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Having 'accidents' on purpose?

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I have a 27 month old DD. She has been in 'potty trained' for probably about 3-4 months now. She doesn't even wear diapers to bed. She learned to use the toilet mostly on her own and has done really well with it. She doesn't have accidents. that often with me (maybe 1x a week)

DD stays at home with my dd2 (9 months) and our nanny (who is terrific) and her son (14 months) while DH and I go to school during the day (we are both students). They get along really well and I have no worries about the quality of care.

There have been three or four times during the past month when DD has peed on the floor while the nanny is there. I've suggested that DD might have been too busy and forgot to go, etc. But the nanny seems to think she's peeing on the floor purposely (which may actually be the case).

Apparently, everytime she pees on the floor its when the nanny is tending to one of the younger kids (changing a diaper for example, or holding DD2 when she's fussy and telling DD1 that she needs to wait a minute to be held so that DD2 can fall asleep). For that reason, we think she's peeing because she knows that if she does that, she'll have to be dealt with/cleaned up right away.

So...we need ideas for how to deal with this. We don't spank. We don't do timeouts (though sometimes we use a "go to your room until you can calm down and stop [throwing,hitting,whatever]. when you're ready to be gentle you can come out and play with everyone else" it's basically just a way for her to cool down and regain her composure).

I suggested making her clean up the pee off the floor (though, at her age, i'm aware that she would need assistance in getting all the pee off of the floor). The nanny agreed that this sounded like a good idea (because DD would realize she's only creating more work for herself if she pees on the floor on purpose), but pointed out that its difficult to manage that approach with two smaller kids around. (i.e. while waiting for DD1 to take her pee-soaked clothes off and get a towel to clean up the floor, DD2 and the nanny's DS will be making their way over to play in the puddle of pee).

Any original ideas that might work?
post #2 of 3
Oh my gosh! I just posted about a very similar problem! Then I came to the next page and saw your post! And no replies! (So I'm replying.... but I don't have any answers!!!)

That's what we are having our daughter do - wipe up the pee. That would be hard with two other littles around, though. Maybe you could keep a big stack of rags nearby. I am going to have to move ours down out of the cupboard in the laundry room to where DD can reach them if she continues like this!!! We have tried telling DD that she can go back to using diapers if she'd rather not use the potty. I thought maybe today that I'd start with 2 pairs of undies (plus what she's wearing) per day and then when they're all peed in, I will say, "oh no, they're all dirty, here, just put this diaper on instead." Probably would go over like a lead balloon and she'll just go naked.

We don't do spanking or timeouts either, but I'm thinking maybe I'm going to have to bribe her to get her to sit, and then to stay and pee, maybe with jelly beans or something. She has stopped being motivated by wearing the undies, as she was before. Or maybe I can convince her to stay by reading books.

Maybe for your daughter it's more about wanting attention, moreso than a power struggle/independence thing that it seems to be for my DD... not sure. It can be hard for one adult to manage 3 small children, and the little ones often have more pressing needs. I noticed that the peeing problem seemed to crop up a couple days ago when I was babysitting for my cousin's 3 month old. She peed 5 times that day, and not in the potty!!! I think 3 times it was while the baby was over, but then after she left, she was on my lap and I was reading her a book and she peed ON me!!!

Well, hopefully some other moms with experience in this area can help us. Until then, we can be our own support group!!

Good luck to you!
post #3 of 3
Could be for attn, could just be b/c she's bored, but it could also be that she's just testing boundaries. DD (24 mo) is also 90% trained, but sometimes after a few great days of potty, she just decides her undies are the place to go. She'll pee on the floor, poop in her pants, etc. I try not to make a huge deal. I do say, "Yucky! Peepees (or poopies) go in the potty!" And change her clothes, clean her up, and she doesn't get her "reward" for potty.

At this age, it's still a learning process. Sure, they are trained. But they're still very much still learning what is socially acceptable, how long they can hold it, and if the toot is going to be a productive toot or just gas.

I say cut her some slack. She can help clean it up if she's into it but I don't know if I'd use it as a way to teach her the lesson. It seems a little like pushing a dogs nose into an accident to me.
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