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post #21 of 31
Sorry for the repost but I wanted to link to the cloth diaper study. I couldn't find the numbers I was looking for in the Huggies Every Little Bottom study that was on my mind (I thought they were here) but even if we used the RDA as a source, the stats are low - much lower than I would have thought for cloth diapering parents.

RDA suggests 7.5% as an average for babies in cloth diapers (92.5% in disposables). I think we have a long way to go with regards to vaccination, considering the number of cloth diapering parents is still so low.

http://www.realdiaperassociation.org/diaperfacts.php
post #22 of 31
It sounds a little low to me but not unbelievable. I've searched out "crunchy" mamas high and low for over 3 years now since I had my LO and have found many that selectively vaxed but only two others that have never vaxed at all. I'm not sure if I'll be able to explain this the way I mean it but completely not vaxing is the hardest and most controversial "crunchy" thing there is. Generally speaking, mainstream people think you are weird if you cloth diaper or breastfeed after infancy and may be so bold as to make a snarky comment but I've never encountered the outright hostility at those things that being non-vax brings about. There are people that literally think I should be jailed for endangering the life of their child.
So yeah, I think it takes a strong and/or really well informed person to stand up to it all and say they won't vax at all and then on top of it admit it to others whether in person or by a survey.
post #23 of 31
The only people I know who have never had any vaccines is my daughter and my niece (yay for my brother and SIL!!) So I don't think 1% is way out of the realm of possibilities.
post #24 of 31
If only one percent of all children in the US are not vaccinated, why the scapegoating of unvaxed children in CA where ten children have died from pertussis this year and there have been 6,000+ confirmed cases?
post #25 of 31
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Originally Posted by caned & able View Post
If only one percent of all children in the US are not vaccinated, why the scapegoating of unvaxed children in CA where ten children have died from pertussis this year and there have been 6,000+ confirmed cases?
There may be a higher portion of kids that haven't had the DTaP, but still had other vaxes.
post #26 of 31
NO, nine of the deaths were in immigrant communities that are traditionally fully vaxed but the mothers do not typically breastfeed.

The healthcare professionals and county health workers are pushing for adult pertussis vaccines.

All but one of the deaths have also been in children who are LESS than two months of age.
post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by MamatoPeach View Post
then whats the big deal with the 'vaccinators' freaking out about the non vaccinators. shouldnt they feel comfortable with their high amount of vaccination rate? they should have peace of mind, maybe they have a feeling that they are doing the wrong thing so they are pushing the topic hard to hide the truth...
Because we live in a world where people think that they can control everything, where someone must be to blame and because if we just legislate and force people to conform to what we want life will be risk free.
post #28 of 31
It sounds about right to me number wise. I think there are a lot of selectively vaxed children, and I wonder what the CDC "fully vaxed" list would be, because what's required for school is different from state to state.
post #29 of 31
That number seems a bit low to me. Having said that, I am the only parent that I know of not vaxing their kid.

Hehe
post #30 of 31
Those numbers seem right on to me. I'm sure there are pockets of non-vax'd kids around the US so to someone living in one of those areas, the number may seem low but overall, I think it's right on.

I also agree with the whole phone survey thing. I don't answer any questions regarding vaccines. If the survey sounds even remotely "health" oriented, I hang up. And as for the "anti-Nielsen" argument, I'll just say there's a difference between choosing not to be surveyed and never being asked to be surveyed. I've done Neilsen twice and I know the weekly ratings work differently and are not just random people with a booklet. I also know not to get too hooked on any show on NBC the first season it's on because there's a 90%+ chance it will be canned.

Jenn
post #31 of 31
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Originally Posted by MamatoPeach View Post

then whats the big deal with the 'vaccinators' freaking out about the non vaccinators. shouldnt they feel comfortable with their high amount of vaccination rate? they should have peace of mind, maybe they have a feeling that they are doing the wrong thing so they are pushing the topic hard to hide the truth...


 That's some incredibly offensive conjecture.

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