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midnight diaper changes

post #1 of 14
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DS is almost 9 months and has always been fine with diaper changes until about a month ago when he really got mobile. He doesn't want to lay on his back when there are things to do and see! In the daytime I can manage it with toys, songs, and funny faces, but at night he just screams through the whole thing cause he's half-asleep and wanting to nurse on top of not liking getting his diaper changed in the first place.

We cosleep and he nurses all night so I really feel like he needs a change in the middle of the night. That diaper is soaked and so is the first one in the morning.

He does this whether he has just woken up to eat or if he has already eaten and I pop him off before he falls all the way alseep. (About once or twice a month we can actually manage to change him while he stays asleep, but that's just a lucky break, I think.)

I've thought about not changing him, but it just sounds yucky to go 11 or 12 hours with a super soaked diaper. We use cloth though, would a sposie overnight be less yucky?

Any ideas?
post #2 of 14
DS hates being pulled out of bed at night, so we change him on the bed, and if he is especially fussy I nurse him through the change as DH takes off and puts on the new dipe. We use fuzzibunz, so they are pretty easy. Have you tried doubling his soaker, so that the dipe lasts longer? DS sometimes barely wets his diaper, but lately he's been completely soaking it through (and it is doubled).
post #3 of 14
since my LO stopped pooping in the night, i've stopped changing him. we co-sleep and he nurses 2-5 times during the night, which for him is approx. 8pm-7:30am.

so far his skin seems fine, honestly, and i make sure to give him some nakey time at least 15-20 mins a day.

we use prefolds and wool covers, so they are more breathable. i've been thinking if his skin ever seems bothered by the wetness, i'll put a layer of fleece in for nights, b/c i think it would wick the wetness away from the skin...

also, for skin care, we give him body massage 3-5 times a week, coconut and shae butters. and when i do that at night, i put it on extra thick in his diaper area, just for moisture barrier purposes.
post #4 of 14
our dd is a month and some older than yours.. we never change during the night (not a night pooper). we use cloth, too.. we just use pockets and stuff those suckers full. we have doublers, and bg 3.0 with both inserts. those are some super heavy morning diapers but we've only had 2 leaks ever, and i think those were from user failure (not fastened well). for your mattress, i'd add a waterproof sheet/cover under your actual fitted sheet to be safe.
the pockets have that microfiber layer that seems to stay dry, and she's never had skin probs or anything from doing it this way.
i personally get the heebiejeebies from sposies, when i think about the chemicals inside that make them feel dry, but that's just a personal thing for me.
post #5 of 14
We use disposables 24/7- Pampers Cruisers (with the dreaded Dry Max, which has never given us any trouble) and V goes from 9pm-midnight (depending on when we go to bed) to 8-9am without a change, and has had 2 diaper rashes (both very mild, around her anus only) in her life, both of which I think were teething-related.

This isn't uber-praise for disposies, as they are nightmares for many babes, I'm just throwing that out there.
post #6 of 14
We use Goodmammas fitteds overnight.

After DS stopped pooping overnight, I stopped middle-of-the night changes.
post #7 of 14
I use cloth during the day when we're at home, and disposables at night. The pampers ones. They hold a ton! Sometimes I offer DD the potty or change her at night depending on how sleepy we are.
post #8 of 14
I stopped changing nighttime diapers after he stopped pooping at night.

We use prefolds with a doubler and a stay dry liner. It never seems to bother ds (also 9 months). We've used wool covers at night too, but I've never felt there was much of a difference with my boys. So I ususally just stick with our regular covers.
post #9 of 14
I stopped changing in the night around 6 mos. It took a bit to find a dipe that would get my super soaker throygh the night, since hes never been in a sposie.

A Happy Hempy (w stay dry inner) w 2 infant pfs trifolded and a heavy duty doubler under a wool cover. I put him in a pul cover the other night and we had several leaks, so i need to add another doubler to this combo now, rather than relying on the wool to absorb the excess.
post #10 of 14
We do 1-2 changes per night. I just can't imagine leaving DD in a wet dipe.
When she wakes or stirs around looking for my breast, I quickly check and change her if needed. We cosleep and I keep 2 prefolds at the foot of the bed.
I'm pretty quick now, so I check, change and get her on the breast without causing much of a fussing issue.
post #11 of 14
We did EC with DD, so I agree with your feeling that staying in a wet dipe all night is icky.

Speaking as an EC'er, my suggestion would be to try peeing him at night. Since you're already co-sleeping and frequently nursing at night, it's not too tricky to do. When he wakes, simply take off whatever he's wearing for a dipe, and hold him over a bowl or baby potty (kept beside the bed) while you start to nurse. This would be sitting up of course. Once he's peed, you can put the potty back beside the bed (carefully ) and lie back down.

There's a few interesting facts that most western parents aren't aware of, that I didn't know about before learning about EC, that make this a really awesome thing to do.

For instance, most babies don't pee while sleeping. The muscles that control peeing are "turned off" in sleep. You have to at least partially rouse in order for the muscles to wake up enough to relax and pee. As babies get older, and learn that they're expected to simply pee in their pants then go back to sleep, they rouse less and less. But when they're still young, it's quite reliable. So if you get them onto a potty pretty quickly when they just start to stir -- you'll catch the pee and keep the diaper dry!

Another is that babies will usually pee pretty soon after waking, no matter whether they woke up because they had to pee or they were hungry or scared or whatever. Again, because the muscles are 'turned off' while asleep, they'll pee once they wake up. So even if you don't do EC at all during the day, a quick sit on a potty whenever they wake up will save you many, many diapers over time, it's an almost guaranteed 'catch'.

Another is the fact that babies frequently wake up specifically because they have to pee -- it's pretty uncomfortable!! And because we as western parents generally have been led to believe that our babies have no control and even no awareness of the feeling of having to pee, we never consider that as a reason for night-waking. And so, as good, well-intentioned attachment parents, we try to nurse them back to sleep. But it's not nursing they were after (though they'll usually accept it as comfort) -- it's the pressure and discomfort of the need to pee, and then a minute later, it's the discomfort of the wet diaper.

Among moms who EC, a common signal that babe has to pee is popping on and off the breast. This usually signifies that they're not saying NO to nursing (nursing is wonderful, of course they love it!) -- but that there's something else distracting them. I found this all the time when DD would wake at night. I would automatically stick the boob in her mouth, but if she started playing with it or popping off, I'd think "oh, right, maybe she has to pee." A quick potty-tunity, and yup, there it is.

Then, ECing parents frequently find that after the night-time pee, they'll often drift right back to sleep BY THEMSELVES, without needing to nurse! Especially once they're used to the routine and it's not something new and different. They'll rouse just enough to relax and pee, but once done, well DD was sometimes mostly back to sleep again just still sitting on the potty. Now she did still usually need to nurse to fully get back to sleep again, but only a little. It varies from kid to kid. But that was proof enough that she was not waking due to hunger or a need to nurse for comfort.

As for getting them quickly onto the potty, this can be tricky when wearing conventional diapers, but you can do things like wrap them well but not fasten tightly, and especially, don't wear pants or onesies or full-on sleepers. Babylegs or other leggings if it's chilly, otherwise just the diaper. Once we had the nighttime EC routine figured out, DD would usually wear a simple prefold just tucked around her and held in place with a stretchy prefold belt -- I'd just slip the front of the prefold out of the belt, potty, slip it back under the belt, done. She would sleep on a waterproof mat on the bed, too, just in case.

Then we went to just using cloth training pants. This was SO much easier than regular diapers, even during the day. If your goal is just to prevent huge spills when you miss a pee, and not to hold and contain multiple pees before changing the diaper, then all you need is a small, trim trainer, not as absorbent as the mega-diapers many cloth diapers tend to be these days. Plus, as you've discovered, as babies get older they HATE lying down to be changed. But if they can stay standing up, it's not so bad.

The only downside to trainers is in case of poop, of course. But there are trainers that have snap-sides as well, so there's the option to take them off in diaper-style if needed. And those who EC find that poop misses are really rare, it's just the pee to protect. But I'm talking about during the day here -- you're just talking about at night. Most babies (as has been mentioned here) don't poop at night much anymore as they get older, so there shouldn't be a problem with trainers.

Anyway, that's just some thoughts for you to consider from the perspective of an ECer.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by tankgirl73 View Post
Another is the fact that babies frequently wake up specifically because they have to pee -- it's pretty uncomfortable!! And because we as western parents generally have been led to believe that our babies have no control and even no awareness of the feeling of having to pee, we never consider that as a reason for night-waking. And so, as good, well-intentioned attachment parents, we try to nurse them back to sleep. But it's not nursing they were after (though they'll usually accept it as comfort) -- it's the pressure and discomfort of the need to pee, and then a minute later, it's the discomfort of the wet diaper.
At around 4 months (son is 6 months now) I tried going to no night changes (he wears fuzzibuns). Even with the double insert my heavy wetter would wake up early in the morning soaked and the bed, too, I might add. He also developed this kicking problem...it seemed like half way through the night he'd just start doing karate on me and whatever body part was available (usually my bladder!). I think I ran across something on the Mothering Forum that it might be a peeing issue as described by Tankgirl. We went back to changing him at least once, often twice (yes with double inserts and still heavy in the am). The kicking and restlessness has dramatically reduced. I think he was halfway awake and needed to pee but wasn't keen on going in the already soaked diaper. I know as soon as he gets a fresh one on he pees...often with a sigh of relief and then goes back to sleep easily. If anyone has any suggestions on what to add to the diaper to extend it's night life I'd love to hear about it. But I think this is what we are in for until he is night weaned (whenever that happens...).
post #13 of 14
Erin, I'm with you. Unless he's super cranky when he gets up at 3am on the dot to come into my bed from his crib I don't change his disposable diaper. He doesn't poo at night and the shi shi diapers aren't as bad since he likes "big boy" food more than his milk now & he is night weaned.. And Lizzy, LOL on the peeing as soon as he gets a fresh dipe. I've had that a few times where I put the fresh one and it's like he was just waiting for a fresh one to potty in.. or I open it and he starts to shi shi. lol. FYI he's 6 months and some change
post #14 of 14
I don't change at night unless there is poop, or the pee soaks through. (which wakes her up.)
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