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post #41 of 69

DD has officially weaned at 15 1/2 months. greensad.gif 

She cut back to only 2 sessions a day right before 15 months (I was almost 10 weeks) and it's now been at least 2 weeks since she's nursed. It's sad to me but does make it easier on me for this pregnancy. She just turned 16 months.

post #42 of 69

Well 6 nights in to nightweaning & it's going so well!!!  DD has been sleeping straight through the night & only on one night has she asked to nurse between 8pm & 5am.  Ahhhh so nice!  The one night she was semi-awake & asked to nurse several times but I just told her that the “milkies” were asleep & that she could nurse in the morning.  She complained a little but then just rolled over & went back to sleep.  I had honestly expected to need to have extensive daytime talks to prepare & then lots of night time crying.  Wow I guess I didn’t give her enough credit though I am a little worried about what will happen when her next teeth come in.  Though I’m still struggling with insomnia this has gone a long way to help me feel more rested.

The one place that has gotten more difficult though is bedtime.  At 26 mos she has nursed to sleep every night until now & with the drop in supply it’s not enough to get her to sleep anymore.  We still nurse for a few mins but then I’ve been having to lay with her, pat, sing & “be boring” for up to an hour and a half some nights.  It’s a change from our 20 min previous routine but I chalk it up to her learning to settle herself & put herself to sleep.  Hopefully time will help with this..

post #43 of 69

We are NWing too- have been 2 nights without nursing until morning.  DS is still waking A LOT.  He is not asking to nurse though and doesn't seem to be upset about not nursing, but the waking seems worse.  He is not sleeping as deeply or something.  I am really hoping this will get better in a few nights or something!

 

Congrats CinCanada!  I hope your insomnia lets up so you can finally sleep.  I am dreading the time when nursing to sleep for bed doesn't work anymore.  I do notice DS drops off quicker when he doesn't overnap, nap too late, and when he has a lot of exercise/fun time before bed.

post #44 of 69

Having a hard time here with my 19 mo old.... i just get so agitated when he nurses. Mostly the 530 am nurse.  He asks several times a day, usually when tired, but doesn't seem to be sucking.  He just seems to be hanging on the boob. totally crazy making. Dh took him this am and fed him and that seemed to help, but i noticed he nursed more during the day.  I also saw my self  nursing longer and/ or tandem, but we will see. I tried tandem last time for a few weeks but dd also was just hanging on the boob and had lost the art of sucking.  I just didn't have the patience to teach two kids how to nurse....

post #45 of 69

I spoke too soon the other night he ended up feeding twice before bed as well as during the night and the next day 

post #46 of 69

Ok, I am going to attempt a post with this new board here....

 

 

DS is 25 months and still going strong. I am 13 weeks. I night weaned him really early in the pregnancy because I was so sick that I just could not nurse him at night anymore. He is doing excellent with the night weaning!! He is still nursing a ton when I am home. I have also noticed that I still have a decent supply of milk. I was surprised because I had to go out of town for 4 days, and I thought I would dry up and he would wean, but he did not! So, at this point it looks like I will be tandem nursing again... I just weaned DD, who is 4, back in July.... the never ending nursing cycle continues at out house!!

post #47 of 69

my supply seems to have really changed the last few weeks. (I am 13wks now) I hadn't noticed any change at the start, but now, I am noticing not as many letdowns, and certainly not as strong ones when they do happen (they used to hurt!) Z also is switching back and forth back and forth ad nauseum when he nurses - I'm guessing since there is so little?

 

its frustrating since he still LOVES to nurse. And I don't mind nursing, but now nursing takes so much longer, since there's less milk. Luckily it doesn't seem to hurt as much these last few weeks.

 

my supply upped a tiny bit over last weekend - Z had a fever, and was nursing constantly, but as soon as he was better, it dropped again, so fast!

 

I can't tell if its the pregnancy, or more because I am not pumping at work anymore - so there is a 7 hour stretch or so of no nursing, but he nurses SO much when I am home (2x in the AM at least, and then 3-5x in the PM, and 1-2x overnight) that I would think that would make up for it?

 

is there anything I can do to keep it up? I'd rather not pump if I can avoid it, I have a feeling that would hurt a bit more than it used to.

 

I also was going to try nightweaning him soon, since I am SO tired and the insomnia I get is rough - he wakes up at 3am to nurse, then goes back to sleep, and then I can't! but I am worried that if I do nightwean the supply will drop even more?

 

He's almost 17mos, I really don't want him to wean yet :( I know tandeming can be hard but I'd be up for trying it. I'd at least want to wait until he was 20+mos before weaning if I did have to wean before the babe came. I was hoping I'd be fine through the second trimester I guess!

post #48 of 69
Thread Starter 

Seafox:

Everyone's experience is different when it comes to what's needed in terms of keeping supply up, but it's possible that the not pumping at work wouldn't be an issue if you weren't pregnant, but might be an issue because you are pregnant, kwim?  It seems like during pregnancy, alot of women's supplies are more susceptible to reduction with any cutting back.  I know for me, DS nightweaned on his own around the start of pregnancy, and I have seen a huge drop in supply (nursing hurts more now that it did early on, cause I am pretty much nursing dry at this point).  But it's hard to piece out whether that would have happened anyway with the pregnancy, regardless of his nighttime patterns.

 

I don't think fenugreek and blessed thistle are recommended during pregnancy, so instead of going the herbal route, you might be able to try food related tricks for upping supply - oatmeal every morning for breakfast, that kind of thing.

 

Also, I have no idea about this in pregnancy, but kellymom has some info on calcium/magnesium for supply dips related to menstrual cycle.  It might be worth asking your midwife/doctor about adding a cal/mag supplement to see if it might help (you need calcium for baby anyway, right?)

http://www.kellymom.com/herbal/natural-treatments.html#calcium

 

He is definitely nursing a good number of times during the day!  I hope that his frequent nursing plus a few little prods from oatmeal and the like will get you through till colostrum comes in :)

post #49 of 69

Good to know. It does seem like my supply is more 'sensitive' now, if that makes sense. I had an oversupply for so long, its weird to have it go the other way! I'm guessing if I was not pregnant that not pumping wouldn't have affected it this much at all. Even a month ago it seemed fine, its only been these last few weeks where its really dropped.

 

I do love oatmeal, and its that time of year, so Ill try that! Ill ask my ob/gyn too if she has any suggestions. I am taking prenatals that I think have cal/mag, but maybe not as much as they recommend for upping supply. I could I suppose try pumping a bit, but ow, that just isn't appealing right now! But maybe Ill try it if all else fails.
 

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Seafox:

Everyone's experience is different when it comes to what's needed in terms of keeping supply up, but it's possible that the not pumping at work wouldn't be an issue if you weren't pregnant, but might be an issue because you are pregnant, kwim?  It seems like during pregnancy, alot of women's supplies are more susceptible to reduction with any cutting back.  I know for me, DS nightweaned on his own around the start of pregnancy, and I have seen a huge drop in supply (nursing hurts more now that it did early on, cause I am pretty much nursing dry at this point).  But it's hard to piece out whether that would have happened anyway with the pregnancy, regardless of his nighttime patterns.

 

I don't think fenugreek and blessed thistle are recommended during pregnancy, so instead of going the herbal route, you might be able to try food related tricks for upping supply - oatmeal every morning for breakfast, that kind of thing.

 

Also, I have no idea about this in pregnancy, but kellymom has some info on calcium/magnesium for supply dips related to menstrual cycle.  It might be worth asking your midwife/doctor about adding a cal/mag supplement to see if it might help (you need calcium for baby anyway, right?)

http://www.kellymom.com/herbal/natural-treatments.html#calcium

 

He is definitely nursing a good number of times during the day!  I hope that his frequent nursing plus a few little prods from oatmeal and the like will get you through till colostrum comes in :)

post #50 of 69

we're down to very sporadic nursing :( i'm gone all day at work, was away for two days at a conference last week, and the past two nights this week i've had church events in the evening. so he only nursed upon waking yesterday and today. that was it. i know i'm still making milk because i was able to hand-express when i was gone last week, but i imagine my supply is essentially nil these days. i'm 17 weeks today.

post #51 of 69

I am officialy done.  My DD, Hana, turned 3 yrs old in September so I am so thrilled to have made it a full 3 yrs and a few mths :-)  In the last few weeks my nips became horribly sensitive and we had been gradually going away from nursing.  I explained that once the new baby comes she can have "Mommy Milk" in a cup that I pump.  I've told her that many times now and she seems to be happy.  I am so happy that I can still lay down with her at night and she will snuggle in the crook of my arm and put her head on my chest.  I think she now realizes that Mom can love and snuggle her to sleep without nursing.  I've always used being preggo to wean my two girls so I'm not sure what will happen with child #3.  This is definitely our last and, God willing, I have always had an awesome supply.  Guess we'll just do lots of child lead weaning until mom is too tired.  LOL

post #52 of 69

DS3 hasn't been nursing at all really.  When he does nurse he latches on then sort of stays there a minute before popping off.  He's not sucking at all.  I'm guessing there's no milk there.

 

I think I will keep trying every few days because I feel bad about him weaning, but at the same time it's easier for me for him not to nurse.  I'm really (surprisingly) not terribly tender but I definitely have that weird pregnancy feeling of needing to *get him off of me* ...  

 

Things were easier with DS2 because he was older and I felt mostly fine with encouraging him to wean.  But I would have liked DS3 to nurse a little longer.  He's just at 25 months now.

post #53 of 69
Thread Starter 

My guy is still nursing a few times a day (as little as 2 times and as many as maybe 4 or so) but I can tell he's really missing the milk and the amount of time he used to spend at the breast...he tells me about 1000 times a day that he loves my boobies.  Poor kid.  I am trying not to refuse most of the time, but I am SO sore...it's like the soreness is the same as the beginning of pregnancy, or worse, and then on top of that the milk is pretty much gone so I'm nursing dry and so the discomfort doesn't really dissipate.  At least earlier on, once I had a letdown it got a lot more comfortable.  Ouchie.

 

I almost started wondering if maybe I have thrush or something (it doesn't feel like thrush is described, but then I've never had it before, so I can't say that definitively!).  But then I realized that both nipples feel equally tender and sore, and he has only been nursing on one side for over a month.  So I am doubting I have developed thrush on the totally dried up side!  Must just be regular soreness.

post #54 of 69

I spent today at home with DD and she asked to nurse 5 times. One of the times she got distracted and never actually nursed but I still found the frequency promising. Our nursing sessions had gone down to 1-2x a day.  She night weaned recently, she had stopped waking up every night so the few times that she did I told her that the boobs were sleeping. She accepts that and continues sleeping.

post #55 of 69

My daughter - 22 months still nurses anywhere from 5 - 10 times a day and I have to say that it's the most painful thing ever... at least for the first minute or two.  Sometimes when she's nursed practically all day (days she isn't in school or where we aren't on outings), I find myself getting so irritated when she is nursing. I'm hoping we can overcome this because I want nursing to go back to being a pleasant experience for both of us.  Also - she likes to play with my other nipple while she nurses and fights, screams and cries when I try to block it from her.  So.. this most certainly contributes to some of the irritation.  Any advice?  Also - I'm starting to get a little worried about tandem nursing.  Those of you who have... when did you start talking about it with your kiddo so they were prepared when the baby arrived?

post #56 of 69

I am getting worried about having a low milk supply. My DD is 9 months old and I plan on nursing her for as long as she wants. Right now she night nurses a lot, and I do have to admit that it gets tiresome, but I feel that she really needs these feedings. She nurses every few hours and is very interested in solid foods which she gets to try out a few times a day. When I tried pumping the other day (I use a hand pump) it was harder than usual to get any milk into the bottle, it took like 10 minutes to get almost an ounce. She seems to be thinning out, which I don't know if that is normal since she is moving around so much now? Anyways, I am really worried. Is there any way to find out if you are producing enough milk? Anything I can do to boost production? What do I do when my colostrum comes in? Do I need to start supplementing her with other liquids? I don't want to have to use formula:(  Thank you ladies!!!

post #57 of 69

I think that some of the supplements to boast milk production are ok while pregnant, there may be something on Jack Newman's page.  Other than that I'd suggest oatmeal and to make sure to eat and drink well.

post #58 of 69
Thread Starter 

yosemite roses...see post #48 for a couple of ideas. 

 

Crystalyn, I don't have any experience on preparing for tandem, but I know the irritation of which you speak.  My nipples seem more sensitive and tender now than they were in the first trimester.  How would you feel about some of the nursing sessions, trying to do a countdown (i.e. Mommy is going to count to 10 or 20 and then it will be time to do X) and then redirecting to another activity....just at the times when you really feel you are going to lose it if you have to continue.  Maybe those little breaks will give you more stamina for the other nursing sessions.  Nursing for long periods when it's irritating like that is a recipe for burnout. :hug

 

The only other suggestion I have is practicing relaxation techniques for labour during those uncomfortable times.

 

It is so tough.  I find myself feeling bad for being irritated with my guy.  But it's SO normal to feel this way...there is a lot of demand on our bodies right now!

post #59 of 69

With DD I started talking about it right away. We would talk about the baby, and that she would have to share her milk. I would tell her it would be OK because I would have more milk when the new baby came. She had no problem with it. She LOVED it when my milk came in... I swear I had 2 newborns!!

 

This time I have no idea. DS is actually a little older than DD was, but for some reason he seems less able to grasp the concept. I also keep hoping he will wean... although I am pretty sure that won't happen!! I think you need to prepare yourself for tandem nursing too. It was pretty draining in the early days, and then later on when you have 2 bigger kids nursing.  DD just weaned in July, and she was 4. DS is 2. I am not really looking forward to doing it again, but I will do it if that is what DS wants. 

post #60 of 69

Aughhh! My littlest nurses sometimes and she tried today and it hurt like hell. It was some of the worst pain of my entire life. I told her that was it. I don't know how you guys are doing it?

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