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sleeping arrangements in studio w/ twins

post #1 of 11
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We live with my parents. Over the next few weeks, we will be transitioning to the basement which will be set up much like a studio apt. It is lacking a stove so we will go upstairs for most meals. I'd like input on how to arrange our beds.

It is a 200 (?) sq ft space. The bedroom area is about 16 x 16. DC are 2.5. Ds usually starts the night in his bed, and joins me sometime in the night. Dd requires a lot of settling down time before she sleeps. She wants to give up her nap but turns into a cranky mess at 5 pm if she skips it. Ds still needs his nap. They each have their own crib which converts into a toddler bed. I have a full size bed. Ds got out of his crib last week, so we took the rails off. That led to total insanity for bedtime. (they share a room currenty) In addition to a gigantic mess, they were also leaping from one bed to the next. So the rails went back on with lots of discussion about not climbing out. Since they share a room, they feed off of each other and sometimes get very excited for an hour or so after I put them to bed. I remind them to be quiet maybe 1000 times before they go to sleep.

I have never been able to rock them to sleep. We are no longer nursing. We have the same ritual every night they are with me.

Some ideas I had-
-sidecar their cribs on either side of my bed. Hang a curtain separating bedroom space from living area. At their bedtime, I will read or knit in bed while encouraging them to be quiet and stay in their own space.

-keep the sides on their cribs and put them near each other, but hang the curtain separating my bed from theirs. Have nothing in their bed area besides their beds.

-drop their nap, deal with cranky toddlers for a few hours and hope they have an earlier bedtime.

I do look forward to bedtime as it is my personal time. So I can't say I"m keen on laying down with them every night, esp since dd gets wound up when I cosleep with her. (She does all these hilarious things like I pretend to be sleeping and she puts her face an inch from mine and then her feet on my stomach and asks me, "is this comfy, mama?" it's so cute and I always end up cracking up and not being the stern bedtime mother I had intended to be)

x-posted in parenting multiples
post #2 of 11
I have no advice, but you're my hero for being a single mama to twins.
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I have no advice, but you're my hero for being a single mama to twins.
Aww, shucks.
post #4 of 11
hmm. mine are not twins, but are 18 months apart and currently cosleeping. i'm interested in this thread, because i put them to bed by lying between them and waiting for them to fall asleep (and usually falling asleep myself). i mean, we read a few books, then turn out the lights and sing a few songs, but most importantly, there is cuddling. i'm trying to figure out how to move them to their own beds, and how on earth to put two kids to bed at the same time, when i can't cuddle two kids in two beds. maybe i sit between them and rub backs? anyway.

i don't have a ton of ideas since i'm also just trying to figure this out, but i have a question. you said you have the same ritual every night - what is it? maybe writing that out would make it clearer how to transition into a quieter bedtime where they actually go to sleep.

i think the first option (where they are separated by your bed) might be best. if they are near each other, it seems like the silliness would just continue! but maybe not. maybe there is a way to make them sleepier, so that they won't be so silly at bedtime.

transitioning away from the nap is hard!
post #5 of 11
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Doubledutch, our routine is;
5:30 pm ish - dinner
6-7 pm - independent play, quick video, walk around neighborhood or outside time
7 pm - take bath (though it will be shower with detachable wand when we move to basement)
7:30 pm - take vitamins, bedtime stories, small snack
8 pm - brush teeth, potty, diaper change. Put in their beds, hugs and kisses, rub backs, final drink of water and other stall tactics. They like to have a very dim lamp on. I tell them that as long as they stay quiet and whisper and don't jump on the beds, it can stay on. Then I remind them many times to be quiet before I actually turn it off. I know, I know. . . I have the worst follow through when it comes to discipline. I'm a sucker for those little lawyers.

Dd has a really hard time settling down. I have considered some homeopathic meds for calming and sleeplessness. I used to give them some sleepytime or chammomile tea before bed but they have since quit drinking it.
post #6 of 11
ha! they figured out you were trying to drug them.

that sounds like a super awesome routine, and since they are used to going to sleep without you being *right there* i think either set-up could work. which would you rather have? can you have it set up so they are on each side of your bed but NOT lie between them? (so that you can go do whatever you want, on the other side of the curtain.) what if you started having the light on for a set amount of time, like until a (short) CD or tape ends? do they normally fall asleep with it on, or not until after you turn it off? if they are awake until after you turn it off, maybe you can gradually start turning it off earlier and earlier.
post #7 of 11
So, I'm wondering if going to bed earlier would be better?

My son is 20mo and he now goes to bed between 7-7:30pm, and bedtime takes no time at all - it was like the magical cure to all our sleep issues.

Before I moved his bedtime earlier, he took forever to go to sleep, and would do that overtired hyper routine with me.
post #8 of 11
vitamins can be very stimulating. as a general rule, the macrominerals are calming. so we do vitamins in the morning, and cal/mag at night. i highly recommend hyland's calms forte or calms 4 kids- 2 different formulas, one might work better for yours. my kids are 7 and 4, and I still have to lay between them at bedtime! i agree with thyra about an earlier bedtime- when we try to stay up after we're tired we usually rev up our adrenals, and it takes awhile to come down from that. even though i know this, i can't get mine in bed earlier.
post #9 of 11
What about bunk beds with safety rails? I know they're still little, but I bet they'd be able to handle it, especially if you put your DS on the bottom where he could still get out of bed and come to you in the middle of the night.
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vitamins can be very stimulating. as a general rule, the macrominerals are calming. so we do vitamins in the morning, and cal/mag at night. i highly recommend hyland's calms forte or calms 4 kids- 2 different formulas, one might work better for yours. my kids are 7 and 4, and I still have to lay between them at bedtime! i agree with thyra about an earlier bedtime- when we try to stay up after we're tired we usually rev up our adrenals, and it takes awhile to come down from that. even though i know this, i can't get mine in bed earlier.


Which vitamins are you giving?
post #11 of 11
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Which vitamins are you giving?
A multi for dd, immune booster for ds (bc he likes the taste better and has allergies) and a probiotic for both. Though, since hearing it is energizing, we've switched to am for vitamins. Last night I gave calcium/magnesium and valerian. Store was out of calm forte. Ds went to sleep fairly quickly. Dd was still awake in bed for over an hour, but a lot less hyper. I'll work at an earlier bedtime.

Moving day is tomorrow! Dc are at their dad's until the evening. I'll get furniture moved, but won't have a curtain or divider up. It will likely be a slumber party tomorrow night.

I'm sooooooo excited for us to have our own space.

Thanks for brainstorming with me.
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