i dont want to be afraid to vbac

[marquess78]

i posted early on about this pg and my decision to vbac with these twins despite my history of 3 c/s.

until my little boy decided he prefers to be breech now the little girl has her head crammed in my pelvis, my ob was on board as well. we are 30w1d now and with my history of 35w deliveries we are coming down to it. since little girl is so low and hasnt moved since 24w i doubt shes going anywhere. and while i know u/s measurements can be off, she is still amost a full lb smaller than him and has been consistantly so. little boy still flips back and forth and i am planning to see a chiro soon and start adjustments.

hypnobabies has been great but im not able to do the lessons as often as i need to. so its slow going.

my thing is that i know that things are happening. my trip to labor and delivery after a fall last week showed my cervix is preparing itself. which has never happened before. so i have faith. i contract all the time so i know im not broken. but at this point i am afraid. what if im wrong and something happens to these babies?

how do i get over that and allow myself to relax and enjoy this last bit of my pg?

[cairomama]

After the first twin is out, they can usually turn the second twin. They can also do a breech extraction (I think you need an epidural for that).

You could wait to go into labor on your own and have a c-section at that point.

What does your doctor suggest? What does your instinct say?

As for Hypnobabies, play your affirmations cd first thing in the morning while you are getting breakfast ready and do your hypnosis track the last thing before you go to bed. Many people find that practicing the fingerdrop technique when they go to the bathroom throughout the day helps get the practice in.

[kltroy]

Yes ditto what PP said - they can often turn the second baby to vertex after the first comes out (there's momentarily some extra space in there). The other possibility is that you do the VBAC with c-section for baby #2 if you aren't feeling good about the second. Seems to me you can make a game-time decision about baby #2. If the stars align, you get a great VBAC with both babies. If the starts sort-of align, you get a VBAC with #1 and a RCS with #2. Or, you can opt for an RCS if you're just not feeling it, or if the babies are having trouble with labor.

I would discuss all of these options with your ob and see if there are any risks/benefits to each that you hadn't considered.

[marquess78]

OB is quite against doing a breech extraction of a larger twin. i asked about manually turning him if he doesnt figure it out on his own, but got no response on that.

i still plan to wait for labor. no sense for them to come before they are ready. i am emotionally prepared to have a dual delivery(vbac and c/s), as my instincts tell me that trying to do breech extraction of little man is not the best choice. but i also feel that he will turn before we need to worry about how to get him out backwards.

he has to cover himself and recommend a RCS and i dont fault him for that. as far as OBs go, i havent found one who is as honest and up front as is he is. i asked him to make sure that he put it in writing that he has counseled me on the risks and that i have made an informed decision to proceed with a vaginal delivery despite the current recommendations and based on my history.

i feel good about my chances of vbacing most of the time. i listen to my affirmations every morning on the way to work (i have a long commute) and my lessons at least 3 x wk. i work full and part time and i have so many things going on with my 10 yr old that its difficult. no excuses. but its the truth. i try to do some work during my breaks at work but i find myself so exhausted there that all it does is make me sleepy!! which i cant afford to be at work of course.

if i ever felt that an RCS was mine or the babies best option, i would do it. my plan, which has been discussed with OB, is to have an epi catheter placed but not loaded with meds, in case of neccessary emergency c/s. DD was a c/s under general and it was the most horrific experience of my life. so the choice to have the cath placed was mine (OB thinks the anesthesiologist will think i am nuts but i could care less) to protect my sanity, emotions, and to prevent me from missing another of my childrens 'births'.

i am confident in my ability to birth my babies. i just need to remember not to allow the scary stuff to get in my head, or to let others comments do the same. the decisions about my body are mine, and will be made by me.

[marquess78]

and what i suggested to OB was exactly what a PP said, if little girl comes out vaginally and little man is still breech and i am not comfortable proceeding with vaginal breech extraction and he cant be turned manually, then i will agree to a RCS. i am not being unreasonable about it at all.

[cairomama]

Sounds like a good plan. You have thought things through and are prepared for the range of possibilities.

I think that if you take the energy that is going towards worrying and direct it to making sure that you are practicing your Hypnobabies and taking care of yourself, you will have the confidence you want and will also have more peace about the outcome, whatever it is.

How to do that? Just make a conscious choice to do it. Every time you start worrying, put your affirmations on. You can play the track every night as you are going to sleep. Even if you fall asleep, there is still a benefit. If you are at work and can't play the tracks, then give yourself the "peace" and "release" cues to let go of tension and practice your anesthesia and relaxation cues.

[marquess78]

anyone got any good ideas on how to convince little man that he needs to turn around? gonna try the ice tonight. i cant usually tell when he flips but i can definitely tell when his head is in my ribs!

[cairomama]

http://www.spinningbabies.com/spinning-babies-and/twins