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With all the press about HFCS changing it's name, I've been reading way too many articles & blogs & opinions about it all. And I have to admit, I'm now confused!?

I understand that all sugars are not equal....but all fructose is equal, right? So if fructose is metabolized differently than glucose & sucrose (in a bad way, leading to CV disease & DM & obesity) then how is honey (high in fructose) any better? Or agave nectar? My gut instinct tells me that anything derived naturally and not contrived out of corn is better. But why? My gut also tells me that sugar is bad, no matter what. Then again, apples are very high in fructose. Hmmm.
post #2 of 9
I think i feel the same way you do. I stay away from any ingredients that don't come about naturally. To me, hfcs and corn-anything(save whole corn) are the worst, right there with chemical sweeteners and anything that sounds like uses the chemical name, like fructose/sucrose/glucose. then is refined sugar, followed very closely by pasteurized honey, then evaporated cane sugar juice, then raw honey. I consider (raw) honey to be a health-promoting food and a cure for many illnesses.

eta: imo all sugars should be used very very sparingly, and high sugar foods(like fruit) go right with evaporated cane sugar juice, to be used sparingly.
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Edited by mommathea - 5/11/11 at 1:09pm
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by koru View Post
With all the press about HFCS changing it's name, I've been reading way too many articles & blogs & opinions about it all. And I have to admit, I'm now confused!?

I understand that all sugars are not equal....but all fructose is equal, right? So if fructose is metabolized differently than glucose & sucrose (in a bad way, leading to CV disease & DM & obesity) then how is honey (high in fructose) any better? Or agave nectar? My gut instinct tells me that anything derived naturally and not contrived out of corn is better. But why? My gut also tells me that sugar is bad, no matter what. Then again, apples are very high in fructose. Hmmm.
Agave Nectar *isn't* any better than HFCS, despite being sold at Whole Foods. It's actually pretty bad for you and is highly processed. I'd stay away from it, personally, and stick with maple syrup or raw honey, and for dry sweeteners stick with as unprocessed as possible (turbinado or sucanant is what I end up using).
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Originally Posted by AllyRae View Post
Agave Nectar *isn't* any better than HFCS, despite being sold at Whole Foods. It's actually pretty bad for you and is highly processed.
That's not necessarily the case. The anti-agave propaganda hit the internets like wildfire and everybody just ate it up without questioning it (or its source!) If you're interested, here is a very thorough examination of the issue. =)
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With all the press about HFCS changing it's name, I've been reading way too many articles & blogs & opinions about it all. And I have to admit, I'm now confused!?

I understand that all sugars are not equal....but all fructose is equal, right? So if fructose is metabolized differently than glucose & sucrose (in a bad way, leading to CV disease & DM & obesity) then how is honey (high in fructose) any better? Or agave nectar? My gut instinct tells me that anything derived naturally and not contrived out of corn is better. But why? My gut also tells me that sugar is bad, no matter what. Then again, apples are very high in fructose. Hmmm.


I agree. all sugar is bad in medium to large doses (much less the extremely large doses many american's get given that HFCS, CS, and sugar are in practically everything). That said, some sugar isn't as bad for you as others. To me, it breaks down to a few things:
-Having something good in it, which often also slightly slows down the metabolisation of sugar/makes it easier on the body (only slightly though. it's still sugar). such as the large amounts of minerals in maple syrup or the enzymes in honey. In an apple, this might be fiber which makes it digest a bit different. It's a whole food though.
-Is it a whole food or is it refined?

I don't think agave is better than HFCS. I don't know for sure (it's so controversial. people love or hate it), but since I have so many much better and tastier sweetners at my disposal, I don't feel a need to really research the issue and find out. Yes it's much much cheaper, but we use sugars so sparingly it's not a big issue, and you can get honey and palm sugar quite cheap if you shop around.

In terms of why something more natural and not chemically derived from corn is better, honestly, my answer is because it's natural. I don't know every little element (not chemical element but like.. peices (enzymes, minerals, other things etc) that's in say, honey, or maple syrup, and maybe there are some that haven't been discovered. Also, to me, food is so much more than the nutrients and the science. Food is also about the energy and the love and the intention. monoculture corn (even if it's organic and gmo free) unnaturally turned into sweetner just isn't what I want to be putting into my body vs sap from a maple which was simply boiled down, or honey from bees. Different intention. Like a pp, I only eat corn in corn form, that is ears of corn, or corn that has simply been dried (or nixtamalized and dried) and milled.

In terms of eating fruit, I don't think you should eat huge amounts of fruit, or rely on it for many nutrients (more veggies less fruit basically.) That said, we sometimes eat lots of fruit in the summer. Which I think it natural and healthy. But 3-4 servings of fruit a day in the winter? I think your better served by increasing your veggies. I eat fruit for the deliciousness and sometimes that means gorging on fruit but more often it's not very much fruit at all. again it's moderation. (though it's more yearly moderation than daily moderation. I eat 85% or more of my years fruit consumption in about 5 months from june to november or so.)
post #7 of 9
Agave is bad, worse than sugar. Stevia and xylitol (derived from birch bark or non-GMO corn) might be a better alternative.
post #8 of 9
The way I understand it, is HFCS is so bad because its a man made sugar. While fructose is just sugar derived from fruit, and corn syrup is derived from corn, HFCS is a wicked combo of both. You have to physically add extra fructose molecules to the corn syrup. And because it is man made and not found in nature, it is similar to trans fats or partially hydrogenated oils in that the body doesnt recognize it and doesnt know what to do with it so it puts it in the closest storage area it can, the gut. Supposedly this is why there is a connection between HFCS as well as trans fat consumption, and belly fat.
Also, Agave is lower glycemic that HFCS so it impacts the blood sugar differently. Honey has amazing anti microbial properties and contains nutrients like a food, tho it will impact blood sugar. Stevia which is 10x sweeter than sugar and xylitol which can be matched cup for cup like sugar are awesome subs. And xylitol doubles up because it fights cavities.
post #9 of 9
I use organic dehydrated cane sugar, maple syrup & honey. Thats it. I avoid HFCS as much as I can, and I'm not a believer in agave personally. I've also not been a fan of the stevia I've tried... even had a stevia plant for a while an just wasn't thrilled with it. I'm a beliver in 'real' and things that have been around for a while. Maple syrup, hone, dehydrated cane juice, they all past the sniff test for me. Agave? HFCS? Not so much. Stevia? about half way between the two. So I stick with what I know and love - maple syrup, honey, real sugar.
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