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post #81 of 116
I cannot tell you how much I have cringed reading this post. I worked ladies shoes for 5 years, and the potential damage in what they are doing to this child is unbelievable and *may* result in deformation and a need for corrective surgery down the road (not to mention a lifetime of foot issues). This is serious and not a case to mind your own business. If I recall correctly, you stated it was the GFIL that agreed the shoes were too small? Take him aside and tell him the damages that can come from this and ask him if he'd be willing to do something about it like "misplacing" one of the shoes for a while. It really sounds like the issue is the GMIL and the FIL goes with what his mom says. What a terrible situation!
post #82 of 116
He's 2 years old, right? That's the age that kids love rubber boots... he could even put them on himself, and they're pretty cheap. You could get some colourful ones that would appeal to him. If he has footwear he'll willingly get into, the adults might figure out that it's a lot more convenient for them, too! I don't know that lying about losing the ill-fitting shoes is a good idea, though.
post #83 of 116
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update

nak- sorry for weird grammar and spelling errors!

So today came. I had fully expected to see my DN in the same shoes. He wasn't!! He was in one of the pairs of Air Jordans They were still too small, but not anywhere near as small as the other shoes.

They might now be "getting" the fact that his shoes were too small... but they did send him in shoes that were still not the right size. I think this might have been an honest mistake though- they were bigger than the original shoes!

I do have one complaint about these shoes though- the soles are like an inch thick and don't flex a bit- he was tripping over himself all day! I might get a pair of shoes that flexes a bit more and are easier to walk in for him, if I am able... it's really hard to deal with him tripping and falling every 5 minutes (even if he's not getting really hurt) and have two other children at the same time.

But yay they put him in different shoes! I don't know if it was all of the times I brought it up, or if it's because they matched his outfit (red and black shoes and red and black track suit) but they were bigger and a step in the right direction (I hope).

Should I mind my own business or should I mention to the parents the fact that these shoes were too small too? My MIL put DN in the car and I felt his toes and his toes were right up agains the end of the shoe (without him bearing weight on them). Not a smidge of wiggle room- she insisted he had room to grow, my DH felt the shoes and agreed with me that they were too small.
post #84 of 116
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
They might now be "getting" the fact that his shoes were too small... but they did send him in shoes that were still not the right size. I think this might have been an honest mistake though- they were bigger than the original shoes!

I do have one complaint about these shoes though- the soles are like an inch thick and don't flex a bit- he was tripping over himself all day! I might get a pair of shoes that flexes a bit more and are easier to walk in for him, if I am able... it's really hard to deal with him tripping and falling every 5 minutes (even if he's not getting really hurt) and have two other children at the same time.
This really sounds like they are following the old "snug shoes that provide support" philosophy. I'm not saying it's a good philosophy, but it was the prevailing way of thinking 40 years ago. When DS first started walking, many older shoe store people tried to convince me to buy DS very stiff hard soled boots that laced up tightly. My mom, who came along on many of those trips commented that those were the types of shoes she was told to use for us (I have bunions and curled up toes in case you're wondering, and I've never really been a high heel wearer.)
post #85 of 116
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His mom just turned 30, so I don't think it's the "old school" way of doing things. She was born and raised here.

The Jordans are really a fashion trend, extremely popular amongst highschoolers and those in their early 20s. My husband has two pairs *insert eyeroll here*. I find that the childrens shoes have almost the same thickness of soles that the adult sized shoes have- it's weird! I know because DH had tried to convince me to buy a pair for DD. No thanks!

These are what DN had on, and you can see how thick the sole is. I don't know how adults even walk in those!
post #86 of 116
I find that most baby shoes have the huge soles. I can't stand them. I don't know how the makers can think a baby could even walk with those things that must feel like 10lb weights on their feet.
post #87 of 116
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
His mom just turned 30, so I don't think it's the "old school" way of doing things. She was born and raised here.
If she never researched this herself, and is just listening to older shoe sales people or parents'/grandparents' opinions, then she would be following the old way of thinking even though she isn't old. Considering that GMIL took him to the pediatrician with you instead of mom going, I could see her just trusting the GPIL about how shoe are supposed to fit.

I really think this needs to be addressed at a philosophical level, as opposed to a they just need to be made aware of the problem level. You have pointed the problem out, they have seen it, and disagree that it is a problem.

If you could talk to the mother about the GPIL having outdated information on foot development, I think you'll get much further than if you treat it as something they just need to be made aware of.
post #88 of 116
Or approach it as you want to help the parents give the GPILs a clue. "I know it's a nuisance to argue with your parents about anything, but have you seen how messed up feet turn out in tight shoes?"

Oh, and since it's fall go get him a pair of boots that fit. For all those puddles at the zoo, y'know? "Oh, we'd better take along his boots too!" if he isn't wearing them when you go to take him to gym/zoo.

And then winter boots when it's a bit closer and you have an idea of his foot size.
post #89 of 116
You could say something to the effect (to his mom) of "Wow good thing you moved up when you did. Those shoes are so cute and they just barely fit. it would have been a shame if you missed the window all together on those. Their feet grow so fast at this age. dd zipped through 4 sizes in about a year. I was beginning to worry she would never slow down! " you aren't telling her they are too small but you are giving her a heads up that his feet grow fast and these are not going to last long.

another option...buy an identical pair a size up.....

I am feel old knowing that air jordans are making a comeback.
post #90 of 116
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I am feel old knowing that air jordans are making a comeback.
Same here! I'm like, "Really, they're all the rage? Is it 1985?" Everything old is new again.
post #91 of 116
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I have bunions
I have a bunion and I was amazed to learn that they have actually not been scientifically proven to be correlated with any particular shoe type, as they occur among people that don't even wear shoes.

OP, I dunno. I think at this point I'd be so thrilled they did something about it I wouldn't want to push it. I would just be like, "He seems to LOVE his new shoes!"

Re: Tripping: he's probably re-learning how to walk, poor little guy.

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Oh, and since it's fall go get him a pair of boots that fit. For all those puddles at the zoo, y'know? "Oh, we'd better take along his boots too!" if he isn't wearing them when you go to take him to gym/zoo.
I agree with this. Just buy him the next size up boots and say, "Well, we were there and the shoe store guy agreed to size all the kids, so I thought, what the hey. I thought they were bigger than the shoes he has, but sure enough, he showed me the numbers. My how their feet grow! What are you feeding this boy? LOL!"
post #92 of 116
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another option...buy an identical pair a size up.....
This is exactly what I would do! Buy the exact same thing, a size up, and never say a word. If he's just been wearing them for a day or two they won't likely notice they are a touch bigger.
post #93 of 116
oh my those shoes are hideous, lol. Weren't Jordans popular about 15 years ago or so...when my big brother was in high school? lol. The teens (and kids...and me) around here are into the converse all stars. much cuter (and an older flashback, lol). Sorry, that was all totally OT.
post #94 of 116
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oh my those shoes are hideous, lol. Weren't Jordans popular about 15 years ago or so...when my big brother was in high school? lol. The teens (and kids...and me) around here are into the converse all stars. much cuter (and an older flashback, lol). Sorry, that was all totally OT.
DH & I LOVE our converse! We were of the "punk/grunge/skater-ish" group in high school, and those went along with it. Unfortunately, I have really wide feet so they don't work for me DH is overweight and says his feet look too fat and frumpy in them. So I guess Jordans are better for him.

I think they're ugly too
post #95 of 116
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Oh, and back to the topic ...

I was able to tell DNs father how adorable his shoes were and yadda yadda and that "hopefully he doesn't outgrow them too soon, but if he does there are plenty of other cute Jordans in xyz store etc etc".

I'm happy winter is coming up, because I don't see them getting him boots. I know that will be on me, likely. He was walking last winter but he was wearing the same shoes that were extremely small- they just didn't let him walk in the snow.
post #96 of 116
Just a little off topic note....the converse one stars at target are just as cute as the all star chucks but cheaper and WIDER!! And they are just as high quality as well. Neither my dd or I can wear the all stars but the ones at Target fit us fine (as a matter of fact I am on my way to get her pair for her birthday...shhhhh! Don't tell her. and I will make sure they are the right size )
post #97 of 116
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and I will make sure they are the right size )


thanks for the heads up about the one stars though!
post #98 of 116
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Originally Posted by lilyka View Post
You could say something to the effect (to his mom) of "Wow good thing you moved up when you did. Those shoes are so cute and they just barely fit. it would have been a shame if you missed the window all together on those. Their feet grow so fast at this age. dd zipped through 4 sizes in about a year. I was beginning to worry she would never slow down! " you aren't telling her they are too small but you are giving her a heads up that his feet grow fast and these are not going to last long.

another option...buy an identical pair a size up.....

I am feel old knowing that air jordans are making a comeback.
ITA w/ lilyka and EdnaMarie!


I'm glad this seems to be working out.
post #99 of 116
I haven't read all the replies but....

I would trace his foot on a piece of paper and then trace the shoe next to that to compare. You can show this to the grandmother because it will be VERY obvious the difference between the two.
post #100 of 116
I am very happy to hear that they put some bigger shoes on him. However I don't know anyone who buys their kids Jordans that are snug at the tiem of purchase. Jordans are expensive. when I buy them, I get them as big as I can get away so they will last a long time.

That being said, my ds has three pairs of jordans and a pair of timberlands (three out of the four were hand me downs, but still--they are nice shoes). If I dress him to go out and he is wearing his jordans THAT FIT or are close to fitting, and someone thinks the sole is too thick for him and changes him into some kmart sneakers, we are going to have big, big problems. the kmart sneakers are for backyard romping. when he goes out, the nice clothes/shoes come out --- for a reason. I would find it incredibly rude if someone were to take his nice clothes or sheos off and dress him in cheap crap just because they thought it was more comfortable. ooooh, I would be mad.
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