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he wants to try "regular" school - and I don't know what to do!

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
A little background: DS1 is 6, this is our first year of homeschooling. He did Montessori kinder last year. He did well in that environment. We couldn't afford elem years (nearly triple the price of Kinder ). DS struggles socially, and has a hard time with noise/chaos. We decided public school wasn't the best option. So we are homeschooling. And it's going well.

Now, DS says he'd like to try "regular" school. He thinks the little desks sound fun. He likes the idea of a "real" teacher and raising his hand. He even seems excited about the idea of making friends and playing at recess.

I'm torn. Part of me wants to let him try it. Part of me thinks it's not the right place for him right now. He learns well one-on-one, and struggles when there are so many distractions around him.

What would you do??? TIA!!!
post #2 of 14
I would not allow a 6 year old to decide where to school.

I would try to address the issues, though - and some of the stuff he is worried about can be addressed at home.

You can set up a school at home space if that is what he craves - desks, whiteboard, etc. He can even have a school bag and school supplies

The friendship thing I hear him on. Does he have opportunities to make friends? Sports, Scouts, church? Play dates, play ground, etc. In many ways informal is the way to go - lots of people sign their kids up for sports, etc, hoping the kids will make friends - but the other kids and parents are there to learn the sport - not make friends - so it does not always work out. Look for things where built in play times are allowed. Drop-in programs, HS swim, HS skating, park days, etc are more usefull.
post #3 of 14
I hs'ed dd1 for K, but for this year decided to put her in public 1st. Although I feel that we will go back to hsing in the near future, ps works for our family needs right now. dd1 is very stubborn about academics and I feared she would feel lost in 1st. I am so surprised... she is doing work that she would have never even thought about doing at home, even if I bribed her with cookies.... (not that I ever did...). Her class is 21 kids and is actually fairly clam and quiet most of the day. Sure they get out to recess, PE or music class and are loud... but I think if your son were in this class (typical ps 1st gr) he would not be overwhelmed.
post #4 of 14
My 6-year-old expressed a desire to go to PS during the summer between K and 1. We've homeschooled all along. She had similar reasons, so...

I set up a school room, where she has two desks (a writing desk and a computer desk). We hung up a whiteboard and a corkboard. We bought textbooks and workbooks -- the same ones used in PS (Harcourt, Scott Foresman, Macmillan/McGraw-Hill, but varied grade levels to fit where she really was. We got her a backpack and a lunchbox, and packed her lunchbox with whatever I would be sending her to school with. We even set up a strict, PS-like schedule with breaks, snack, lunch, etc.

And our first day of HS this year was a six-hour long day in pretty much the same format the local schools have. She HATED it, but made it through the day, and at the end we discussed what she liked and didn't like. As it turns out, she really disliked the hand-raising, the scheduled breaks and snack/lunch, and most of all, all of the handwriting (e.g., putting her name at the top of every worksheet).

So, I explained to her that's how PS worked, and in PS she would have to hand write her name at the top of all of her papers, hand write all of her answers on worksheets, etc. (Note that she has some handwriting difficulties.) And that in PS she wouldn't be allowed to just pay attention to her body as far as needing a drink, a snack, etc. If she wanted to use the restroom she would have to ask and might be told she had to wait.

Now she's vehemently in favor of homeschooling, where she can take a break when she knows she needs one, have a snack whenever she's hungry, have a cup of water sitting on her desk, leave with just a "I'll be right back!" when she needs to use the restroom, etc. Oh, and while she does have to do a little handwriting every day to work on her fine motor development, which is behind, for the rest of the day she can give either oral or typed answers to questions.

As for recess, we've addressed that with playground time. Most of the time that means an indoor playground because the weather here is extremely hot for nine months out of the year (100-110 F). I like to point out, after she's spent two hours on the playground, that it's the equivalent of *eight days* of recess in PS where we live (1 recess per day, 15 minutes).

She still brings her backpack and lunchbox -- packed with snacks -- to the school room each day, and likes me to use the whiteboard to note down things, but she definitely doesn't want to go to PS anymore and loves the relaxed schooling method we use (just shy of unschooling).

I'm *definitely* in the minority but if she had still wanted to go to PS after our "just like PS" day, I would have enrolled her. My parents allowed me to make big decisions, even as a young child, and I still really appreciate it, though I realize it's a bit unusual. Then again, a lot of DH and I's parenting philosophy is to do what my parents did and not what his did, so...

IMO, six is old enough to discuss the pros and cons of going to PS and to come to a decision with your child's input. I wouldn't just enroll him without making sure he understands all of the downsides of PS that are relevant to *him*.

Also, you can go ahead and run with a lot of the things he wants. Maybe you should have him call you "Mrs/Ms/Miss Lastname" during school time and raise his hand to ask questions if that sounds fun to him! You can get a little desk and a whiteboard pretty inexpensively. I got DD's writing desk online for about $40, and it's way, way nicer than a normal school desk. It has a drawer, a bunch of neat little cubbies and shelves, etc.

Best of luck.

--K
post #5 of 14
my daughter wanted to attend regular school once too. after talking to her, i realized she wanted some similar experiences that her cousins and PS friends had talked about and she felt out of place in those conversations (having a teacher she could talk about, a backpack, recess, lunch time). we joined a co-op a couple of years ago to meet that need. it is every other friday & 4 hours a day (parent-led). although it does have some academics (history, science, lunch, and an elective), it's purpose is to be fun! my children love it! i even offered to join another co-op, so that we would have something to do on the off weeks...but she said no way. we have other classes we take as well (4H, Awana, and gymnastics), and this seems to fill that void she once had perfectly. last year, i organized "school" pictures, where we had class photos & individual photos. another mom organized a kindergarten graduation. we also do monthly field trips with our co-op (and other field trips with another group). we have a thanksgiving feast, christmas party, and for birthdays the moms bring in cupcakes, etc. IME, most things that a child would like to experience can easily be met. for us, public school was not an option at the time my dd asked about it, but working with my child to meet the need she desired was very doable. hth.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input! I'm still not sure what we'll do, or what the "right" thing to do will be for us.

For right now, I told ds that we can't make that decision in just one conversation - that we will have to discuss it more.
post #7 of 14
Our son has a desire to feel like a "big kid", and going off to school on the bus and doing work at a desk and following all those rules and having to go in from playing to finish your homework all sounds like important big-kid stuff (sigh). The neighbor kids all do it and talk about it and he feels like he misses out on feeling important. So I try to meet his need to feel like a big kid with important things to do in other ways. I have him take his written school work very seriously, and his violin practice and lessons, and his participation in sports (being on time, being respectful to the coach, paying attention, having his uniform on right, etc.)

One Sunday evening he really did have some homework to do for the reading tutor he sees on Monday, and I told him in front of the neighborhood kids that he needed to come in soon because he had homework to finish...he gave a big dramatic sigh and rolled his eyes....he loved it !!! LOL !
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
I tend to agree that at 6, he can't make the best decision, thinking through all sides, and seeing things from another perspective. Yet, with that said, he's very head-strong. He's cooperated well with hs thus far, and I do worry now that he has ps in mind, it will lead to difficulties (fingers crossed that I am over-worrying on that front).

Dh and I made the decision to hs him based on his social anxiety, and his aversion to sitting still and doing busy work. But now I'm floundering, unsure if those are even good reasons. sigh. I guess I'm just confused right now.

Thank you for listening and offering advice and being supportive!!
post #9 of 14
If he was in public school now and wanted to homeschool (and it was possible) would you let him make that decision?
post #10 of 14
If he wanted to have cotton candy for breakfast every morning would you let him?

You are the parents. You know what is best for him. If you decide that homeschooling is best, tell him. Just like you tell him that eating cotton candy for breakfast is not best. And then get on with your bad homeschooling selves!
post #11 of 14
My ds went to a Montessori preschool and really liked it. Homeschooling after that positive school experience was difficult for him. He was angry with me for quite awhile. "Who decided that I have to be homeschooled?! I want to go to real school and play with kids every day."

I tried to emphasize the positives of homeschooling, particularly the things that he liked. He could sleep later in the morning, ride his bike between school subjects, finish school as soon as his work is done, eat lunch with Daddy every day . . . Once he could see that he has it pretty good, he was happier to go along with my decision.
post #12 of 14
I let both my kids try ps.My dd managed half a year with 1st and then a half for 2nd grade.My ds went 4 months in K and I pulled him due to bullying.My ONLY regret was keeping my 5yo ds in K for 4 months and not pulling him out when the bullying was not resolved.

I do not regret letting them try ps. They wanted to see what it was really like and they did not like what they had to *live* every day at school.It was a real eye opener for me too!They are now in Montessori and it is better,but hs or online ps is possible in our future.

One issue I had with putting them in ps was family expected them to stay there.Even with my ds and the bullying issue I was expected to keep them in ps. I finally just pulled the kids out on my own and dealt with the family afterwards.Now I remind family often that there are many schooling options and I will not hesitate to switch them to something if the need should arise.

Best wishes!
post #13 of 14
I have one thing to say about this. Start reading Calvin and Hobbs to him and he'll get it, I promise you.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by simple living mama View Post
I have one thing to say about this. Start reading Calvin and Hobbs to him and he'll get it, I promise you.
My son has wondered why Calvin can't just learn at home.

There is also plenty of commentary on school out there on kids' shows (the ones not aimed at the preschool crowd). On Popular Mechanics for Kids the host's intro to the segment about circus school begins something like, "Almost everyone agrees that school sucks" ! That is a strong statement and one I wouldn't have said to him, but my son heard it on a dvd he enjoys.
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