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.. not sustainable? I was reading the news about the photo of the pink meat paste that some of you may have seen on msn.com under weird news (I'm bored today...). It had a link to the meatgeek.org site. That's where I found this article from a professor at Penn State that basically says grass-fed beef isn't what its cracked up to be and its not sustainable and good for the environment. He has some interesting points. I'm a believer in TF and sustainable farming, etc so this info is confusing to me. Anyone care to discuss? Thoughts?
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It's not, *if* everyone eats like a typical American and has red meat every single day (sometimes multiple times a day). When you're dealing in that kind of quantity, it's not going to be sustainable no matter what the cow eats.

Beef is supposed to be a once-a-week, or every-so-often kind of splurge. I pay $25 for a roast but I get four meals out of it and I only do that every 4-6 weeks or so. A lot of people think we aren't designed to eat red meat because it causes so many health problems, but the issue is caused by quantity, not the meat itself.

Feedlots are not sustainable, or friendly toward the environment OR the consumer. They produce diseased, smelly beef with little (if any) nutritional value, and contribute dramatically to food-based illness in this country. A ruminant's system is simply not designed to digest corn, chicken feces, or the other crap they give cattle in feedlots. They're built to digest GRASS, and only grass, which is why they get so sick when deprived of their natural diet. Garbage in, garbage out - a sick cow is not going to produce nutritious meat.

E. coli alone kills way too many children every year, especially when you consider that a cow finished on grass for a mere two weeks has ZERO E. coli in her system. I dunno about you, but that's enough news to make my decision for me. I eat grassfed, or I don't eat beef. I find I enjoy it more anyway when it's an occasional treat.
post #3 of 8
Totally.

Taking a look at beef in a more traditional context...it is a seasonal meat, slaughtered in fall. My dh comes from a traditional society where many people are only recently/now coming to refrigeration. Large animals don't keep at any time other than winter, when there is a cold room in the house, thanks to the weather. So, beef is slaughtered in the cold time (after grazing through the summer and storing Vit. D) and then split between several families, hung in the cold room and eaten, meal by meal. In his tradition, meals typically consist of a small chunk of meat (maybe 1 pound to about 6 people), slow-cooked with a large pile of vegetables (which would be carrots, parsnips, squash, potatoes, onions) and served with bread or couscous...or maybe in a pot of white beans with onions and spices, served with bread. When they eat it, they sop up all the broth and clean the bones, eating cartilage, fat and connective tissues with gusto.

They may eat this meal daily, but never are they serving each person a steak or some such, so the meat goes a long way. Responsible eating/consumption seems to be the "other half" of the sustainability story that we avoid as a society. Like with electricity and fuel, we want to continue to consume according to our current habits, and discover a magic bullet that will eliminate the impact of our practice. It's irresponsible to over-consume. We spend extra money and take in extra calories that we then have to spend more time and money exercising off. And yes, I am still guilty of that myself, and don't mean to point fingers.

But sustainability is a holistic thing. We have thousands of small steps to take in order to even approach the goal of sustainable living. So, is it worth buying grass-fed? Yes, yes, yes!

We're looking forward to raising a pair of steers on grass again soon. They yielded less meat, but better meat. They were a delight to raise--great temperament, beautiful animals. And by raising a pair, at slaughter time, we sold one to "pay for" the other for our own freezer. They grow slowly, but the quality difference is truly amazing. And we have to manage the pasture carefully, but that's part of the "rest of the story."

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Thanks for the thoughtful responses!!!
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Originally Posted by HappyTomato View Post
.. not sustainable? I was reading the news about the photo of the pink meat paste that some of you may have seen on msn.com under weird news (I'm bored today...). It had a link to the meatgeek.org site. That's where I found this article from a professor at Penn State that basically says grass-fed beef isn't what its cracked up to be and its not sustainable and good for the environment. He has some interesting points. I'm a believer in TF and sustainable farming, etc so this info is confusing to me. Anyone care to discuss? Thoughts?
I believe it to be sustainable. Find a grower in your area, and go visit them. I also recommend reading "The Omnivore's Dilemma".
post #6 of 8
I would read this article with a grain of salt, considering who wrote it! According to his department's website:
"The present beef cattle barns were completed in the late 1960s, with one entire wing devoted to feeding research. Trials are currently being carried out at this location utilizing food industry by-products as well as general beef nutrition studies. Harold Harpster and John Comerford direct these studies."
Not exactly an unbiased opinion.
Also, the "outputs" in natural pasturing (the nitrogen and phoshates, ie poo) are recycled in a natural system back into the pasture ecology building healthy soil profiles. This strengthens the biosystem, not polluting it. Compare confined feedlot operations which generate gigantic "lakes" of sewage and often contaminate local watersheds.
Thats before you consider the animal's welfare...cattle with their famous multiple stomach system are supposed to eat GRASS...eating grains may produce meat with marbling and more of it, but the animal lives miserably with chronic disease. Whether that impacts the healthiness of the meat, I'd look skeptically at it...
Good pasturing techniques produce high quality meat in a way that benefits the biosystem...check out the website for Polyface Farm and Joel Salatin's (featured in Omnivores Dilemma) books.
post #7 of 8
It's about a dairy CAFO, not a meat one, but still... this article does an excellent job examining the environmental impact of a CAFO.
post #8 of 8
Also:

In the study, neither group was actually pastured in a natural setting, these were confined animals fed differing ratios of grains and hay (dead grass).

The higher percentages quoted are simply based on the fact that the grass fed animals grew more slowly, ie lived longer. In other words, they did not poop, drink, or fart more in quantity or frequency.

Finally, 30% more land in well managed healthy pastures...oh the horrors (not).

The whole article is ridiculous.
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