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Does your heart bleed for bugs in lucite?

post #1 of 31
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For Christmas I was thinking about getting some kind of small collection of bugs in lucite for DD. She is into collections right now, and already has this box filled with some seashells and rocks that she has accumulated. I wanted to maybe get some kind of 'treasure' box to put those things in and add some other nature-y items.

I was thinking like a spider and a beetle, maybe a butterfly. But, I was looking into this, and it kind of made me sad. Am I being wierd? I think it is cruel...but then I think, they are just bugs, DD will love them! I do think they are really cool.

I should say I hate killing bugs myself. One, because they give me the willies. And two, because it makes me sad. But, I do ask DH to kill them when I am too grossed out and can't think of a way to save them.

DH is away and it probably took me 5 minutes to actualize the death of a nasty silverfish in the tub last night. Normal people could have just smooshed him with a tissue and flushed him down the toilet. That is too personal for me. I decided to turn away while I sprayed him with some bleach. It was awful, I am still sad about it. But, I could not think of any way around killing him. :sad

How do you feel about killing bugs and suspending them in lucite in the name of science?
post #2 of 31
If I could know they were not endangered species... I might be okay with it.
post #3 of 31
no. it is heart breaking in a way that that bug gave its life for no other reason than to look pretty on someone's mantle.
post #4 of 31
The bugs don't bother me as much as, say, the bat does.
post #5 of 31
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Originally Posted by texmati View Post
no. it is heart breaking in a way that that bug gave its life for no other reason than to look pretty on someone's mantle.
That is a good way to put it.

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Originally Posted by Logan's mommy View Post
The bugs don't bother me as much as, say, the bat does.
Yes, It really wasn't untill I saw the bat that I started to question myself.
post #6 of 31
Yeah, that's a little creepy. If it was for scientific study, that's one thing. But just to have for a decoration? I don't know, and I am okay with having mounted deer heads and stuff. At least they were killed for the meat, hopefully.

I want to say that while I understand your aversion to killing bugs, I do think it's a little bit cruel to spray a bug with bleach, which is probably a much slower, and possibly more painful way to die. So while it may seem more personal to you to smash it quickly, it's not really about you, yk? I mean, while it is just a bug, if you are professing to worry about the bug's feelings, but still intend to kill it (which I do, too!), just doing it as quickly and humanely as possible is probably best.
post #7 of 31
I would only be ok with it if they could honestly say the bugs died of natrual(ish) causes before they go to the people who make them.

I`m not a huge fan of killing animals for collections.
post #8 of 31
I am over the phase of my life in which I idealized respect for life to the point of feeling personally pained for the sacrifices of every last little bird and bee. And gladly so. So no, my heart does not bleed.
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by Fuamami View Post
I want to say that while I understand your aversion to killing bugs, I do think it's a little bit cruel to spray a bug with bleach, which is probably a much slower, and possibly more painful way to die. So while it may seem more personal to you to smash it quickly, it's not really about you, yk? I mean, while it is just a bug, if you are professing to worry about the bug's feelings, but still intend to kill it (which I do, too!), just doing it as quickly and humanely as possible is probably best.
Yes, I know. I feel horrible. I am just soooo squeamish and it was so gross. I would feel just as bad smooshing it. But, you are right.
post #10 of 31
I don't know anything about those particular insects, but my fiance pins insects and has a big collection of them. A lot of the ones he has were just insects he found dead already. He puts them in a jar with hot water so the steam loosens their joints and then poses them.
So there's a chance those insects weren't killed just to be put in lucite...

That being said, we're both biologists and see things like that (pinned or otherwise preserved critters) in more of an educational light than "oh, it's just there to look pretty."
post #11 of 31
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I am over the phase of my life in which I idealized respect for life to the point of feeling personally pained for the sacrifices of every last little bird and bee. And gladly so. So no, my heart does not bleed.
post #12 of 31
We saw some at a craft fair last weekend, lady made them herself with bugs from her back yard. Of course, seeing as you have a problem with bugs I can see you not being able to do that, but it may make you feel better if you find somewhere else to purchase them where they were homemade and you can know how/why they died (that they weren't just farmed to be put in the Lucite but were found around the house... already dead or whatnot)
post #13 of 31
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The bugs don't bother me as much as, say, the bat does.
the bat one made me sad.
post #14 of 31
Honestly I can say that dead bugs don't affect me other than I think they're a bit creepy overall.
post #15 of 31
don't care
post #16 of 31
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Honestly I can say that dead bugs don't affect me other than I think they're a bit creepy overall.
Yup. Really wouldn't want any of those in my house.
post #17 of 31
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I am over the phase of my life in which I idealized respect for life to the point of feeling personally pained for the sacrifices of every last little bird and bee. And gladly so. So no, my heart does not bleed.
Yeah, me too.

My only reason for not buying would be that bugs freak me the hell out. Dd1 is into them, though, I'd consider buying her one with the caveat that it has to stay in her room.

At any rate, I found this on their website-

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We do not sell/buy live insects or deal in any protected/endangered flora and fauna species. We are licensed by The Fish & Wildlife Service.
post #18 of 31
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We do not sell/buy live insects or deal in any protected/endangered flora and fauna species. We are licensed by The Fish & Wildlife Service.
So they buy dead insects and bats? From where? I'm' really curious what the process is.
post #19 of 31
well we have a collection of lucite bugs/insects that we got for the boys because I HS them and they love them. It has in a way made them more appreciative of bugs/insects around us (not sure if thats an oxymoron or not) but really they no longer have the desire to capture every bug they see and basically love it to death because they do have the opportunity to see the lucite ones really up close.

I have a heavy science background so im used to see specimens and such so it dosent bother me. I would not however buy any species that is questionable.
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