was a relief when he was in school not to deal with his issues all the time. And that has not gone away. We've just made enough peace with that to get by with what turned out to be better than the alternative.

Best wishes. I think it's tough either way, YK.
post #6 of 10
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(We still didn't have a formal diagnosis which took us a long time for rather freak waiting list reasons.)
Part of the reason that I think that anyone homeschooling a sn child should have a solid dx that is at least semi-current is that plunking a formerly homeschooled sn kid into school is a HUGE deal. The school can't do squat without an official dx, and it takes a while to get one.

I think that the real weakness of homeschooling a child on the spectrum is that there isn't any way to work on social development. No one out side the family is attempting to connect with the child on a consistent basis. Other homeschool moms are busy with their own kids. Teachers at classes that you sign the child up for see them for an hour as week and never connect. Kids they see at classes they see an hour a week for 6 weeks and then never again. Kids from homeschool group show up sometimes but then disappear for a month.

Social interactions get more complicated every year, and the range of "normal" activities that I could sign my DD up for decreased every year as her developmental path veered further from the norm.

Further, the kinds of breaks that moms of neuro typical kids get increase each year, as kids spend longer at friends houses, go to birthday parties, start going on overnights, go away to camp. For a child on the spectrum, those things don't happen and instead every year they understand a little more about how different they are.

I understand that in some extreme cases, homeschooling is the best option. But I would highly recommend thoroughly exhausting all other options first, and if you do decide to homeschool, figure out ways for your child to connect with others and to get breaks for yourself.

The reading writing math part is the easy part.
post #7 of 10
Hi well I have been homeschooling my two asd boys for the last four years. Absolutely the best thing we have ever done for them. As for socialising the do more of that now then they ever did in school.
Not only do they mix with kids younger, older and the same age as themselves, they go to the shops and interact with the staff there as well.
So while I understand homeschooling isn't for everyone there are some kids where it is absolutely the best thing for them.
I have no regrets pulling them out of a school system that was failing them.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
I think that the real weakness of homeschooling a child on the spectrum is that there isn't any way to work on social development. No one out side the family is attempting to connect with the child on a consistent basis. Other homeschool moms are busy with their own kids. Teachers at classes that you sign the child up for see them for an hour as week and never connect. Kids they see at classes they see an hour a week for 6 weeks and then never again. Kids from homeschool group show up sometimes but then disappear for a month.

Social interactions get more complicated every year, and the range of "normal" activities that I could sign my DD up for decreased every year as her developmental path veered further from the norm.

Further, the kinds of breaks that moms of neuro typical kids get increase each year, as kids spend longer at friends houses, go to birthday parties, start going on overnights, go away to camp. For a child on the spectrum, those things don't happen and instead every year they understand a little more about how different they are.
This hasn't been our experience at all. We've been homeschooling from the beginning. My 8 year old has high-functioning autism. He plays with his friends in the neighborhood just about every day. I've wanted to disconnect the doorbell since it was being abused so much by kids wanting to play with my son! In addition to that, he has friends who homeschool who he sees fairly frequently. He also plays with kids in the waiting room at his therapies. There's a weekly social skills group that he can join or leave at any time, where he gets to play with his peers while learning appropriate social behaviors.

I also get more of a break as my 8 year old gets older. Thanks to homeschooling, we've had the time to help him practice independence skills. He doesn't need supervision to play with his friends in the neighborhood. He's looking forward to planning his first sleepover. He does day camps thoughout the summer. I wouldn't allow night camps until he was older anyway, so that's not a concern at this time. He's invited to birthday parties all the time.

Our neighborhood schools don't address bullying. We have one neighbor who goes to an out-of-district middle school because it was the only way he could be protected from one bully who terrorized him through elementary school. Another neighbor has started homeschooling because her middle school treated her as the guilty one when her locker was repeatedly broken into and her things stolen. If my son was in those kinds of environments, I have no doubt that he would suffer. And that the bullying would carry over to how he was treated in our neighborhood. But, he's not in school. He encounters mean kids on our street, and he has a safe place to go when things start to get out of hand. I can work with him on negotiating those situations as they happen. And, in our neighborhood, he has best friends who he can hang out with. He does tend to attract and be attracted to other kids with special needs. And that's just fine with me. Maybe we're in a rare and lucky situation to live in an area with so many kids, some of them on the spectrum. Maybe my son's situation is different because he has atypical autism and is an extrovert. In any case, homeschooling is working just fine for us, and my son's social opportunities are better in quality and range than they would be if he attended school.
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post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
Part of the reason that I think that anyone homeschooling a sn child should have a solid dx that is at least semi-current is that plunking a formerly homeschooled sn kid into school is a HUGE deal. The school can't do squat without an official dx, and it takes a while to get one.
We did get a formal dx, but it took some extra time. The school was willing to offer services both before and after the dx but the ones they had available were of limited usefulness. I ended up getting some services privately outside of school instead. Ds was academically ahead and without significant behavior issues, and he could have mainly had altered homework expectations and support for staying organized and completing tasks. Also occupational therapy. They had almost zero help for social skills since it wasn't causing any observable problems in the classroom and is less the focus of schools' official mission IYKWIM.

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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
I think that the real weakness of homeschooling a child on the spectrum is that there isn't any way to work on social development. No one out side the family is attempting to connect with the child on a consistent basis. Other homeschool moms are busy with their own kids. Teachers at classes that you sign the child up for see them for an hour as week and never connect. Kids they see at classes they see an hour a week for 6 weeks and then never again. Kids from homeschool group show up sometimes but then disappear for a month.
There are ways to work on social development. This doesn't mean everyone will be up for doing that or find good solutions. While no ASD parent shouldn't underestimate the social challenges of homeschooling, schools are not necessarily good places to learn social skills either and having special needs doesn't make them so. For a homeschooler, there may or may not be people outside of the family attempting to connect with the child on a regular basis. It's true that it's harder for other parents to get to know your child or to find others who are invested in your child's development. Connections don't develop naturally either inside or outside of school. When my ds originally went to school, I was just glad that he was with trained and experienced teachers rather than other hs parents. It helped a lot at the time. He was better functioning among other seven year olds than when he was three years older and trying to function with other ten year olds.

The school may be full of people, but that doesn't mean that social skills are being developed there. My ds pretended he was going to kiss other boys because it scared them to make them leave him alone, but that is actually a behavior that could endanger him. He was improvising various maladaptive behaviors that the school was not the least bit interested in because these were lunch and recess things and rarely got beyond verbal. These aren't social skills. He didn't catch on to what to do with disapproval from peers--since he was helpless to make them like him and didn't care much whether they did he went ahead and deliberately did things to make them dislike him. For the school the assumption is that most kids will catch on and figure it out during free play times especially, with only certain situations being "managed". In those formal activities I saw ds ignoring the group, missing all instructions, then later being coached toward token participation. There was nothing better about that than the group activities he is involved with now. He wasn't "connecting" with people just because he was seeing them every day. In his third year of ps he could only name one girl who was his friend, and even that was a little tenuous. He still ignores his companions most of the time in every setting unless they will listen to him talk on and on about his interests--new people, well-known people, young, old--and he talks at them all in the exact same way. His therapists have helped him a lot more than the school ever did. And being homeschooled had made it easier to focus on the therapy and just basically come to that as a relaxed and functional human instead of with a list of all the things going poorly with school. School teachers and aides just don't sit down and practice having a simple back-and-forth conversation the way he needs. His therapists do. We only got that by paying for it ourselves.

Sorry to write a book. We've been through a lot. I have been very observant of ds's social needs and what does and doesn't help. School was draining his energy, making him feel terrible about himself, and wasting our time in terms of his progress. I am certain ds was headed toward long-term clinical depression in school. What tiny social benefits there may have been hiding in there just weren't worth it.

Every story is different. We have adapted to things in different ways over time. Being ready to do that as time goes on is really good. I don't think it's fair to say ASD children are always poorly served at home. Nor is parenting always easier when your child is in school--some things are harder. Every situation is different.

OP I apologize for helping sidetrack the subject and hope that reading everyone's different experiences will help you sort out your own unique needs.
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