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I chicken'd out!!

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
So I just found out i'm prego w/dc#2, and starting to think about my options. With my first pregnancy i was set on a natural delivery but when the contractions got bad i opted for the epidural. DS had to be vaccuumed out and it left a big contusion on his head that looked like road rash. Then, he cried for like the first 2 hrs straight and it took nearly that whole time to get him to latch on. So, i would like to have a natural delivery this time, but don't want to chicken out. Is there anything i can do to make this delivery less stressful for lo#2? Any suggestions on how to stick to the plan of no meds??? If i got a midwife, how helpful would she be? (She would have to comply w/hospital regulations, i think)
thanks!
post #2 of 23
A few things that come to mind:

Get a doula

Use a midwife (if in hospital, yes they have to practice within hospital policy, but there is a lot they can do, being a support thoughout pregnancy, providing confidence to you in labor, etc. The biggest difference is the prenatal care and it's completely different, much more personal, more time, more of a relationship, it makes a difference.)

Take a good, out of hospital birthing class (Hypnobabies would be my recommendation can do homestudy as well)

Have a homebirth! (or out of hospital birth center)
post #3 of 23
In addition to doula... if your DH wants to be helpful in the room, get him The Birth Partner (by Penny Simkin)

Both you and he should read it. It has a ton of tips on how to deal with the pain/discomfort... how to deal with pain medications... etc.

My DH read it a couple times through the pregnancy and that had him much better able to support me during labor itself.



I also found Ina Mays Guide to Childbirth both helpful and motivating when it came to labor itself.
post #4 of 23
I am using a hospital based midwife and I have found the care much different than the OB I used. Very reassuring and also open to moving around, sqautting, etc, during birth. I think it has to be on the bed still, but it's better than on my back. Also monitoring is different.

I am also using a doula, and doing hynobabies. I am also doing chiro treatment for position (DD was sunny side up and had to have a unsuccessful attempt at vacuum extraction before she was a c-section)

I will admit I was skeptical of hynobabies, but after only 2 weeks I feel more positive in general

I second Ina May - great read!
post #5 of 23
hypnobabies
post #6 of 23
1) Give birth in a place that doesn't have epidural anesthesia available (like home)
2) Hire a doula
3) Take a natural childbirth prep class (Bradley, Hypnobabies, Hypnobirth, Birthing from Within, Birthworks, etc...)
4) Surround yourself with supportive people throughout your pregnancy and delivery. If someone isn't supporting your decisions, you may need to take a break from them during this time.
5) Have faith in yourself!! Remind yourself everyday how amazing you are to be nurturing a life inside you and how excited you are to help usher this life earthside!
post #7 of 23
For me, it helped to see other women do it. My first birth was crazy and made me doubt my body and the whole system. I was really leaning towards the medical route just because I didn't trust myself.

Watching my two sister in laws give birth naturally this year totally re-established in my mind that I CAN DO THIS. My body is fine, I will have all the strength and ability I need when the moment comes, And I can trust myself. I want whats best for this baby. I know what is best for this baby. And I can trust myself to put the baby first, ahead of my own fears.
post #8 of 23
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For me, it helped to see other women do it. My first birth was crazy and made me doubt my body and the whole system. I was really leaning towards the medical route just because I didn't trust myself.

Watching my two sister in laws give birth naturally this year totally re-established in my mind that I CAN DO THIS. My body is fine, I will have all the strength and ability I need when the moment comes, And I can trust myself. I want whats best for this baby. I know what is best for this baby. And I can trust myself to put the baby first, ahead of my own fears.
I had one dose of nubain with my first, and was a little skittish about my second as well. What I didn't know then was that my first was poorly positioned, and my contractions were super intense the whole time. My second labor, with a much better positioned baby, was TOTALLY different. (and MUCH faster). But, the thing that gave me confidence was being with a friend when her baby was born naturally. The boost it gave me was amazing. I thought of her many, many times when my baby was born 2 weeks later...
post #9 of 23
my only tip (and the only thing that kept me from using pain meds myself) is to stay home as long as possible before going in. i got to the birth center at 8cm and it wasn't long until i was pushing - there just was no time for meds!
post #10 of 23
1) Doula
2) CNM or natural birth friendly obgyn
3) Husband preparation
4) stay at home for as long as possible
5) opt for a smaller hospital, like mine didn't have an anesthesiologist - only per phone so if you request an epi, it takes an hour of bloodwork, and then another hour for the guy to come... it makes it harder to get one, kwim?
6) birthing center - they have no pain meds, only for suturing
7) home birth
9) hypnobaby or other relaxation techniques

We opted for a birthing center this time, and a doula. DH is a lousy birth partner who hates seeing me in pain so he'd sign up for an epi in advance...
post #11 of 23
I used acupressure points the entire labor along with some homeopathic meds. Also I delivered at a MW friendly hospital who asked my birth plan up front. When I said no meds, they never offered them and I never asked.
Ina May's books were on my night table for 9 months getting me prepared for conquering the pain.
post #12 of 23
I think that all of the suggestions given are good ones but I think the biggest factor is where you birth. I believe a birth center or homebirth would be the most sure-fire way of achieving an unmedicated birth. I had two hospital epidural births followed by three homebirths and wish I had made the switch before the third baby.
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
thankyou all for the advice! I think I'll look into getting doula and maybe a midwife. If you had to choose between one or the other which one would you choose??

We only have one midwife and one doula in the area, and the midwife isn't licensed, so a home birth is pretty much out. We don't have a birthing center either, although I appreciate the suggestions!
post #14 of 23
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We only have one midwife and one doula in the area, and the midwife isn't licensed, so a home birth is pretty much out. We don't have a birthing center either, although I appreciate the suggestions!
If the midwife isn't licensed, that means she wouldn't have admitting privledges in a hospital, so she probably does *only* homebirths. The midwives that work in hospitals are CNMs - certified nurse midwives. Maybe try calling the hospitals in your area to see if any have CNMs on staff, or CNMs with admitting privledges?
post #15 of 23
what worked for me was an observation policy in the hospital I was at. If I had accepted any pain meds the hospital would keep my baby for observation for babies first hour of life. That just wasn't ok with me.

The nurse was great too. She kept patting her pocket every time the going got tough. She told me she had the meds right in her pocket and I could have them if I really needed them. Of course she never gave in but she patted her pocket several times, LOL.
post #16 of 23
I think it's also to try and remember that many many 2nd labors/deliveries are far shorter than the first ones. It might be easier to stick it out and hold your ground if you keep reminding yourself that it probably won't take as long as the first one did.

Here's my labor/pushing times... the difference is very dramatic.
DS - 27 hours of labor with 4 hours of pushing - had an epidural and have always believed that is why I had to push for so long. If you can't feel the muscles, it's far harder to push.
DD - 4 hours of labor with 2 contractions that pushed baby out (I did not actively push, my body just did it). No pain meds, no epidural. 13 minutes from 4cm to baby delivered.

Yes, when I was checked and told I was 4cm, I did ask for an epidural, but if I had realized or remembered how much faster things could have gone, I don't think I would have even asked. As it turned out (happily!), as soon as the anesthesiologist walked into the room, I felt the urge to push and out came DD!

It also helped that my nurses were very supportive and had told me that their 2nd births were too fast for anything but natural, as well. This was at a large Kaiser hospital, so I was surprised to find them so supportive.

With #2, I was feeling transition before I got to 4cm, so I was a bit confused. I tried telling myself that it didn't matter what the cms were, what mattered was how I felt. Kept reminding myself that I could make it through 1 minute at a time. Always picking a small point to focus on as a contraction started (not necessarily anything special or even the same thing for each contrax).

Oh, and as a PP said, positioning can make a world of difference. DS was postier, but DD was in a perfect birthing position for quite a while before labor. Spinningbabies.com has lots of info on getting and keeping babies in good position.
post #17 of 23
read ina may gaskin's guide to childbirth.

you'll never contemplate using drugs again!
post #18 of 23
First births are hard for several reasons--the labour tends to be longer, you have no idea what to expect, etc. Maybe your baby was badly positioned and thus the terrible pain, slow labour and need for a vacuum. I wouldn't blame yourself or the epidural for the difficult delivery, it might have been even more unpleasant with the same need for vacuum without the epi.

Anyway, you probably won't have time to get the epidural in the 2nd birth, if you wait for the pain to get unbearable before you ask. Most 2nd time moms I know did not have time for an epidural, unless they had scheduled it beforehand and asked for it first thing on arriving at the hospital. I know some moms who were really angry at the hospital for not giving the epidural in time hehe!
post #19 of 23
I always wonder if I hadn't been home with no pain meds available if I would have caved. At one point I was about to beg to transfer, but then I remembered that if I did that the insurance would pay only the hospital and I'd have to pay the midwife's $5000 fee out of pocket.
post #20 of 23
Take non-hospital childbirth classes; BirthWorks, Bradley, something that's totally focused on natural birth.

Consider homebirth. Even if you have to pay for it yourself, I think it's totally worth it.

If you give birth in a hospital, hire a doula. One place to find a doula in your area is at www.doulamatch.net
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