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3.5 year old picked on by older kids at playgroup

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I'm just wondering how I should have handled this situation. I realize it is probably not a Big Deal and that kids do these things sometimes. The issue is really how I could handle it better.
We went to our first playgroup with this particular parenting group last week. All of the kids, except two that were too young to even care much about playing with the other kids, were older than my son. This was an afternoon playgroup and I am pretty sure all of them had been at school all day, so they were probably tired. I could tell early on that my son was not quite fitting in, possibly due to his age or the fact that he was new or both things. He was trying and having fun though so it didn't seem like a big deal. I was busy chasing my 1 year old to focus too much on it anyway.
At one point, he came to me while I was sitting with the other moms and said, "Those guys poked me with a stick!" Not really in an upset way, but obviously it was important enough to tell me. I just made sure he was OK and told him he could play near me with his brother if he wanted, but he said that he wanted to continue playing with the other children. I tried to keep a closer eye on him after that and he was still very obviously being left out and not quite fitting in, but he seemed happy. They were also playing pretty aggressively. More like half-playing, if you know what I mean.
On the ride home he kept talking about being poked and about how those boys "accidentally thought [he] was a really, really bad BAD guy." Actually he has talked about this for several days now, though a little less each day. He has said that one kid kept saying, "I'M GOING TO GET YOU!!" He also keeps assuring me that they were "just playing" but the way he says it sounds more like the half-playing I mentioned above. I don't think he views it as him being left out or anything. So far I have mostly just listened. I have told him that maybe they were tired from being at school all day and grumpy from being tired and then talked about how sometimes we do things we shouldn't when we are grumpy.
All right, so my questions are: What else could I have done at the playgroup? What else could I say to him afterward? What should I teach him to do if he finds himself in that kind of situation again? And if you can think of anything else that would be helpful feel free to add it!
I don't want to make this TOO long but here is some background if this will help you answer.
My son is very cautious and pretty shy. He can play with other kids but he has a hard time talking. When he does talk, he does so very quietly. Up until the past few months, he would never play on the playground without me up there as well. In fact, he went through a period where he didn't even want to do that and we would just sit on a bench watching everyone else play. He always seemed just fine with it and never acted like he felt he was missing something. He's never played with any particular child or children on a regular basis, so he does not have much experience in interacting with them. With all that said, he has been blossoming a ton this past year. He has tried so many new things even though he was scared, whereas before he was too scared to even try.
Any talking to him would have to be very, very calm (he is upset easily by these kinds of things--he would be especially upset if I tried to change it from the kids "just playing" etc) but direct enough that he could understand. I don't want him to think that those kids were being horrible because I'm assuming they weren't, but I also don't want him to think it is OK for people to hurt him or for him to hurt other people. And I want to give him the tools to handle those kinds of situations as easily as one can because I seriously do NOT have those tools. Also, since he doesn't talk much/talks so quietly, I'm not sure telling him to say something to someone when they hurt him will work right now. It could help in the future though.
And something about me which I guess will explain why I am having a hard time. I have social anxiety/generalized anxiety (so scared even posting this haha) and have always had similar issues. A lot of my earliest memories are of bad social interactions, of feeling like everyone hated me or thought I was stupid, etc etc. I clearly remember feeling excluded even when perhaps I wasn't or when I could have just tried a little more and been included (who knows! but my mom does claim this was the case). I also used to worry so much about my little brother being picked on that I would make myself physically ill and this stuff is bringing up memories and feelings of that. OK, so those are MY issues. I really do not want to place those on him because I truly don't think he is THAT upset by all of it. I'm also terrified of passing on my fears to him, haha. So I feel frozen. I feel like no matter what I say, "Oh no!!! It's happening!! No one will like him/understand him because he's quiet and weird just like me!! I've RUINED him!!!" and so on is going to come through.
All of that (and more, I assure you haha) from a little stick poke!
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OK, so those are MY issues. I really do not want to place those on him because I truly don't think he is THAT upset by all of it. I'm also terrified of passing on my fears to him, haha. So I feel frozen. I feel like no matter what I say, "Oh no!!! It's happening!! No one will like him/understand him because he's quiet and weird just like me!! I've RUINED him!!!" and so on is going to come through.
Just subscribing for ideas because we're dealing with something similar (and similarly Not A Big Deal in the grand scheme of things), and the above is exactly how I feel too. I don't want to say too little, but I don't want to say too much and shine a spotlight on something that might not be bothering DS that much (the thing he brought up to me last night is other kids saying, "[DS] is a girl" when he colors with a pink crayon at school).

Anyway, I hope you get some answers, and I'll be reading with interest.
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My child is three and I think big kids make a big impression on them. So it's normal for him to be processing it in that way. Like, "Wow, I've never seen kids play like that. I wonder what it all meant."

I'm not sure I'm the best mom to answer this since I'm pretty awkward, but essentially I tell my child something along the lines of, "Yeah, that was different, wasn't it? Big kids play different games than small children like you. Sometimes more serious games. That's okay for them. I like playing fun games. What about you?"

Then she might tell me she likes playing tag or whatever and I promise we'll play tag together next time, or we'll find some other small children to play nice, small-children games with her. That usually makes her feel better. Like, it happened, it was real, it was their issue, not hers, it's okay that she didn't want to be a part of it, the park is still fun.

That allows her to separate from things that she was a part of but might not be ready for yet. She doesn't feel she has to come to terms with it.

I hope that helps. We're at the park a lot and it seems only the parents of very excitable children with swords let them go out on their own, LOL!
post #4 of 7
I'd keep a closer eye on things if there is a next time in case the older kids were trying to make him stop following them or something. That kind of thing can escalate because the older kids get frustrated and all the while your ds might still think they are playing.
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I'd keep a closer eye on things if there is a next time in case the older kids were trying to make him stop following them or something. That kind of thing can escalate because the older kids get frustrated and all the while your ds might still think they are playing.
That's a good point. I have noticed my son gets in that situation at the park sometimes, usually just with one other kid. It will be hard for me to explain that none of the kids there want to play with him. But I guess some things just have to be done! And maybe I'll just have to act really silly so he thinks I will be more fun to play with anyway, hah.
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My child is three and I think big kids make a big impression on them. So it's normal for him to be processing it in that way. Like, "Wow, I've never seen kids play like that. I wonder what it all meant."

I'm not sure I'm the best mom to answer this since I'm pretty awkward, but essentially I tell my child something along the lines of, "Yeah, that was different, wasn't it? Big kids play different games than small children like you. Sometimes more serious games. That's okay for them. I like playing fun games. What about you?"

Then she might tell me she likes playing tag or whatever and I promise we'll play tag together next time, or we'll find some other small children to play nice, small-children games with her. That usually makes her feel better. Like, it happened, it was real, it was their issue, not hers, it's okay that she didn't want to be a part of it, the park is still fun.

That allows her to separate from things that she was a part of but might not be ready for yet. She doesn't feel she has to come to terms with it.

I hope that helps. We're at the park a lot and it seems only the parents of very excitable children with swords let them go out on their own, LOL!
I'll try some of this. Yeah, my son loooves bigger kids and usually it's great. I think these kids were just exhausted or maybe they had a bad day at school. One of them also pushed my one year old over, eek.
I didn't realize this before but I think one thing I was having a hard time with was that it seemed like he DID want to be a part of their games. I don't know!
I feel less anxiety around this whole situation after writing out my thoughts so maybe I'll just try this playgroup again with people's suggestions in mind and see what happens. My kids may just be too young for this group.
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I think one thing I was having a hard time with was that it seemed like he DID want to be a part of their games
Yes, they want to be part of the older kids' games, in theory, but that doesn't mean they want to be a part of all that involves. That happens to all of us, I think. We realize too late we're in over our heads.

I didn't realize these kids were the substance of the playgroup. I think I agree with you--this may not be the ideal group for your children. Of course we can't always find a group in which our children are in the middle of the age spread but like you that's what I'd seek out.
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