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post #61 of 217
Catie-that sounds like what happened to me the other night, too!

I have more to say, but we're headed out of town, so I'll be back later.
post #62 of 217
I need a mag supp... I was woke up this morning by the world's worst charlie horse in my calf. I couldn't get my foot to flex the other way and I was practically pleading with my husband for help, he was apparently incoherent and unable to do so. So finally I found my way to the end of the bed (matress is on the floor) and was able to place my foot on the ground which helped but damn when it's happening you think surely you're going to be stuck with that pain forever. sheesh!

What a way to ring in my 37th week. I'm 'term' now.
post #63 of 217
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Originally Posted by ~Demeter~ View Post
I need a mag supp... I was woke up this morning by the world's worst charlie horse in my calf. I couldn't get my foot to flex the other way and I was practically pleading with my husband for help, he was apparently incoherent and unable to do so. So finally I found my way to the end of the bed (matress is on the floor) and was able to place my foot on the ground which helped but damn when it's happening you think surely you're going to be stuck with that pain forever. sheesh!

What a way to ring in my 37th week. I'm 'term' now.
cal/mag & potassium! i have had those cramps and OUCH. sorry

happy 37 weeks mama!! it feels like we have been waiting for lifetimes, huh!



i had a terrible night. i was coughing so much and every muscle & bone in my body hurts when i do now...my littlest dd kept waking and im still not comfy sleeping on my sides but i want to because i never sleep very well upright . i tried but i tossed and turned. peed like 10 times between midnight and 5am and feel totally drained today. im not sure the acupuncture helped. i want to say i feel a ton better but i dont. maybe clearer if that makes sense, but not better. i dont know. i go between feelling hopeful & hopeless.
my lungs are still super tight and weezy and im thinking of going back to the big city hospital to see the obgyn. i dont know if the dr i saw here knows what he is talking about...but i dont know if maybe im just anxious and over thinking it. being sick like this sure messes with your head.

mz, sounds like your shopping was fun..sorry you woke up sick from your nap take it easy!

catie, ouch. that sounds terrible.
post #64 of 217
My vitamin has a decent amount of cal/mag and pot. I feel for me it's a mag issue... I think my diet is more potassium rich than magnesium, there's an imbalance somewhere anyway, lol. It's usually worse after a long day where I have swelling on my legs and ankles.

I was just talking to a friend about hitting the 37 week mark... the next few weeks are longer than initial 37 to make it to term, lol. Trying to enjoy everything that I do enjoy and really embrace the end of pregnancy.
post #65 of 217
Catie - that sounds miserable.

Fern - It certainly couldn't hurt to go see someone else and see what they think. It sounds like your body has really been put to the test lately.

Nic - Happy term day! Bit by bit, we're all getting there!.

mzminty - Hope you are feeling a bit better by now. I have those stealth colds that sneak up on you out of nowhere. We also tend to push ourselves a bit too hard when it comes to errands and then everyone's miserable at the end of it - DS because he's overstimulated, me because my feet/back/uterus/everything hurt(s), and my husband for having to put up with the two of us whining, lol.

meta - I'm going to see if I can find some mag citrate to try. I started a cal/mag supplement but it really just doesn't seem to be cutting it for the leg cramps.


AFM - my back is killing me today. I've actually got a prescription for massage as needed (this way my supplemental insurance pays), so I think I'll use that this week. Maybe a few times this week. Hope it can help maybe calm down my uterus a bit if I can just have a nice, long, relaxing massage.

Didn't sleep well last night either. I'm really, really getting drained. Had this 'great' idea to drink some OJ to give me a bit of an energy burst. Stupid me. Been popping tums for the last hour. Blah.

I did get started on a very funky pair of baby socks today using some sock yarn I got on clearance. Simple anklet socks (no pattern), and I'm going to make a matching pair for DS. He picked out the very bright yarn.
post #66 of 217
I use mama calm for mag and like it.

Fern for the coughing and dh issues.

Bobbi- I am wearing flip flops and then my big sheepskin boots when it's cool enough.

My hands are so swollen and tight today. But no false labor last night, at least. We did belly paintings last night and got a lot of baby prep done. But I'm still soooo tired from the other night. Right now we're waiting on my mil getting my two little girls' pictures taken so we can go to the pumpkin patch. I need to decorate her cake, too.
post #67 of 217
Thanks for the tip, Desiree - I'll see if I can find some slip on sheepskin ankle boots at a decent price.

I have my first chiro appt tomorrow - I'm almost 36 weeks! I'm going to go chill on the couch and knit - I'm 1/2 finished the 2nd baby sock...

I've got a big pot of beef stock simmering on the stove - soup and plum dumplings are on the menu tonight. Dh has all 3 kids out for a hike on this beautiful fall afternoon.

Fern and Catie - EVERYTHING seems to be harder when we're this pregnant...

to all those in pain. Here's hoping birth solves all our aches and pains so we feel human again....not much longer to wait!
post #68 of 217
We got an armoire for the kids today. Not quite what I had in mind, but it should help immensely with DD's tendency to toss her clothing all over the ground looking for something specific, which is driving me insane with all the bending over. And the price was right. It'll do until we're in a better position to spend several hundred on something perfect.

Our rescue cat that wasn't spayed fast enough had her kittens today. We were wondering which of us was going to go first. I got to see the last one being born, and it was so wonderful to see how easy and simple it was, and how content and proud she looked while resting in between each kitty. And there aren't many better mood-lifters than holding an armful of newborn kitties.
post #69 of 217

Today I birthed....

A brick turd.

I'll share some other stuff first, then I'll hit ya with the TMI (with ample warning).

I can't believe we have TWO more babies!!!! And both were *very* close to my due date! It's very reassuring that both babies seem to be doing wonderfully. I don't know if it's all of these early babies or what, but I keep feeling like this one will come early. ALL of my others came exactly on their due dates - but I just have this feeling. I don't know if it's wishful thinking or just being SO uncomfortable, but I feel it. I just hope it's not until DP gets back on 11/1!

I've come to a decision about our cat. It's horrible, but I don't know what else to do. I came up from the basement today & the STINK of cat piss just overtook me. The cat has FOUR litter boxes, FOUR. And yet she still pees on the carpet. I decided that I'm going to take her to a no-kill shelter or Angel-Cat-Network or something and tell the kids she got out. It's horrible, I'll be a liar and will probably have bad Karma for life, but I don't know what else to do!

I called my close friend and told her my decision (& she was in a wicked mood!) and she said "Good!" but she thought I should just tell the kids we're finding her a new home. My oldest dd has already said that if the cat goes, she goes. She would never forgive me and I can't even *imagine* the grudge she'd hold and how upset she'd be with me.
My friend said "But you'll have a crawling baby next summer!" and I think it just became part of my insane nesting.

The cat MUST GO. At that moment, it all became clear and I didn't even feel bad about it. But now I'm wondering with all of my emotional instability at the present if I'll do something crazy like feel suddenly overwhelmed with guilt & will have to hunt down the stinking cat and get her back.

I can't just make her an outdoor cat because our neighborhood *just* last month announced that stray (or outdoor) cats will be trapped and picked up by animal control (we have a lot of feral cats here.)
She snuck out a month or so ago & was missing for 5 days before she came back. And she honestly tries like hell to sneak out every time someone opens the door - she even got out last week but only for an hour or so.

Ugh. What do you guys think? Would it be *terribly* wrong if I made sure she went somewhere where they'd find her a home? I have no idea how to find a home for a cat myself when she pees all over the place. But perhaps these people who find homes for cats would find her a farm or something.

Nic, I hate those calf cramps! I'm so nervous that I'm going to get one while DP is away and I won't be able to flex my foot on my own! I know magnesium helps me with them.

Catie - I came close to your experience this morning!

***TMI*** alert, consider yourselves warned. Poop talk ahead.

So yesterday I didn't have a great #2, I was clearly getting a little constipated. This morning I felt like I had to go and I sat there and nothing happened. So I took some magnesium, just a little. Then about an hour or two later, I felt like I had to go for sure. So I sat down (thank goddess I keep a good book in the loo) & nothing happened, but I still felt like I had to go. While I was sitting there trying to birth this brick out of my ass, I decided to check my cervix. It's very thin and definitely dilated, but I couldn't tell how much. I could feel uh, something hard on the other side (poop, not baby) & then I REALLY felt like I had to go. Suddenly it was like I was in labor and couldn't stop pushing! I was so freaked out that I *was* in labor & that I was pushing the baby out!! After a few minutes of this, I FINALLY birthed my sh*t-brick that wasn't a baby.
it was so scary that I immediately went to the kitchen & took a crapload of magnesium just for good measure.

Then I went out to run some errands with the two younger ones. I just felt kind of "off." I think I felt a bit off before the bathroom shenanigans, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I felt very contract-y and lots of pressure, but I chalked it up to THE POOP.
We got to the store and I had a *whopper* of a contraction and my undies were a bit damp (I lose my mucous plug every day, it seems.) And the contraction just went on and on and on. The kids wanted to stop in to Trader Joe's and I was like "Kids, we might just need to go home." and they b*tched and moaned and I needed to pee (and maybe poop) anyway, so we walked over. I peed there and was kind of freaked out that I might have my baby on the bathroom floor at Trader Joe's. But I made it out of the store, home and got dinner done and have just continued to feel "off."
Oh, but while dinner was cooking, I had some serious yucky poop - I think I just completely cleaned out. Then I ate dinner, farted around online (no pun intended), ate a pomegranate and had some nasty squirts again. I started to worry that having all of this diarrhea might bring on labor. But it DOES feel good to be completely cleaned out, I'll tell you that.
I know I just need to take a normal amount of magnesium every night before bed and things will be fine. But good goddess, is there anything else we need to deal with? Who needs to birth a brick turd just weeks before birthing a real live baby?

So I just talked about poop for at least 2 paragraphs. Anyone else?

**End of TMI Alert**

I found R.'s 15 yr old son on FB this evening. I wonder if it would be weird to send him a friend request? We've never met (he lives in sunny Mexico) and he's never met his step sisters or brother(s). I'm afraid it might be hard for him to see his Dad's "other family." But it might be cool to be able to share pictures & stuff. I guess I should run it by R. first...

Oh, I finally stepped out of my comfort zone and friended Fern today on FB...and then Nic friended me. So if you're friends with Fern and/or Nic and want to be my friend, you can find me on their walls.
post #70 of 217

This whole post is TMI, fair warning!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA Meta... omfg!! I'm contracting from laughing so hard sorrry... poop stories always make me giggle. I'm sorry you birthed a brick 'o sh!t, I was there the other day... my snafu was iron. I am taking slow fe because I don't wanna run out of the floradix... anyway... so yeah iron, well I don't want to take everything at night so I was trying to get myself into a better routine. I had taken one that evening (they are slow release) and then one in the latish afternoon. Ever since my poops have been totally messed up, hard to get out... I actually bled a bit (from my butt) and the color was totally off. I have to wonder wtf is in there... and really if I should be taking it. I'm thinking if I'm getting constipated (not a usual side effect of an iron supp for me) then I likely do not need the iron. I wish I could afford to get another bottle of floradix but the price tag is crazy ridic for my budget right now. On top of a few other things.

I totally wish I knew when I was birthing, lol, because I'd just hold onto the floradix for near that time. I want to make sure I'm not anemic.. I really don't think that I am but I figure some iron never hurt.
post #71 of 217

Holy Crap, Meta!!! Pun intended!

I have no idea what others are going to say, but I get it about the cat. I would do the EXACT same thing, except mine is too old and now has the kidney disease diagnosis. I'm never keen on lying to the kids about stuff like that, but, you know, she did get out last month, and there is that ordinance now...... I think you gotta do what you gotta do.

A bit freaked out about the new babies myself. I believe both were due after my EDD. I bought some horrible burp rags at Walmart today. They are rough and scratchy and I don't like them, but all of a sudden I was just panicked. Not like a million other things wouldn't work instead, but in my cart they went.

Came home to find that dh had mopped the kitchen floor after he and ds went for a run. I love that man. A mopped kitchen floor at this point is better than.......anything. I'm not sure that I should be allowed to go to the grocery store unsupervised anymore though. Man, the crap I bought tonight....
post #72 of 217
Yea, maybe I need to cut back on the Outback steaks.
post #73 of 217
Meta- I'm not laughing at you, I swear. Is it something going around? Because Catie's issues, my issues, now yours. I didn't share the details originally but they were similar when I thought I was in labor the other night. Either we're gonna go soon or it's something we've all caught!!! Even my magnesium isn't helping right now and I got the dang 'rhoids again. Now I'm off to friend you on facebook!

I'm uploading photos now to share, post them later or tomorrow. I am so tired and elephant swollen. I must go lay down soon. Night girls!
post #74 of 217
Meta I've been having some constipation lately, which is SO not like me (I have IBS that manifests as "sudden onset diarrhea" ). It's weird...I don't remember anythink like it with DS's pregnancy. And, FWIW, I think you are making the right decision with the cat. Not sure about telling vs. not telling, but I think getting it out of the house is a good idea. Have you had health checked to make sure it isn't a physical problem?

HeatherB - hooray! for great crunchy days! It's so wonderful to feel a little less alone in the 'hood

Oooh, kitties! OceletMom, that sounds so sweet. And what a great reminder of how natural and gentle and calm birth can be

So, what's the difference between Mama Calm and regular Calm? We have regular Calm and Kid Calm here, and the biggest difference I see is the flavor and dosing. I am taking a Cal/Mag/Pot supp in addition to my prenatal (and all my other supps!), but I guess it isn't enough if I'm having these sit-on-the-toilet-and-nothing-happens episodes.

Can I just say how great it is that we have a place to talk about pooping trouble without being nervous or embarassed?

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I'm feeling better about my appointment last Friday. I'm realizing some of the good things that came out of it. I also talked to my (former ) homebirth midwife, and she will doula for us during surgery if we decide we want it. I think that will make us, especially DH, feel better about the whole thing and getting what we want from a surgical birth. DH and I are still deciding about placental encapsulation, which she will also do for us (these would both be with a fee, deducted from the refund she owes us). Does anyone have links to good research about placental ingestion, especially over time in capsule form? DH likes the hard research and all I could offer him was anecdotes.

Is anyone else having tingly hands? My right hand is almost always tingly when I wake up, and also if I rest it in a higher-than-usual position, like on the high arm of our couch. I'm not really having the problem with my left, although both are somewhat swollen when I wake up, and I'm noticing my left wrist is sore/achey with typing this reply!
post #75 of 217
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Came home to find that dh had mopped the kitchen floor after he and ds went for a run. I love that man. A mopped kitchen floor at this point is better than.......anything.
I always tell R. that the nicest thing he's ever done for me was scrub the toilet that one time.

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I'm not sure that I should be allowed to go to the grocery store unsupervised anymore though. Man, the crap I bought tonight....
Yea, I hear ya. I thought about scarfing down R.'s leftover strawberry Haagen-Dazs tonight, but after the pomegranate (& the squirts that followed), I figured I'd better hold off on the ice cream.

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Have you had health checked to make sure it isn't a physical problem?
Yep, nothing at all wrong with her. Not physically, at least.

Are you getting adjusted? Sometimes tingly hands can be an upper cervical spine thing. I had a tingly pinky toe once & my chiro adjusted my foot & it went away instantly.
post #76 of 217
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Meta- I'm not laughing at you, I swear. Is it something going around? Because Catie's issues, my issues, now yours. I didn't share the details originally but they were similar when I thought I was in labor the other night. Either we're gonna go soon or it's something we've all caught!!! Even my magnesium isn't helping right now and I got the dang 'rhoids again. Now I'm off to friend you on facebook!

I'm uploading photos now to share, post them later or tomorrow. I am so tired and elephant swollen. I must go lay down soon. Night girls!
I dunno, but I'm so done with this bologna.
post #77 of 217
We had two puppies once upon a time ago... they were shepherd/collie/husky mix. I'm really awesome at training dogs... I have an unusual knack for it. I could not for the friggin' life of me train these dogs. They were rambunctious and crazy and totally out of control. I could get one to do what I wanted but then the other would misbehave and it would spiral from there. Anyway.. my point is after 6 months of this and them tearing about the inside of my (small) house and then the outside yard (ate into my siding, tore into the lattice around the deck and actually started chewing up the deck itself) I gave in and let my husband bring them to a no kill shelter. I told my boys (i only had boys then) that we took them to a farm where they would be free to run and wouldn't be hindered by a small yard/house.

I lied.

I felt terrible about it at the time but I don't think they would have understood... we took them to a shelter because they were AWFUL. I was sad about the decision but knew it was in their best interest. My husband was becoming increasingly upset with the dogs (he doesn't have a lot of patience in that area) and I know I was feeling flustered by them. It was best all around... I'm glad we made the decision because being stuck with animals that have issues really sucked.
post #78 of 217
Thanks Nic. I think I'll be okay with it - I just worry that it would be worse for the kids to always wonder "what ever happened to Luna?" "Did she get eaten by an animal? Run over by a car? Find a good home? Freeze to death?"

Ugh.

Then I think if I tell them that we're taking her to the Angel-Cat-Network, they'll know that she'll have a good home, somewhere.

I can't get soft on this, I can't. Must stand firm!
post #79 of 217
for baby kittens!

Meta- I can't blame you at all. I have one cat that about always misses the box for no reason nowadays. If my ds weren't so attached...then I'm pretty sure those squirrels outside would be awful tasty for her. But she is old and so, you know.

Karen-I had tingly hands a lot with #3-it was carpal tunnel. It went away about 6 months postpartum. Mama calm from what I can tell is the same as the other ones. In fact, I ran out, so I've started using the baby calm with the same dosage as the mama calm-1-3 tsp.
post #80 of 217
chatty, chatty mamas!

yay~ for healthy new "november" babies. i think im ready again. not really but i am at the same time. i think my body needs this baby out before im going to feel much better. nothing else seems to work.

meta: oh my. i dont even know what to say about the poop stuff. that does not sound at all pleasant. maybe all that steak isnt such a good idea
keeping regular is a challenge at this point, huh. i feel blessed that its one thing i haven't had an issue with. even with the pain meds. *knock on wood* one more thing on top of everything else and i would surely die.

on the cat issue, i was there. i decided that since my cats were so old and such a pain with the poop & pee issues in the house that they just HAD to be outside cats. i knew full well that outside cats dont generally last long in my town on the edge of the wild and sure enough they both disappeared within a few months. i dont feel bad. they had long happy well taken care of lives. i do miss them once in a while but it was a health concern and i was going mad. the kids knew what was going on, they knew they were old and they talk about them sometimes, about how they probably got eaten by coyotes, and its pretty matter of fact.. my cat was named luna too. i think i told you that. my 4yo dd is desperate for a kitten and as fond as i am of kittens ( i LOVe cats) i just cant now. maybe when baby is 2 we will think about it. im considering another kind of pet, something small and in a cage, but again, i just dont know if i can really take anything else on right now. life feels overwhelming at best.

i hope that whatever you decide you dont feel guilty. we have to make choices about these things. its part of being a grown up. if something isn't working we need to fix it and you just cant have a baby learning to crawl in a dirty house because your cats cant take care of themselves. i think its completely reasonable to find them new homes.

i cried a lot today. my dp is not doing well emotionally/mentally and he finally told me about it..i just feel like i cant deal with anything else. i feel like he should be able to get over himself to be there for my and the kids, but i guess he just cant. i dont know what i can do to help him and i sure can do much else. i got into the bath sobbing and cried for a good hour in there..when i got out my face was all red and blotchy. i looked terrible.

i tried to do some cooking and cleaning yesterday and i payed for it last night not being able to sleep because i was in so much pain and then i sleeped for like 5 hours this afternoon without waking up. when i did get up to do stuff i just coughed and coughed, then i really needed to pee and while i was peeing i coughed and threw up in my mouth and proceeded to projectile puke till my stomach was empty. all that was in there was liquid anyways. i ate some oatmeal early this am and some soup with kale this afternoon. the heartburn is back too im so over this.

tomorrow im getting out the birth pool and everything else we need for a water birth. im going to wash all of the baby clothes and diapers that need it. my kids are going to sleep over at my best friends house and my sister is going to clean out the fridge and help me with some other stuff i want to get done. i see my midwife and im going to ask her about starting some herbs to get this baby coming along. it may not work but its worth a try.

ellen, seriously, your dp sounds amazing.
karen, im glad that you are working through your issues with the C/S and finding ways to make it easier for you. i think a doula is a great idea!



and joy for baby kittens. one of my first experiences with birth was watching my cat luna give birth, i think i was 16 at the time. she was so funny. she lay on her back and pushed her back legs against my hands while she laboured. most of her babies were born in the caul and she oh so gently and carefully cleaned them off one by one. truly amazing to watch and be part of. i felt very blessed that she let me be there, i know cats can be secretive about birth and i knew then i wanted to have home births!
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