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Isn't 5 mos a little young for aggression?

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I've posted before about my friend's BYBred yorkie-poo. Today she brought her over to meet my toy poodle for the first time. Honestly, I thought my girl might be a bit defensive of our home. I had planned to introduce them out in the street but the kids opened the front door and she ran out befor eI had a chance to put her on the leash.

Well, my dog was just fine. She sniffed and said hello and was ready to play. I was a bit shocked, because she was a little domineering over the two male fosters I had in the past, and this was her first meeting with another female. But she was on her best behavior.

The other one, OTOH, was quite naughty. The pup is now about 5mo. A month or so ago, I saw her go after my friend when she reached down to take away a RMB. It wasn't just a puppy nip, it was full-on food aggression. Last week at my friend's house, she wanted to be put down, but I couldn't right then and there because the front door was open, so she attacked me. I'm not kidding, there was snarling and growling, and she deliberately bit my hand.

Today, she tried to eat my dog's face off.

Isn't 5mo just a bit young for this type of behavior? I've never in my life met a puppy who wasn't just a sweet little baby. I guess this is what happens when uninformed people mate two random dogs and then sell the puppies at 5wks old just to make a quick buck. The poor little girl was forced to wean early and didn't get enough socialization with her littermates.

Can this be fixed, or is there little hope? I keep thinking of human babies in orphanages who have life-long attachment disorders. They are saying they will put her in puppy training, and try to get her around other dogs more often, but they don't even have money for food and bills right now, so I don't see it happening. I feel so bad because in the back of my mind I had sort of planned to take the puppy when they inevitably got tired of having her, but I just don't feel up to dealing with a new dog attacking my "baby". I just feel really bad right now, because I just know she's going to end up at the pound, and being aggressive, will be put down. Maybe I can call the poodle rescue I used to work with, but otherwise, I see it ending badly for this little girl.
post #2 of 7
5mo is young, though I have seen food aggression as young as 9 weeks and dog-dog aggressionat 12 weeks, so it's not unheard of. The younger the dog is, the worse the prognosis in many cases. Yet another reason BYB dogs can be tough to own.

She really should be seeing a professional given the severity of the issue here. Anyone can hang out their shingle as a trainer, so I'd highly recommend finding a Certified Dog Behavior Counselor (see IAABC.org for a listing) - they are worth the extra cost. She could also consider a vet behaviorist, but those are harder to find.

No book or link is going to solve this problem, and some of the more popular things out there will likely worsen the issue, so the sooner she can get a professional in, the better!

eta: I would encourage them to not try to "expose her to more dogs" on their own. Even small dogs can do a lot of damage and I know very few dog owners who would like to allow their dogs to be used as guinea pigs for aggression training in this manner. Sounds like a really tough situation...
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If they do anything, it'll be the classes at Petsmart. I've seen the woman there throw a GSD pup to the ground and kneel on it to demonstrate how to show a disobedient dog who is boss. I can't imagine how that's going to help this puppy. As it is, right now she's being smacked on the snout whenever she growls or bites.
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I just sent her the link from your other post. Thanks for posting that.
post #5 of 7
No problem. Glad the link was helpful!

The classes at petsmart are around $110 here - our local CDBC charges $150 for an appointment - maybe they can put the puppy class money toward the CDBC??

Physical punishment in class will likely result in a bite history I would guess. Hurts my heart to think about that happening to any dog, but especially puppies!
post #6 of 7
I think food aggression and possession aggression can be seen earlier than 5 months, but general aggression towards humans or other dogs at that age would definitely concern me. If your friend does not get appropriate help with these behaviors, I would not allow her dog to be around me or my dog.
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Oh, no, we've had out first and last playdate, that's for sure! And if hse gets any bigger than 5 lbs, my kids won't be around her either. (They are older and can handle it, trust me, or it would be a definite never)
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