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Not able to get +HPT but IS pregnant? Anyone else?

post #1 of 17
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I was wondering how many of you had this problem. I had it with my last pregnancy, which sadly ended in miscarriage shortly after finding out. I had been having strong pregnancy symptoms for a week and took around 6 HPTs including one at my OB's office, and two at the ER, and all of them were negative (even the one I took at the ER the night of my blood test)... I went in the ER for kidney pain and increased cramping in my uterus area, they took a urine blood test and then after begging them to do a blood pregnancy test (to measure my hcg levels) before I would let them do a scan (not a cat scan but the other kind of scan) that they wanted to do... they did the blood test and my levels were 46.6! They were confused as to why the pregnancy wasn't showing up in my urine pregnancy tests they ran because the tests they use measure in at 20..... two days later I went in for another blood test and my levels had dropped to 0.5 and I lost my little bean.

I was wondering if anyone else had this problem of a pregnancy not showing up on HPTs and having to fight to get blood tests done.... did you ever have the problem again? Did that make you stop trusting hpt results?

I have read up on the hook effect (which is one reason why hpt results wont show up correct) and someone else told me that it was because "Its due to a difference in kidney enzymes. Your kidneys break things down to be excreted in your urine, including hormones. Some women don't have the same enzyme or the same level of enzyme that would release the HCG into the urine, therefore YES they would be pregnant and still getting negatives. Some people can go an entire pregnancy and never register HCG in their urine. Kind of like if you were to be measuring... ketones. Some people ALWAYS have ketones in their urine, but most people don't and it would indicate dehydration (dehydration affecting the kidneys get it? kidneys control water balance)."

I am curious because I have had a whole bunch of pregnancy related symptoms since my last "period" (which was very different than what my average normal periods are. My normal periods are heavy and dark red with lots of clots, and this one was very light/spotty and bright red and very watery with hardly any clots).... since my "period" happened a few weeks ago I have had constant on again off again cramping in my uterine area, also, this past week I have been so dead tired I can hardly keep my eyes open through the day, I also have been going to bed earlier and sleeping in later so IDK why I am so tired (I have been getting 9-12 hours of sleep). I cant get comfortable at night anymore... I have an increased sense of smell, and an increased sense of taste (my MIL made chili the other night and I was the only one out of the 4 of us that ate it that noticed the one drop of cyan pepper that she put in it). I have taken a few tests over the past two weeks and they are all negative, but I worry still because with my last pregnancy all my hpts were negative too! I don't know if I should bother trusting them anymore. My body (my kidneys in particular) have been through hell since my second pregnancy... during that pregnancy I developed kidney stones (or that's what they said it was even though they couldn't and still cant when the pain comes on, to confirm diagnose kidney stones).... and I have had 6 more stones happen since the delivery of that daughter in November 2009.

I feel as though I am going crazy.

Anyone else out there in the same boat or have you been in the same boat as me???? I know its a rare thing, but it has happened to me and I am afraid it may be happening again.... or will happen again.

(sorry its so long....)

TIA,
Veronica
post #2 of 17
My sister just went through this. She had been testin non stop for weeks, last period was in July. Just found out Monday through blood work! She is over 8 weeks along. Healthy Pregnancy. It does happen
post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by amandasemele View Post
My sister just went through this. She had been testin non stop for weeks, last period was in July. Just found out Monday through blood work! She is over 8 weeks along. Healthy Pregnancy. It does happen
I am glad she finally was able to find out and that everything is alright with her and the baby. I know she must have been going crazy... I know I was back when it happened with my chemical pregnancy and I know I am going crazy now. I have a rough time getting anyone to listen to me... if it weren't for my extreme pain from my stones last April and me begging for a blood test while at the ER then I would have never known the truth, that I was pregnant.

Thank you for your reply.
post #4 of 17
She had gall bladder surgery right after ovulation too! Might be why it didn't come up but 8 weeks is a long time!!
post #5 of 17
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She had gall bladder surgery right after ovulation too! Might be why it didn't come up but 8 weeks is a long time!!
yeah that is... I have talked to some other women on another site I frequent and some have told me that they didnt get a positive hpt until 12 weeks and a couple couldnt get a positive hpt throughout their entire pregnancy! Obviously they were ttc and had blood tests and ultrasounds done and knew they were indeed pregnant... it just blows my mind. I just wish I knew for a fact that my body isnt playing games with me this time and hpts are working for me.... after my last pregnancy I just dont have any faith in them anymore and that scares me... especially when OBs and Midwives put so much faith into getting prenatal care asap. And especaially with how any future pregnancies I have will be high risk because of my past problems with my pregnancies.

(sorry if I am rambling... its late and I am tired lol)
post #6 of 17
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The reason it says it is an update from 4 days ago is because I have been talking about this with other women on another site I use and I have been keeping track of any odd symptoms I have had over the last two weeks.

Update from 4 days ago:
Im still extra exhausted, I have been going to bed all week at 8:30-9 (which is early for me) and sleeping 12 hours and still waking up exhausted like I didnt sleep all night. I have been taking naps every day at least once a day when my girls go down for a nap.... I also noticed I have (sorry if tmi) a lot more milky white creamy discharge ( I have only noticed that when Im about to O or when Im pregnant), today I was mopping the floors and the smell of the cleaning stuff I was using grossed me out so bad I complained the entire time that it was too strong and it smelled gross and my SO told me he couldnt smell a thing (he was laying on the couch and I was mopping right next to him)... and for dinner my MIL made chili and I asked her if she used any different spices because it tasted more peppery and she told me she put a DROP of cyan pepper in it and the taste was SOOOOOOOOOO overpowering.... I couldnt finish my chili... I was the ONLY person that tasted the damn pepper in it! And 4 of us ate the damn thing! Im freaking myself out even more now. lol My MIL kept telling me how weird it was that I was the only person to have noticed the pepper.... I have been cramping too down low.... ugh.

Update from Today:
New symptoms... Along with my heightened sense of smell and taste and my increase in creamy white cm, and my light on again off again cramping and my odd "period", I now have been peeing slightly more than usual (not drinking more than usual and no burning or stinging when I pee - so NOT a UTI), and my other symptom is a dull achey heavy feeling in my uterus area (down near and behind my pubic bone)... I am not sure if I should count this as a symptom or not but I also got into a coughing fit from laughing so much and so hard (my SO tickled me really bad lol) and I almost threw up from coughing (multiple times). If I go off of my last normal period then I would be 5 weeks and 5 days pregnant and due May 16th-ish... I have an appointment monday afternoon to get more bc pills, they do routine pregnancy tests (hpts) and if it comes out negative I am going to explain what happened to me with my chemical pregnancy and ask for a blood test. Im trying not to think about it but with the dull heavy achey feeling I have had all day, its kind of hard to ignore... Im nervous.

Woke up at 3 to nurse my daughter this morning and had the strongest urge to go throw up.... it was a short nursing session to say the least. I managed not to throw up though (thank god) and just peed instead (I had to pee so bad!). I cant wait to see a doctor Monday. I need a blood test so bad. I think that is the only way I will be able to trust any test results. I feel as though I am going crazy because I dont even think about being pregnant or anything until another symptom pops up.... and they are popping up like crazy this past week. ugh.... wish me luck.
post #7 of 17
I wish you tone of luck!!!
As for the prenatal care, I had a lay midwife with my last baby, I didn't even start seeing her for visits til 20 weeks. And everything went great! However I tend to take a laid back approach to everything lol. But I hope you get your bfp soon.
post #8 of 17
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thank you Ill keep you posted.
post #9 of 17
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I was completely ignored at my appointment. They told me that they wouldn't give me a blood test or any test for that matter until I have completely missed more than 2 periods in a row. At that rate (IF I am pregnant) I could very well be 20 weeks along before they take me in to be tested... and my pregnancies are high risk (tons of preterm labor and a history of very high blood pressure, Ive also had a miscarriage and a history of twins in my family - mom was a fraternal twin).... Im so screwed. lol. I guess Im sitting and waiting the next three months out..
post #10 of 17
my mom had something like this when she was PG with me. the DRs kept telling her she was crazy, so she thought she was crazy until 6mths in a friend she had not see in a long time came over and asked my mom if she was pg... my mom said she did not think so... LONG story short... she went back to the DRs and they were SHOCKED when they gave the 'crazy' lady and sound and she had a 6mther in there...

totally not your question. but why are they making you wait so long for a blood test? i can go into my DRs office and ask for one anytime, miss period or not. that is really odd to me that you HAVE to wait... did they say why?

GOOD LUCK!!! fingers crossed for a BFP!!!!!
post #11 of 17
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I had to go to my health department because my insurance got screwed up with my second pregnancy and now my regular OB wont see me until the situation gets resolved and my insurance company pays them.

(that is a long story in and of itself)... I dont know why the health department does it that way. Back in April my OB (when he was seeing me) was ready to send me right away to go get a blood pregnancy test done... I am just afraid of being pregnant and then having a bleeding problem like placenta previa or placental abruption and not ever knowing about it and dying or something (I always think the worst of things lol).

Thank you though for answering me.
post #12 of 17
There has to be a way you can go get a blood test. Just pay out of pocket.(its annoying, but worth it) It sounds like you are pregnant, and judging by what you have said, the sooner you get care the better.
Dont wait for them, just do it yourself.
Btw, is there a way you can get those tests done online?
Good luck!
Maya
ps. a long time ago, i had the opposite experience. To this day i havent been able to figure out what happened. I thought i might be pregnant, and was very worried. I went to the hospital and they did a urine test, and sure enough it was positive. They also did a blood test. It came out negative.
I wasnt pregnant after all....
post #13 of 17
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can I do what tests online?
I am going to look around tomorrow and see where I can get a blood test done and how much it is going to cost me... when I had to go to the ER last April and they did all the lab work we ended up being billed for almost 2k! I am hoping I can find someone that will allow me to get a blood test done soon and avoid having to pay that amount by going to the ER again...

Thank you for all your kindness btw.
post #14 of 17
You should be able to go to an urgent care/walk-in type place and ask for one. I've also heard that labs like Quest Diagnostics let you order the test yourself. And I'd be changing doctors.
post #15 of 17
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Im definitely going to be changing doctors as soon as I find out what is wrong with me.... if it is actually me being pregnant or some other underlying cause for my symptoms.... I am hoping I am pregnant just so I can wave it in their faces (my proof of pregnancy paper).... ugh....

thanks for answering
post #16 of 17
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can I do what tests online?
I am going to look around tomorrow and see where I can get a blood test done and how much it is going to cost me... when I had to go to the ER last April and they did all the lab work we ended up being billed for almost 2k! I am hoping I can find someone that will allow me to get a blood test done soon and avoid having to pay that amount by going to the ER again...

Thank you for all your kindness btw.
you can call any OB (other then the one you 'owe') most will allow you to take come in and ave the test. i would call around and go with the lowest in cost. my fertility center charges 50$ for a one time test.

GOOD LUCK!!!
post #17 of 17
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you can call any OB (other then the one you 'owe') most will allow you to take come in and ave the test. i would call around and go with the lowest in cost. my fertility center charges 50$ for a one time test.

GOOD LUCK!!!
I didnt know that, thank you.
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