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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
i'm feeling too overwhelmed to re write everything so here are some excerpts of what I've sent to our homeopath.

Background first: dd is 7 months, born by c-section, they thought she ahd a blood infectiona t birth which turned out to be a contaminated test but she got days of iv antibiotics. I ahd more anti-biotics for mastitis at 5 weeks pp. Then we started working with our homeopath. I got thrush after the anti-biotics but she never had signs of it, it took 6 weeks to clear and I almost quit bf'ing. I did take probiotics. Gave some infant ones to her and she screamed in utte rpain within 2 hours and couldn't calm down it was awful

since birth we have had to *bounce * dd to sleep ina sling/ergo for nearly every nap and before bed (on a yoga ball). When she was little she'd flail, startle, and I could hear what sounded like reflux, laying her down made it hard for her to sleep. she lays down most of the night with me now no real prob, I think between craiosacral and homeopathy the relfux has stopped. She wakes a lot at night. When she was littler she ahd intense gas (lke huge farts and like 20 in a row that made it hard to sleep and we'd have to gently squeeze her legs to tummy to release them.sometimes she cried, her tummy was had, sometime sthey smelled) She seemed unhappy for the first 5 months most of the time. she arched her back while nursing etc.

at just over five months she crawled, and we got a good remedy that helped us both calm down and things were better for a while...we also asa family went on a "cleanse" where we ahd little to no dairy and way less wheat shortly after the crawling. she got happier and easier for a while..but still bouncing bouncing bouncing. 6 hours a day or so.

Then this past cycle (like cycle 4 for me post baby?) I craved dairy soo bad...I overinduldged in dairya nd wheat every day. Dd got sick and ahd teeth comign througj..she got rash/fever for days, I got horrendous cramps during my period which I was hoping were gone (I have endo metriosis which they removed some stuff during the c-section, I didn;t know prior to that)

now dd went to a cranio appt with me and she's been several times. because she;s so active it was ahrd for our craino to "get in there" and she was only able to partiallya djust her, she is coming to our house today during dd's nap to try to finish it. Since her adjustment she had a very very green liquidy poop (like wheatgrass color sour smell) and she had nothign green to eat at all, and I can;t see a fore-hindmilk inbalance all of a sudden...then she had dairhea, and some mucusy stuff, then she didnt poop for three days. We ec and after 2 I get worried, she has been constipated once before, but not like this..so she started crying when trying to go, then passed little hard "pebbles" some slightly greenish-greyish. Then there was blood. Took ehr to doc, he said an anal fissure and give her glycerine suppositories and prune juice. Have been doignt hat. She screams in pain and fear when we try to get the (warmed up) suppositores in and even when in all the way she pushes them out again! She is still passing hard tiny bricks and crawls into mya rms and cries every time she needs to go. She won't go when I hold her over the toilet and arcnhes her back so I know it;s bad.

I am worried about her. And Ir eally feel like more is going on with both of us.

I could write a book about it all, really. I also have chronically infected tonsils that nothing has worked on, been to ND's, and MD's alike, tried peroxide followed by probiotics swabbed on them, full ED for 9 months with no sugar/dairy/wheat/gluten (I was having other crazy symptoms of wheat intolereance at the time and then it seemed I could have it again, this was sveral years ago) herbs, no one will remove them cause it';s not strep. I just live with it, coughing up pus every week, it smells awful and when I get run down they get worse. After I ahd mono they were constantly swollen. I get migraines, and just feel mroe tired than most people at 24 should. After the mono for years I had to sleep till noon every day and ahd no energy but working at a health food store I did tons of cleanses and supplements and felt a lot better...

I also recently foudn out my aunt has celiacs and dairy allergy and my mom has "IBS" and dairy intolerance. My sister too...

help me put the puzzle together...suggest directiosn for me, share stories.
dd is "on" all the time truly a "high needs" and "intense" babe in so many ways but I feel some of her intensity is not just her "nature" my crainiosacral therapist said she felt an "obstruction" in my bowel even though I haven't really been constipated since the c-section and she asked me (people say she';s pretty intuitive) if there are foods I know I need to stay away from..which is weird cause Iw as thinking after the cramping dairy and wheat.
oh man this is long. I just feel lost, overwhelmed really concerned about dd (she eats fruit and veg and mainly has bm, why so much digestive stuff?) please help me think about what to try/do!

I ahve cut ut gluten and dairy to see if that helps./..
oh and during pg the naturpath said my blood tests showed elevated white blood cells like an infection but didn't really get it when I mentioend my tonsils...
post #2 of 21
Well, sounds like getting completely off all gluten and dairy is definitely the first step. Including supps - many probiotics are grown on dairy, that may have been why your little one reacted so strongly (many probiotics also have FOS/inulin, which often causes bad reactions as well).

A good dairy free probiotic for both of you is probably a good idea.

I'd also do Epsom salts baths, that will help your LO with her constipation. I personally wouldn't do prune juice, for some little ones, that makes the problem worse (including mine).

I'd suspect if going gluten & dairy free didn't completely help in the past, you're reacting to other foods as well - I'd try taking out soy and corn next, those are the other two top intolerances.

And I'd support methylation - many of your symptoms are signs your body's immune responses aren't well supported, and methylation is key to that. Basic methylation supports - methyl B12 sublinguals or drops, folate + folinic acid, 200mcg/day (you can get both from Thorne, I get them on iherb.com) - you only need about 1/4 capsule of each a day. Go very slow with these with a nursling, especially if adding them makes you feel worse (meaning you are detoxing).
post #3 of 21
Do you have root canals?

Ditto high strength probiotic for both of you. Which one did she react to?

I would consider colloidal silver for tonsils, like a 10 day course of spraying Source Naturals spray on them maybe 2 or 3x per day? Iodine is also terrific for this type of infection, a type that that can be used for ingestion such as Iosol or Lugols, but not sure about the effect it would have on your nursling.
post #4 of 21
I would do bone broths I would not do ferments if she is so sensitive.
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 

corn?? this may be TMI

yes, I have one root canal..done at age 14... I also had my first tonsil episode right after getting my wisdom teeth out and taking antibiotics for a low grade infection cause by impacted wisdom teeth.. the first strong signs of problems with dairy and wheat/gluten came in the weeks following that (bloated hard stomach intense brain fog within an hour oif eatign bread etc)

so..I finally got the suppository in long enough and dd was able to poop, with mucdh crying and squirming...first half the suppository fell out and two large blobs of bubbly muscusy white-yellowish stuff. Then she did more and it was hard again, with some mucus and then some regular looking stuff (breastmilk colour, mroe liquid etc) but when I dumped her potty in the toilet I saw quite a few whole and half corn kernels with mucus in the harder stool...what does this mean? She has had corn only a few times, once or twice mashed up with another veg (raw) and I didn't notice a reaction like this but some of her sleeplessness etc may have been connected...it happens so mmuch it's ahrd to attribute it to one thing. Then she had it...corn on the cob a very small 1/3 cob organic local etc like ...I want to say clsoe to two weeks ago??

other things I thought of when talking to my friend: she gets hyper the few times she's had wheat she soon learned she liekd it and went crazy wanting bread or crackers if she saw me with them, different than with other foods. She is super duper sensitive to light, movement, noises both with sleep and in general. Evem of I laugh gently she startles and crawls frantically to me and often cries. She freaks out sitting in ehr highchair or carseat..it has always been this way but recently got worse.

When we had cut back dairy and wheat she had started to say "mama" and "dada" and sign "milk" quite clearly but since I sytarted eating more wheat and dairy she stopped...mayber this is coincidence, I'm not too worried as she is very little.

the probiotics were Udo's and I checked the lasbel just now anbd they say they may contain traces of milk powder etc. The ones I was taking do have FOS

colloidal silver -i did try this once but may have not been 10 days? Is there any prob with doignt his while nursing?????????

dd is now burping a ton and having refluxy sounds after the last poop...

my friend has a LO who is older now and he seems very simialr to dd...they put him on the GAPS (??) diet and ti helped, does anyone know about this?

I just really feel that more is going on with her and she is uncomfortable almost constantly in some way screaming the painful scream quite often etc.

Oh..she also has these random fevers that are low grade and come and go and always seems over hot...and rashes on ehr face that come and go. It went away when we went dairy free for that month now that I think about it! Ha writing this is helpful!

I just want her to be happy/healthy and it seems she has had little of that feeling of ease in her short life.

hrm..she also ahd a spinal tap when they thought she had the blood infection, dunno what all of this is relevant but they are all pieces in our puzzle.
post #6 of 21
Likely she just can't digest corn - 7mo is really young for that.

I'd get off all dairy and gluten - it sounds like both of you react, and you need to stay off it (probably permanently, but at least until you are done nursing her).

FOS is hard on fragile guts, my DS reacted very badly to it. I'd find a FOS free, dairy free probiotic, I believe Kirkman Labs makes an infant one.

I'd make changes a few at a time, or you won't know what works. Everything you describe could be caused just by dairy & gluten, so I'd get those out first, and see where you are in a month. You might also take out soy and corn, just to cover the top 4. Write down everything you see now (sleep, behaviorally, skin, GI, etc and track it - in case you need motivation to keep ALL gluten and dairy out ).

I wouldn't do colloidal silver with a nursling, but I have a child that was extremely prone to metals toxicity, so that may color my views.

Light sensitivity, sound sensitivity, sleep issues - all that suggests she might benefit from magnesium, so take oral mag yourself and Epsom salts baths for both of you.
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mamafish9 View Post
Likely she just can't digest corn - 7mo is really young for that.

would it cause this much GI distress? Or is something else likely going on?

I'd get off all dairy and gluten - it sounds like both of you react, and you need to stay off it (probably permanently, but at least until you are done nursing her).
sigh. what I was thinking too...I'm guessing goats milk and such is a no go? do most people find they can;t do any animal dairy? I guess I'll wait a few months and test it.

FOS is hard on fragile guts, my DS reacted very badly to it. I'd find a FOS free, dairy free probiotic, I believe Kirkman Labs makes an infant one.

I'd make changes a few at a time, or you won't know what works. good thought and we are getting treated by multiple practitioners already so I don't want to get to crazyEverything you describe could be caused just by dairy & gluten, so I'd get those out first, and see where you are in a month. You might also take out soy and corn, just to cover the top 4. Write down everything you see now (sleep, behaviorally, skin, GI, etc and track it - in case you need motivation to keep ALL gluten and dairy out ).I'm keeping a detailed food diary now. How long does it take to stop having dairy/gluten in my milk for dd??

I wouldn't do colloidal silver with a nursling, but I have a child that was extremely prone to metals toxicity, so that may color my views.

Light sensitivity, sound sensitivity, sleep issues - all that suggests she might benefit from magnesium, so take oral mag yourself and Epsom salts baths for both of you.
what form and or/brand have you or others had success with that won't likely cause a prob for dd?
post #8 of 21
Root canals can cause focal infections.
http://www.cephas-library.com/health..._cover-up.html
http://alternativecomplementarymedic...nger-Interview

Our holistic dentist won't do them at all and removes them from their patients. I wasn't surprised that you said you had one given your symptoms.
post #9 of 21
The only way to answer most of those questions is to find baseline and then test. So take out the known problems (ALL dairy & gluten) and the suspected problems (corn, and I'd throw soy in because it's so often a problem if the other 3 are). Add some magnesium. See where you are at in a few weeks. If there are still problems, it will hopefully be something your food diary can help chase down.

For mag, I like mag glycinate best, but start with any form of mag (other than oxide) you can get at your local HFS. Do Epsom salts baths for you and your babe as well (2c in a warm bath for 20 minutes). See if that helps with sleep and light/sound sensitivity.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JaneS View Post
Root canals can cause focal infections.
http://www.cephas-library.com/health..._cover-up.html
http://alternativecomplementarymedic...nger-Interview

Our holistic dentist won't do them at all and removes them from their patients. I wasn't surprised that you said you had one given your symptoms.
I've only read half of the first article and I'm shuddering. makes nme want to rip my tooth out! I'm in canada...never heard of a holistic dentist...how do you find one does it cost a lot to get them removed?/
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
"GM This states that germs from a central focal infection - such as teeth, teeth roots, inflamed gum tissues, or maybe tonsils - metastasize to hearts, eyes, lungs, kidneys, or other organs, glands and tissues, establishing new areas of the same infection. Hardly theory any more, this has been proven and demonstrated many times over. It's 100% accepted today. But it was revolutionary thinking during World War I days, and the early 1920's! "
http://alternativecomplementarymedic...nger-Interview

that really scares me and makes me take the whole tonsil thing seriously...but what to do? I've been doing everything I know for 7+years now...
post #12 of 21
I know, I felt that way too. I was always so conscientious... but when the poop hit the fan, this whole new world of how to truly achieve health opened up to me.

To find a holistic/biological dentist:
http://www.holisticdental.org/membersearch
https://www.iaomt.org/patients/search.aspx

You could also just have the root canals pulled by a regular endo. But know they probably have mercury in the amalgam post. Not something that you want to pass on to your b'fed babe as more is released when removed improperly (not by IAOMT protocol).
post #13 of 21
And if you live in Canada, you need to read this site:
www.vitamindcouncil.org
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
thanks for the info, I will check it out...

so we haven't cut corn yet or soy because I am super overwhelmed as it is...am I losing my mind or could cutting out dairy and gluten cause anxiety symptoms to come to the surface? It's not just a psychological thought about not having those foods...yesterday I felt dizzy, fog brained, gassy, sooo irritable, snappy and I ahd about 6 anixety attacks...I had problems with this a few months back but this may have even been worse, it had been udner control with my last remedy from the homeopath. DH actually is sick suddenly...dd is no longer constipated but just had another very green stool...is this detox? withdrawal (for me?) from cheeese and gluten???!!!

this is hell...we're eating pretty well/varied but I *needed* a pint of coconut ice cream to keep me sane. this is really hard. My mind was going into PPD world yesterday...

ETA: dd's rash is better on her face, but has moved down her back/tummy, she's having that bronchial phelgmy rattle she used to have (but is not sick), and more "wet burps" and gas and reflux...she isn't eating much differently either.
post #15 of 21
That sounds like withdrawal for you. Which is an important piece of info to have, because your little one could be reacting to your reactions. Hang in there, most people find the hardest days of withdrawal are the first 2-4. It can also trigger some die off if you weren't digesting dairy & gluten properly (which makes lots of food for bad gut flora). And that could affect your DD.

So I'd stay the course with just gluten & dairy for a week, and see how you're all feeling.

You might find Epsom salts baths helpful for all of you right now, they're very calming and balancing for my DS when he's detoxing.
post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 

really wicked reflux in dd

so over the last 4 or five days dd's relfux has come back...really bad, seemingly worse each day. To the point where if she nurses in bed she can't go back to sleeo and I can hear stuff coming up about 10 or mroe times in ten minutes if she;s eaten anything at all recently. She is also choking on it sometimes and crying/whimpering. We are both exhausted. I am super worried abotu her...seeing what my homeopath can do as she;s helped us resolve it the first time. I feel so frustrated and upset. things are goignf rom bad tow orse and my poor little girl is hurting, can';t sleep, even mroe than before!
ETA:
my homepath just said maybe we should go back to wheat and dairy as it seems to be making us worse...so confused!
post #17 of 21
What are you eating more of now that you've taken out dairy and gluten? Sounds like she's reacting to whatever it is.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
the only trhing I can really think of is rice...though I've ben trying not to have it all the time. Also more nut butters...small amounts peanut butter but mainly rice..rice noodles, bread etc.(sheepish) It can;t be rice..NOOO

*I* feel better. Though my stool are weird.
ETA: coconut and coconut oil...
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by doulawoman View Post
the only trhing I can really think of is rice...though I've ben trying not to have it all the time. Also more nut butters...small amounts peanut butter but mainly rice..rice noodles, bread etc.(sheepish) It can;t be rice..NOOO

*I* feel better. Though my stool are weird.
Yeah, sadly, it could be... I'd try a different grain instead, see if that helps. What are you drinking instead of milk?

And what kind of weird stool? It could be that you've gone through some die off and your daughter is still working to clear off any toxins you passed to her through that process.
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
I never really drank milk since I was a kid.. so it is almond milk and I haven't had any more than usual..maybe even less... cheese and yogurt were the only real dairy things to take out. though I was havign cheese several times per day.

Stools... ok, I'm worried it'll be TMI...very strong smell, sometimes like a greyish colouring, sometimes yellowish, sometimes it's basically a big pile that starts like dissolving .... would die off cause her to have reflux? This alls eems so complicated and confusing.
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