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post #21 of 24
Hi op: I found this article that has some citations but they don't provide links... some of the citations look worth tracking down.

http://www.akha.org/content/medicald...ilippines.html
post #22 of 24
I've read many of these articles too and it can be very difficult to check what the sources are and whether there is any validity to personal accounts, especially when the authors embrace values that oppose my own (i'm not pro-life, not anti-gay for example).
However, as Acupuncturist says, it is never futile to discuss the possibility that these events might be true. I think that in light of other events of the past, such as this, we have to consider that possibility. Governments and health organization do not tend to come out with human right transgressions until much later after the fact. I believe that the women and men who may be damaged by these practices deserve our attention.

As for judging whether or not a theory is of a conspiratorial nature, I believe that is superfluous. It seems nowadays that any and all suspicion towards the power elite is met with the accusation of being a conspiracy theory. As if there has never been an abuse of power in our history.

When I read articles like these I always consider the possiblity that it may be true. The first thing I want to know is whether there could be any reason why the accused would want to inflict said damage on said group of people. I've done quite a bit of reading about eugenics over the past couple of years and my conclusion is that there is certainly an ideology of a sort of population control that directs the actions of officials and businessmen within the world's power elite. I rely mostly on the words of the elite themselves, because they are not ashamed of making their views public. And that doesn't mean it gets news coverage. But the documents and books are there and available to the public.
There are no 'secret' missions or 'conspiracy theories, it's all out in the open.

The hCG anti-fertility vaccine is being researched at a few different universities, one of them being Uppsala Hospital University, so at least we have determined that the vaccine exists (not sure anyone doubts that one though). But what's interesting is this: they attempted a trial using Swedish women, but it was unsuccessful (they weren't able to attract a large enough number of women, and many of the participants quit after getting serious side-effects).
In India, a much more successful trial was conducted, and according to the words used by a resercher of medical ethics, it was done without informed consent. The women used were already in medical care at the clinics and were told that they would receive preferrential treatment if they participated in the study. They were actually not told that they were partaking in a study, but rather would receive a anti-fertility treatment that was 'safe'. Of course, at the time, there had been no safety studies performed.
Here's the article from Indian Journal of Medical Ethics
http://www.issuesinmedicalethics.org/083or084.html
post #23 of 24

sources?

Someone mentioned a lack of sources as a reason not to trust the articles linked by OP. I found one article http://www.akha.org/content/medicald...ines.htmlwhich mentions the Phillippine Medical Association as having found tetanus vaccines tainted with the hCG hormone. Here there is also a reference to

Population Research Institute Review, November/December, 1996, page 3

I googled this term and came up with Congressional Records, on google books.
http://books.google.se/books?id=eDRm...page&q&f=false

Search terms were found here:
http://books.google.se/books?id=eDRm...201996&f=false

I have yet to check out the details, but thought I'd share it with those inclined to read through it all.
Let me know what you find. If nothing here, there are hopefully other pointers using the above term.
post #24 of 24
13sandals, geez, i didn't pay attention to your post--it's the same article. well, the google book link is proving pretty useful. Population Research Institute Review could be a good resource as well. maybe their articles are available to the public. According to Congressional Records, there has been a number of articles about no-consent sterilization campaigns in the 90s.

Just checked out PR Institute Review and their mission is to debunk the overpopulation myth, so sources should probably be checked.
i'm no longer able to access the particular section of congressional record. it says there are no results matching my search! weird.
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