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post #61 of 90
bluepetals,
Im glad you had a better experience. Did your OB/FP Dr. know you were planning a homebirth? Im just not a good liar so the end of my pregnancy would have been miserable for me. I couldnt even figure out the logistics of that. Did I just call my Doc after the HB and say, well.. baby came at home.. oh, and by the way, I dont plan on doing any post partum visits..thanks for the memories. Did you have to do Shadowcare even though you had a vaginal delivery with your first?


samstress,


When it rains, it pours, huh?

That sounds like alot of stuff to process at once.

It sucks that midwives in your area are so expensive. Around here they are anywhere from 2800-3800. If you did shadow care and just transferred to the midwife at 36 weeks for the final prenatals and the birth that is even cheaper. I dont know if that is an option where you are. Im so sorry that you cant have midwifery care during your pregnancy. All insurance should cover midwives. Are you in an illegal HB state?

I hope the school can work something out for your DD's tuition.



Evergreen, it felt like a police state. I know Im oversensitive about these things but I havent really even went to more then a handful of doctor's visits in a very very long time. And my doctor's experiences before that were with a series of pharmacuetical drug pushers who booked in into a 10 minute time slot and had no real ability to evaluate the complexities that were me I gave up on all that and decided it was kind of up to me to figure out how to heal thyself. Since then, I just havent had ailments that Doctors could help me more with then changes to my diet, exercise, therapy modalities, and herbs could. So, the weirdness of the OB care when Im used to not just my own experience with pregnancy, but 9 years of sitting with clients or as a student is just heartbreaking. A woman came into the office obviously in transition. They made her wait in the waiting room with sick people (it's one of those big multicare places) for 30 minutes! I just wanted to cry for her. She was in the room next to me where they made her wait for another 20 minutes...and they checked her and then freaked out because she was 8cm.

Well, duh. I coulda told you she was atleast 7 by looking at her an hour ago! That woman woulda had her baby hours ago if she was being attended by a homebirth midwife.

It's such a growing, changing time of life.. It breaks my heart that so many women get shuffled through the fear factory and told what their bodies will be allowed to do. "Ill *let* you to go to 42 weeks". And this is a good response! Women seeking VBACs cry tears of joy to have a doc that will give them 2 extra weeks to gestate in peace.

Anyway, Im so thankful to live somewhere that has so many options for me. So so so thankful.



Jrsmom,
It sounds like your Dr. is willing to think about it.. is he attached to any conglomerate healthcare system? I hate that healthcare systems get to make so many decisions for the doctors. As if dealing with the disparity in power between and OB and a laboring/pregnant woman werent enough, now we have multibillion dollar industries controlling policies from a boardroom.

I read your post about your anxiety around the births. It sounds like you have done everything you possibly could to birth your babies vaginally at home. You are a chiropracter. You know bones. Maybe doing the Pink Kit exercises for pelvic mapping will help you have even more peace with knowing if you do have actual CPD or if there are places in your pelvis you could create more room to help the baby engage.

I hope you get an empowered birth you feel good about.


nixnc,
I think a friendly environment is so important with a care provider. Im so glad you found a group of people who like what they do.
post #62 of 90
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Originally Posted by MamaChef View Post



A woman came into the office obviously in transition. They made her wait in the waiting room with sick people (it's one of those big multicare places) for 30 minutes! I just wanted to cry for her. She was in the room next to me where they made her wait for another 20 minutes...and they checked her and then freaked out because she was 8cm.

Well, duh. I coulda told you she was atleast 7 by looking at her an hour ago! That woman woulda had her baby hours ago if she was being attended by a homebirth midwife.

Holy Crap! I wonder why she didn't go tot the hospital?!?!?!

samstress . that is so stressful. I am so sorry. This economy sucks. Dh is meeting with a recruiter today and going back into the Army at the age of 38 because he can't find a job in his field. I wish things could just be happy.
post #63 of 90
MamaChef - So glad you have found a better situation now. I would HATE having to go to two sets of doctors. Your midwife would end up having to sort things out and calm you down from all the stress the doctor gave you and who needs that during pregnancy.

Samstress - Oh dear! Those prices do seem a bit high. The prices for HB are not even that high in San Francisco. Maybe you can shop around or ask for a discount
post #64 of 90
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bluepetals,
Im glad you had a better experience. Did your OB/FP Dr. know you were planning a homebirth? Im just not a good liar so the end of my pregnancy would have been miserable for me. I couldnt even figure out the logistics of that. Did I just call my Doc after the HB and say, well.. baby came at home.. oh, and by the way, I dont plan on doing any post partum visits..thanks for the memories. Did you have to do Shadowcare even though you had a vaginal delivery with your first?
With my previous pregnancy, midwifery in my province was alegal - as in, not illegal, but not regulated, either. I paid out of pocket for midwifery services, but since they had no standing to order labs etc and no hospital privileges, the typical setup was that you also saw a doctor for shared care (I went every month to see my midwife, and every two months to the doctor). That way, I could have blood work etc (paid for under the provincial system - I'm Canadian), and if for whatever reason I had to go to hospital for the birth, I wouldn't be showing up to just whoever was on call...the doc I was seeing would come and attend the birth, with the midwife there with me for support. I specifically asked to be referred to a family doctor who had worked with the midwives lots of times before, so she was very aware that I was planning a homebirth and was supportive of it (I have had great luck with family docs...my first birth was in hospital with family doc and she was pretty great, too). All in all, a pretty sweet setup! I think she did want to see me after baby arrived at home, but I went to see my own family doctor instead (I figured my doc would want to see me, too, and didn't relish two different trips into town!). I did send her a photo birth announcement with a big thank you for her support for homebirth

This time around, midwifery is regulated and paid for under the health care system. No double appointments required (assuming all goes perfectly - always the chance I would need a consult or whatever). Now I just have to get in with them for care....still waiting to hear back and kinda getting nervous!
post #65 of 90
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so we're going to hang out and play plants vs. zombies and do nothing instead. weee!
oh boy pvz rocks! I LOVE that game! I don't know how many hours wasted on that game! Did you know they have an iPod app? LOL

DH: It's after midnight, what are you doing up?
Me: I can't sleep, so I'm killing some zombies.
post #66 of 90
Well, this week has been a little worse than last week. I still feel alot better but have thrown up twice..mostly from eating either the wrong food or too much. I swear, this baby hates anything too junky, too sugary, or just too much. Not feeling nauseous any other time though really, just when I eat too much or if I induldge in something not so great for me. Still overall feeling much better. I'm planning a playdate for saturday with the families from my first birthing class that I attended. We were all having mostly our first babies at the same time and really bonded in that short 6 week birthing from within class. Two years later, we've stayed in touch and have had regular playdates. We're all going to the pumpkin patch and have lunch. I can't wait!
post #67 of 90
We went to our first prenatal visit today I am so happy with the midwife and the student midwife that will be attending the birth. We also meet with the exact same people every single time we have a prenatal visit as who will be at the birth, which is just awesome in my opinion. We had to have the horrid genetics testing talk, as CA requires it, and they have also changed the laws so if you choose to have one genetic test you HAVE TO have them all, which I think is just stupid, but whatever, we're not doing it anyway.
It was too early for her to try to find a heartbeat with the doppler, she wouldn't even try, but it was an awesome visit. I've gained 6lbs in the last two months, which is not that bad of a baby weight gain. I seriously think at least 2 of that is just boobs.
Anyway it was awesome!! YAY!!!
I also think (knock on wood) that I'm starting to feel better.
post #68 of 90
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Originally Posted by becca_howell View Post
oh boy pvz rocks! I LOVE that game! I don't know how many hours wasted on that game! Did you know they have an iPod app? LOL

DH: It's after midnight, what are you doing up?
Me: I can't sleep, so I'm killing some zombies.


yes...i spend WAY too much time playing this game. haye loves it!
post #69 of 90
Morning mamas!
11 days left in first tri and since I didn't really have ms I'm feeling more preg than ever. My head is swimming with hormones and last night I was all agitated and antsy and let out this primal yell when we didn't have spicy mustard in the house. it knocked one of my kitties off the chair. The good news was that spicy sausage with sauteed green and orange peppers and onions on whole wheat rolls ROCKED. we did have Dijon mustard at least.

In the am my head is just throbby with progesterone.

Long day today... health fair for 6 hrs.

Dh and I have gotten over a hump he was not wanting to touch my belly earlier this week. And that set me off but we've talked it through and are doing better than ever.
Hugs all around.
post #70 of 90
bluepetals,
That sounds a little better then what it means typically here, which is you go to an OB, never mentioning that you are thinking of having a homebirth, doing all the appts twice. So at the end you'd be going to both of them weekly. It feels super sneaky and just not how I wanted to feel about my care.

Im so glad for you that it will be more simple this time. How much longer do you think it will be before you hear back about if they take you or not? That would drive me mad.

MrsBone,

That's so great that you stayed in touch. I used to do group child birth classes and loved the reunions. I hope you have a fun playdate!

elonwy,

Continuity of care is so awesome. I love that there is actual relationship that develops through all the visits. It's so much more comfortable to birth with people you trust.

So glad you had a great visit!

annaconda,
Arent hormones fun? LOL. We had spicy seitan sausage "Seattle" style (cream cheese, bubbies kraut, carmelized onions, brown mustard) and they were sooo good. Ive been craving seitan phillies.


We went to the zoo yesterday and ate yummy vegetarian thai food for lunch. It felt good to get out and get some exercise. DD loves the zoo and it was nice getting to spend the day with her and hubby. I definitely feel alot better then I have been. Hoping it just keeps on continuing.
post #71 of 90
Zomg that sounds DIVINE. Anything with cream cheese. Ok... having that next week.
Also beg Thai food and zoo walking - Fun!
post #72 of 90
It's so nice to hear about people starting feel better. I hope everyone can say that soon!

MamaChef, your guess is as good as mine about when I'll hear back, I think I have followed up a few times, the office administrator says that every time they sit down to go through the stack of files, a birth comes up and they get called away. I thought I was going to hear by last Friday/Monday, but still nothing.
post #73 of 90
i'm a little disappointed because my husband doesn't understand why i want t see a midwife and he is scared of what is going to happen in case of an emergency. he feels he doesn't have a say so because it is my body and he also feels the reason i want to go with a midwife is solely because they are more personable than docs. he feels docs have more training and know more about how the body works than someone that hasn't had the "formal education."

i tried to explain that a midwife is more about allowing a woman to give birth the way nature intended and being more in tune to a female's state of mind about what feels right with our bodies. he says it is all about "feelings."

while i want him to be more comfortable with a midwife, i don't want him to be a nervous wreck this entire pregnancy over it because that will just cause me more stress.

i told him to write down his questions and concerns for our appt on monday. i also assured him that the midwife practice i am attending is part of a physician's group affiliated with the University of Chapel Hill, so there are docs in the practice for any emergency imaginable.

anyone have any advice?
post #74 of 90
nixnc, do you have netflix?? if you do, watch the business of being born. if you don't, find it and get your husband to watch it with you!!!!! seriously. i bet it would ease a lot of his fears.
post #75 of 90
i do have netflix. i will do that. thanks!
post #76 of 90
nixnc, Are you talking about a seeing a Certified Professional Midwife (homebirth, or birth center births usually) or a Nurse Midwife who works in a group with OBs and delivers in hospital?

bluepetals, Crossing all my fingers and toes for you that you get a call back soon.
post #77 of 90
NixNC, which midwife are you using. I have always used midwives out of Wilmington. One for a hospital birth and two for homebirth (including this one). A lot of midwives are trained a lot better for normal childbirth than doctors. In NC, all CNM's must be supervised by a doctor whom they consult about any complications that might arise. It's really the best of both worlds because you are getting the personal attention and support of a midwife (who is very knowledgable herself) and the education and knowledge of an actual doctor.
post #78 of 90
Thread Starter 
nixnc- I think once he meets the midwife he'll be fine. Plus in those big practices you often get whomever is on call unless you specifically request a midwife so even if you were an OB patient you'd still see a midwife for an occasional appt. and perhaps birth.

Farrrrrrk! I am still sooooo sick. I am miserable.
post #79 of 90
camprunner--i am using university physicians.

the midwife is part of a physicians group and i will be delivering at the hospital.

thanks for the info guys.
post #80 of 90
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camprunner--i am using university physicians.

the midwife is part of a physicians group and i will be delivering at the hospital.

thanks for the info guys.
I saw McBride for my first one. I looked it up and it looks like she works for the same practice. If you are used to working with an OB, I think you will really like her. I'm not familiar with Carney though. If you change your mind and decide to home birth, do NOT tell them. McBride has been known to drop patients for even suspecting.
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