The October "Whatever" Thread - Page 2

[jeninejessica]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

I hope.

Sometimes it feels like that's all we're doing-- a wish and a prayer. lol. It always makes such perfect sense afterwards, but it's not afterwards that matters!

In a slightly calmer light, my CD14 does look awfully like o, and I had a bit of watery/ew type cf today, so it probably was. I guess I'm officially in the 2ww now, though I'm still holding out for tomorrows temps. I think I'll continue temping through the 2ww though... I feel like with the temps, if I see a gradual downward trend, it seems to hurt less than if i just get af out of nowhere. At least I have time to prepare myself..

And aren't I just a negative nancy today

[tutucrazy]

Originally Posted by Kindermama

Care to share your chart!? I need someone else's to look at!

I don't have the VIP so I don't think I can share it. I tested today and BFN at 10 DPO

[Kindermama]

don't give up, Tutu!

So how do you record morning CF if you had sex the night before?? FF moved my ovulation date because I recorded EW in the morning because I couldn't tell for sure. When I just changed it and recorded dry for that day, it moved my ovulation back to the day when I felt ovulation. I guess I'll leave it at that, right? I didn't have anymore CF later in the day

[tutucrazy]

Originally Posted by Kindermama

So how do you record morning CF if you had sex the night before?? g

That's a good question. I have no idea.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by tutucrazy

I don't have the VIP so I don't think I can share it. I tested today and BFN at 10 DPO

You don't need VIP to share your chart. Just set up your homepage, make sure it's not private and post the link. 10dpo is early to expect a . It can happen but a that early is not definitive.

kinder ~ Technically, you are supposed to record whatever could be the most fertile CF for that day. If you are not sure, you are supposed to record it as CF. I wish FF had "semen obscured" as an option. That's one feature of Ovusoft that I like better than FF. If you've got temps to confirm O sooner and you're pretty sure it was left over semen, I'd just record whatever else you saw for the rest of the day and make a note on your chart in case you need to go back later to change it.

Carrie ~ I'm not sure what you mean by seeing the whole surge. We all always have some LH in our system so seeing lighter lines before getting a + doesn't really mean much. It's only that one initial surge that causes a + opk that's significant. OPKs cannot pinpoint O and are not even necessary for determining when you are fertile. Personally, I think people put way too much importance on them. And I see you got your temp rise today.

AFM, my temp was higher this am so I'm going back to deciding that I did O 3 days ago. I changed my CF back to sticky, which is what I had externally all day yesterday, and just recorded the creamy CF in my notes. Since I've only been checking my CF externally I should stick with that and not switch.

I think I do this every cycle, freaking out about whether or not I am going to or did O. Sorry for being so neurotic. I'm going to try to go back to not thinking about it. Maybe I'll even stop temping again. (Who am I kidding?)

[akind1]

Tutu, I am a day behind you, I think. 9 DPO (guessing, based on CM, I did override on my chart) but it maybe off by a day or two. You can share even if not VIP, I do all the time, but I have free VIP days for now and the next three days! whoohoo! Here is my chart:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b048d
boring, as only CM on it. I have taken my temps randomly the last few days, and they are in the post O temp range (97.6-97.8) for me. my only "symptoms" are fatigue - I actually have napped 2x in the last week, and that is very unlike me. DH commented on it. - and some cramping.

Tutu, you can share your chart on free, just go to sharing and home page set up. you can't change your chart name to something easy, like tutuschart, unless you are VIP. but you can share it.

Kindermama, didn't FF have an option for semen-obscurred, or something like that? no, that must've been iVillage's fertility planner. um, I usually will check about 24 hours after having DTD. and record whatever that is.

JJ - there is always hope!

MW - glad to see you back!

VIP days during the TWW are dangerous. It says BD timing was good. That's something I guess. (whether day 24 or 25 doesn't seem to matter)

I am debating when to test . . . my dad's birthday is the 10th (but I don't think we will tell early this time. If we are, I would like to hold out at least until DS's 1st b-day, 11/20) and mine is 10/15 . . .I am such a POAS pansy!

anyway, here's to a good and eventful week, hopefully full of O and BD for everybody!

[Baby_Cakes]

MW - I get what you're saying now. Sorry for the overly hormonal response earlier.

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

I think I'll continue temping through the 2ww though... I feel like with the temps, if I see a gradual downward trend, it seems to hurt less than if i just get af out of nowhere. At least I have time to prepare myself..

And aren't I just a negative nancy today

sweetie!! I used to feel the same way. But the whole freedom of not temping during the 2ww and the NOT obsessing over every temp gave me such a calm last cycle. I felt more like I could handle b/c I hadn't wasted so much energy contemplating temps/times/symptoms. It was like a mini vacay and then oh well showed. If that makes sense.

Plus I get to sleep in uninterrupted. It's sooo nice. DD still isn't sleeping great and waking up at 6:45 to temp and then only getting maybe an hour more of sleep before having to get up stinks. It's nice to not have that alarm and just sleep til 7:30! Haha!

Originally Posted by Kindermama

So how do you record morning CF if you had sex the night before??

When it's semen obscured, you really can't. I just wait until later in the day to make sure it's really cf and not anything else.

Oh - and Tutu - don't give up! 10dpo is really early! Hang in there. We're rooting for you!

AFM - check out this rise! FXed it lasts!!

I was doing a lot of thinking yesterday about the kind of birth I want with the next baby. It's so much to think about. I'm definitely decided on homebirth again (barring anything serious preventing it of course) but the details are still up in the air for me.

I'm definitely feeling hopeful this time. B/c really that's all I have. What's done is done, and if I'm pg, great -- and if not, we'll keep on trying. At least we're really having fun. DH and I were talking yesterday about how close we've been feeling to each other lately, and how great our marriage has been -- and I think it's b/c we are on the same page and are making love more often. I never really put much stock in it before, but it makes such a difference, at least for us.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by akind1

VIP days during the TWW are dangerous. It says BD timing was good. That's something I guess. (whether day 24 or 25 doesn't seem to matter)

Oooh aren't they? The past 2 or 3 cycles I've had "high" for that and my hopes were just as high, lol!

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Carrie ~ I'm not sure what you mean by seeing the whole surge.

I think I do this every cycle, freaking out about whether or not I am going to or did O. Sorry for being so neurotic. I'm going to try to go back to not thinking about it. Maybe I'll even stop temping again. (Who am I kidding?)

All I meant was I saw it go from negative to positive, hold at positive, and then fade out. So whatever that means. This is my first time using them so I didn't know that they could stay positive for more than one day. I thought it was this really short window and that after the surge, O would happen (most likely). And that it would happen (if it was going to happen) within 24-48 hours.

And you're just as neurotic as the rest of us, so don't apologize.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

All I meant was I saw it go from negative to positive, hold at positive, and then fade out. So whatever that means. This is my first time using them so I didn't know that they could stay positive for more than one day. I thought it was this really short window and that after the surge, O would happen (most likely). And that it would happen (if it was going to happen) within 24-48 hours.

Gotcha. I guess that's kind of weird for me because that's not how they used to work for me. Back in the day when I was TTC and my cycles were all messed up my opks would go dark and then light and dark and light several times and then all of a sudden be super dark and +. There was never any starting out light, getting darker to + and then fading out again. I used to have to use them for 3 weeks or more and it drove me crazy.

BTW, I really recommend against the AE opks. I had a lot of trouble with them because they would get so dark and look so close to + and get me all excited but then they would fade and I wouldn't O. I didn't realize the darker ones weren't + until I got an actual, obvious + where the test line was way darker than the control. I Oed pretty soon after that one. I've tried a couple different brands since then and haven't had that trouble with any of the others. That was years ago, 2005, so they may have been improved since then. I never used them again.

[Kimmiepie]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

Kimmie - OMG we watched Babies last night too! I thought it was very interesting. And seeing them "now" was amazing. That little Hattie was a cutie pie.

Cool!!

I was kind of partial to the Mongolian baby. He was so chunky and cute. I was fascinated with their circular home in the middle of nowhere...but they had tv, and other "modern" things.


Hi MarineWife, good to see you.

Looks like several of you O'd in the past couple of days! Hoping it's a pleasant 2WW for y'all.

AFM: Still didn't temp which makes it hard to know if I O'd. I always have confusing CM after O, so I'm basically just waiting for AF to come in a reasonable time frame. I did have a TON of EWCM (first time in years!) and cramping on CD13, so I probably O'd then or the next day.

Sorry the personals are so crappy today. It's monday and home schooling is in full force again!

[jeninejessica]

Ouch.

I think I made my uterus angry by constantly telling it it was broken these last few days (I'm confused by my high pre-o temps, and the up and down of it), and then today I tried to check CP. About 2 minutes later I started cramping and boy does it hurt! I think that's her way of telling me to mind my own business for a few days. lol

I took a test this morning, because I was being neurotic, and just needed to cross that option out. Too much about this cycle was just feeling off, and especially with AF being late, I needed to rule it out so that in two weeks if I got a positive I wasn't wondering when it was from. Of course the test was negative, and now I feel like I can focus no going forward with my chart.

Which, ps, my temp is down to "coverline" again today. *headspin* maybe it's one heck of an implantation dip

[MarineWife]

JJ ~ What cd are you on? Did you get your thermometer?

[jeninejessica]

Chart Here

CD16 here, so 'normally' post o, and today I feel post o, yesterday I didn't-- but my temps just seem off. I did get the thermometer, and I have no reason to believe it's the cause, but my temps have been about .4 higher than my normal pre-o temps, which is why as a last ditch effort I took a test, thinking maybe they -werent- pre-o. My boobs has been sore and swollen almost a cup size too, and my nipples are like pins and needles type painful. I'm so ready for tomorrow! lol On the upside, the cramping has subsided a bit.

[MarineWife]

I see what you mean with the higher temps. If it weren't for the high temp on cd10 and the watery CF on cds 14 and 15, I might wonder if you Oed on cd12. If you had just a few more earlier temps, it would be easier to tell. Nothing can be done about that now. I know how that goes from my last few cycles.

What kind of test did you take, an opk or hpt? Even if you did O on cd12, there's no way a hpt would be + yet unless you were thinking maybe from last cycle.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

... there's no way a hpt would be + yet unless you were thinking maybe from last cycle.

I think she meant from last cycle, b/c things feel so weird.

JJ.

I need a project. I'm already climbing the walls.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

I think she meant from last cycle, b/c things feel so weird.

JJ.

I need a project. I'm already climbing the walls.

Oh, ok. I'm jumping in late in the game so don't know what's been happening.

I get that like, so obsessed that I can't sit still and can't concentrate on anything else. It's horrible. It's good for my home and family, though, because I tend to clean when I get that like. I've been knitting like crazy because it at least gives my hands something to do while I'm obsessing in my head.

ETA: I actually feel pretty chill now that I feel like I have Oed. I'm only 3dpo, though. We'll see how I am in 3-4 more days and I started testing.

[jeninejessica]

Yeah, last cycle. I feel better just knowing for sure that that "possibility" no matter how minute, is out now. At least I feel more like I know where I stand.

And I'm with MW on the yarn related-- I crochet. And I crochet, and I crochet some more. I put on sappy reruns of my show of the moment (dawsons creek right now), and then I crochet and listen until something else calls to me, ie the dishes. It helps because it's mindless and I can kind of zone uot.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

Yeah, last cycle. I feel better just knowing for sure that that "possibility" no matter how minute, is out now. At least I feel more like I know where I stand.

And I'm with MW on the yarn related-- I crochet. And I crochet, and I crochet some more. I put on sappy reruns of my show of the moment (dawsons creek right now), and then I crochet and listen until something else calls to me, ie the dishes. It helps because it's mindless and I can kind of zone uot.

That makes sense. I've done that a few times just to be absolutely sure because there's always that one woman who's been pg for 6 months but didn't know it because she had like clockwork.

I wish I could crochet. I've done a few things but am not very good at it. The hook feels awkward in my hand and my fingers cramp up (arthritis?).

[Kindermama]

JJ- wow that does look like a confusing chart. I hate to say it but you'll have to give it another day or so to what pattern emerges!

Babycakes-"climbing the walls" is a good expression. No one warned me about the side effects of charting I did chart in the past but I don't remember thinking so much about back then. I just did it in the morning and went on my merry way. Probably because I had an 8 mo at the time!

Anyway, here's my chart for you peekers! I need someone else to climb the walls with me. THis is getting ridiculous! I got a "good" rating for timing around O..... -1, 0,+1.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by Kindermama

JJ- wow that does look like a confusing chart. I hate to say it but you'll have to give it another day or so to what pattern emerges!

Babycakes-"climbing the walls" is a good expression. No one warned me about the side effects of charting I did chart in the past but I don't remember thinking so much about back then. I just did it in the morning and went on my merry way. Probably because I had an 8 mo at the time!

Anyway, here's my chart for you peekers! I need someone else to climb the walls with me. THis is getting ridiculous! I got a "good" rating for timing around O..... -1, 0,+1.

Looking good! Are you going to temp until you know either way?

I'm just going to confirm O again that I can chill for a little while and really let the reality of what 2 kids will be sink in.

I'm also totally lurking in the June DDC. LOL.