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post #21 of 28
My mom was a SAHM/housewife *primarily* for her entire adult life. Or so it kind of seemed to me, but in fact she was my father's business partner and worked alongside him in most of the businesses he ran. Not all, because she is disabled (CP), so she didn't do much on the farm when they had one, for example.

I held a few fairly-low-paying but interesting jobs over the years -- armed security, QA at a call center, medical assistant (acting as an RN, probably not legally) at a clinic for disadvantaged youth and brand new immigrants to the US, ESL tutor, etc. Otherwise, I was a SAHM for most of my life.

Then I discovered somewhat accidentally that I could write and edit others' writing, and make a nice living off of it, so my husband became a SAHD for a few years. But then for various reasons (my health, my husband's difficulty with homeschooling), we decided to reverse roles again, and now I'm the SAH parent and he's finishing off the last semester of his degree and will be going back to work early next year.

I never went to college -- or as I like to say, I unschooled college -- but found a lot of opportunities for interesting and rewarding work, anyway. I did consider college and medical school at one point and decided against it because my family matters more to me than my career and it would have been a real hardship on everyone. No regrets.

My DD (6) doesn't seem to have much in the way of gender roles established in her mind and I hope it stays that way. My parents managed to raise me very gender-neutrally and I hope I can do the same. Even my very old, very old-fashioned father (he's a WWII vet) supported the idea of me doing many "typically male" things I thought about doing when I grew up.

As for DD, I'll be happy with whatever she chooses to do with her life. I do hope that if she has a career while she has young children, she will live near DH and I and will let us care for her kids while she's at work instead of sending them to daycare.

Interestingly, she's never expressed a desire to be a SAHM but she is adamant that her kids will be homeschooled or will go to a really great private school. In fact, for the last year or so, her aspiration has been to open her own private school, which she describes as something like a Sudbury school. As for kids, she plans to adopt older (4-6 year old) children from India and enroll them in her school.

I think it's a cool idea and would be thrilled if she really does this, but I know she'll probably change her mind a million times before she grows up.

Before that, she wanted to be a marine biologist, or to hold a bunch of different interesting jobs like her grandpa. He's a WWII vet and was a barber, a vice detective, and owned at least a dozen different businesses -- all successful -- through the years. For a while she wanted to "write articles" like me.

If she decides to "just" be a SAHM, I'd be fine with that, too. Everyone in my family has had kids at an early age (19ish) and it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but I think not everyone is ready at that age... I don't know, maybe it's a product of how people are raised today. Certainly it wasn't that long ago that having children at 16-18 was the norm for women, and I think they did alright as parents.

Of course it's so much better that women today have choices, but I don't think that *obligates* them to choose a career, either. The point is choice. Same with men, SAHDs rock!

So I'd be happy with whatever my DD chooses when she grows up, but I think I would be kind of sad if she put her children in daycare at 6 weeks old...

--K
post #22 of 28
I just wanted to add that my mother was a career women. She had to work for financial reasons, but she also wanted to work, and the job she had, and still has, was her dream job. I wanted to mention this so that people know that my previous post wasn't an example of a woman who worked in a crappy low-paying job, but one of a woman who followed, and realized, her childhood dreams.
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by junie View Post
I think we should encourage our daughters to choose happiness, regardless of where that takes them.
This.
post #24 of 28
I want my girls to be able to support themselves and have a path they can go back to if needed, but if it works out for them to be SAHMs I'm fine with that.

Personally, I'd rather they had kids in their late 20s/early 30s. I had my first when I was 36 and the second when I was 39. I didn't have any problems with pregnancy, and got to have a lot of fun and fritter away a lot of time before kids entered the picture, but now that I have kids I've been sandwiched between taking care of my family and taking care of my parents. My mom had me when she was 38, so she's in her 80s. For almost all of dd1's life and absolutely all of dd2's life my parents have been elderly and ill. My dad died this spring after a long, long time being in poor health and my mom is not doing great either. My MIL is 15 yrs younger and can be so much more active and involved in the kids' lives. They can have sleepovers, etc. That would just be too much for my amost 85 yr old mom. So, I'm fine with them having kids when/if they decide, but selfishly for myself, but also for them I'd hope it would be a little sooner than I did. I've seen first hand what it can be like when you have your child at 38 and then your child has kids around the same time. It's hard. 28 or 30 would be so much better.

If they want to stay home and take care of 'em and they work that out with their partner then I'm all for it. I'd be happy for them to be just about anything that's not too dangerous (not sure about dd1's recent fixation on sky-diving). I think they've seen a variety of examples, and I do some freelance work from home so it's not so bad. I would like to pick up more, though, to set a better example, or at least pick up the house more!! Not setting a great exammple of the "homemaker" either!
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by cheery View Post
Many of us are "full time" moms and have either never had outside careers or let go of them. Some of miss the office, some don't but this is what we chose and we derive profound joy as well as creative and intellectual stimulation from mothering.

What about our daughters? What message do we send them? My dd (age 7) has said almost everything under the sun in response to what she wants to be when she grows up but yesterday we happened to talk about "the future" and she said that she wanted to get married, have a baby and homeschool her children, if they wanted to.

Why did my heart sink? Why do I feel like rushing out and getting biographies of women who have achieved great things in their careers? Why do I not want my dd thinking from now on that she will be doing the same thing I am doing?

What example am I setting...???

help!?!?
Have you read the book Hold On to Your Kids by Dr Neufield (I think that's how you spell his last name)? If not, I'd highly recommend it.

He references studies in which teens were asked to rate the importance of attributes that described their parents and every single one of them rated "how much time my parents spend with me" most important.

Their parents' careers? Came in at the bottom every time.

He points out that kids really do not care what you do, what you wear, how many hobbies you have, how well you cook, clean, bake, multi-task, etc. They just want to know that you're there for them.

I think being happy with the decisions she's made and being as involved as possible in her dc lives are the best gifts a mom can give her children.

There are plenty of women who grow up to have successful careers whose own mothers stayed home with them. IMO the goal is to let them make their own decisions that will lead them to a happy, fulfilled adult life.

HTH!
post #26 of 28
I'm afraid that my daughters won't be able to find supportive, faithful husbands who will want/ let them SAH and homeschool. It seems like such men are rather rare!

I definitely am encouraging them to have a career, not to date seriously (i.e. looking for marriage) until they are out of college. My hope is that they can SAH and homeschool if their heart tells them too, but if it doesn't or if they have an unsupportive husband, they will have a solid education to fall back on.

My husband wants me to SAH and he supports HSing but he tells me most of the guys he works with don't understand him-- their wives work and many of the men are unfaithful . It just give me dim hope for my girls. Sorry to be a pessimist!
post #27 of 28
They are out there! I've got one of them. I think you just have to travel in the right circles... if she starts dating other homeschooled boys, they're more likely to support homeschooling when they're older. And I would hope that an intelligent man married to a woman that he loves and respects who was homeschooled herself would recognize that it must be a good thing.

But I agree there's a lot of duds out there. I really think there are lots of great guys though, you just have to avoid the 'usual' dating places.

My hubby hadn't particularly or consciously thought about homeschooling or attachment parenting etc, before we got together. But usually when I'd talk to him about something he'd just say "well, yeah, isn't that just common sense?" He was so nicely un-spoiled by popular culture, I guess primarily because he's an introvert and avoided the usual social circles -- he's a science geek.

And my brother and his wife (she's another MDC mama) are also total attachment parents and radical unschoolers to boot... I never would have thunk it when we were growing up! My youngest brother and his wife are childless, but they seem to agree with the principles as well.

Maybe the trick is to go for the geeks rather than the jocks... They'll tend to be more swayed by good research, anthropological studies, and independent thought rather than just going with the masses.
post #28 of 28
My 7yo dd has said that she wants to get married, have kids and homeschool them too. She has also said that she wants to be a doula and a midwife. Nothing about that bothers me. She knows that there are all different career choices out there and those are the ones that she's interested in right now.
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