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Ex was supposed to come by today...

post #1 of 36
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Quick background for those who don't know: the father of the baby that I'm currently pregnant with turned out to be an emotionally abusive alcoholic, to put it simply. I am staying with a friend until I can figure out wtf I'm going to do.

I have been trying to contact him every week for the past four weeks. I have things that I need from his place (I haven't gotten everything because I don't have anywhere to put it all and I can't hardly get a hold of him to figure it out) and I needed to discuss getting money so I can buy stuff for the baby (namely, cloth diapers and the like). He has no cell phone (or at least hasn't told me if he got one) so my only form of contact is to call him at work.

I talked to him Friday. Just said that I needed some things and some money for baby stuff. He said he would be in town Monday (today - he lives an hour away) and that he would call me Saturday so he could write it all down, yadda yadda. Never called, no surprise there. So I called him yesterday (Sunday). He wrote down what I needed. He said he would be here around noon. I asked that he call me before he left just in case I forgot anything else I needed and he said he would. He said he was bringing his ex (the same girl he brought when he FINALLY picked me up from Oklahoma after just leaving me there for an extra week, the girl I had no problem with until that night when they physically tried to remove me from the car, when she tried to come after me physically and he had to hold her back, and they slept in her apartment while I slept in the car - oh, and the girl who didn't call me the night that he kicked me out of the car at 4am stranded alone with no money, food, phone or place to sleep, and he went to her place to sleep and she just didn't bother to call me to let me know he was there when she KNEW I was stranded alone in a dangerous area). I told him that he was to bring the stuff up to the house ALONE, that I did not want to see or deal with her. He agreed.

It's now 12:30...I have not received a call, nor has he shown up. I'm not surprised that he hasn't shown up yet. This isn't work (although all the times he's been late it was because he was out drinking, so clearly work isn't terribly important either). This isn't some appointment. So he has no motivation to be timely. Therefore I'm not surprised at all. But I am irritated. I still think he'll probably show up (not putting too much faith into it, but I'm putting any faith in it which is more than I do for anything else he says he'll do, like when he says he'll call me). He probably won't call before he leaves, so I won't be able to tell him to bring something that I forgot. And I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks it's perfectly okay for his ex to walk up with him.

What do you want to bet he got nice and drunk last night and that's why he's not here? Drunk is almost always the answer for everything with him.
post #2 of 36
I'm so sorry you're getting jerked around by an alkie. I truly sympathize.
post #3 of 36
You need to stop relying on him for anything. Get state aid, get stuff for your baby without his help. If you need help after the baby is born file for child support. If he doesn't want to help with the baby, he won't - so don't rely on him. Especially after all that he's done to you.
post #4 of 36
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And now, three hours after he was supposed to BE here, he calls. I mentioned the one thing I forgot to tell him to bring before (a box of baby stuff) and mentioned that I don't know if my wraps are in there, but if he could look for those and bring them. He mumbled some reply about, "Well I'm not going to go around looking for them..." UAV. He said he would be here in about an hour.

Thyra, I'm not relying on him at all. I'm trying to get money out of him for baby stuff since it doesn't hurt to try. If he does it, great. But when I'm thinking about things I'm making the assumption that I won't see another dime from him. I learned that lesson with DS's biodad (and, really, my big sister was the one who drilled it into me very early on then because her daughter's biodad only rarely pays when he gets a job for a month or two and some CS is taken out before he notices and quits). I can't get all my stuff right now because I don't have anywhere to store it...I'm sleeping on a friend's couch right now as it is. I'm going to talk to my parents and see if I can store my stuff at their place, but it'll be a while before I can get it. Ugh.
post #5 of 36
Find a way to get him out of your life personally. Drop off his radar. No calls, no writing, nothing. You are better off and your child will be better of without this... I hesistate to say man... in your lives. The state can help. That's why the system is there and it works better for pregnant women than anyone else. They can get you cheap housing, medical, WIC, food stamps, temporary cash assistance. If you want help, just PM me. I'll see what I can do. But eliminate him from your life....honestly... do you want this for the next 18 years? It's not worth it...
post #6 of 36
another vote for vanishing. it is so much better for a child to know no father, than to know one like this. and if he does anything for you or the baby, at all, then that can make such types feel like they have a 'right' to the baby, even though he is not fit to be a parent.
post #7 of 36
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I feel like crying. He just came by and I almost wish he had been a total and complete UAV. His ex (the girl I mentioned above) never came up to the apartment, I suppose she stayed in the car (I didn't look anywhere near the parking lot). He misunderstood which external hard drive I was referring to (he thought I meant mine, I meant his because it has my stuff) and he also forgot his laptop (which has files of mine and my notebook and workbooks for school are in the bag with the laptop) so he said he would probably be by Wednesday.

When I asked about my mail (namely, I needed my statement from Medicaid saying I was covered for the month of October) he kind of laughed and said, "They might've gotten burned, I don't know..." Which, to me, translates as, "I had friends over and we were drunk and I've spewed so much BS about you to them that they thought it would be fun to burn some of your stuff. Oops." I told him that those papers were very important and that he seriously needs to tell them that it is NOT their place to touch other peoples stuff. He said he "did his part" in keeping it safe, as if they just did it and there was nothing he could do about it. Um, hello? Don't have people over who won't respect other peoples stuff. I would be LIVID if someone did that, whether or not it was my stuff. But then again I have more respectful friends...most of them would probably WANT to burn my ex's stuff, but they would at least ask beforehand. He didn't mention this when I talked to him yesterday, so chances are it happened last night...I mean, it makes the most sense. They're all drunk and irresponsible, and he is talking about how he's going to have to see me the next day and bring me some of my stuff. Of course they're going to say, "Well then let's burn it!"

The number he called me from today is his, so apparently he got a cell phone. I'm rather surprised that he willingly gave me the number.

The worst part is he asked how I was doing (though, mind you, he didn't ask how BABY was doing and didn't ask anything else when I replied with a simple, "I'm fine."). He asked if I was still moving to Oklahoma. When I discussed the breast pump issue (I need a Symphony, so not cheap) and I went over the reasons why and the finances (could get it off craigslist for cheap and then resell for the same amount afterwards to give him his money back) he just did a lot of nodding...no protesting, which was shocking. He offered to talk to his dad (who works at a hospital) and see if he could pull some strings. I can't. effing. believe. that he was decent. He could've been better (as in, asked specifically about baby, not let his effing idiot friends burn my stuff, etc.) but...he was decent. And THAT is what makes me want to cry. I don't ever want him to show me a shred of decency again. I don't want him in my life. I don't want him in my baby's life. And I don't want to want him in our lives. And if he continues with the decency thing, I'm afraid I eventually will want him in our lives (not in a romantic way, I don't see that EVER happening, but as a co-parent and father to my child). And if I get sucked into that, I'm afraid it will make things worse because I know he will probably pull more BS like he has nearly the entire time we've known each other.

post #8 of 36
Cut your losses and distance yourself, don't contact him unless he contacts you- just let him, and the illusion of his support- go.

Get a PO box, or use the address you're staying at for mail.

If you have to let go of some stuff in the process- let go of the stuff.

It's time to have your own place, your own job, or income of some sort. You need to not have to rely on him for anything at all- or even ask.
post #9 of 36
Get your mail forwarded to a friends place, someone you can trust. Ask first, make sure they know its coming, and ask them to keep it for you until you can pick it up. Contact Medicaid, and update your address to that address. Or have all your mail sent to your parents.

Stop trying to get your things back, unless you have a male friend who can go with you to your ex's house to get it. Get a storage unit to keep it all in. I say male friend b/c you want someone who your ex will relate to on some level and be nice to. My ex would NEVER take a female friend of mine seriously, but a male friend he would have been nicer.

Then, cut him out of your life. Don't call him, don't talk to him, don't answer his calls. Just cut him out.
post #10 of 36
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I can't afford storage. I have no money, at all. I did talk to my dad and I'll see if I can store some stuff there.

I can't change the address to my Medicaid because it goes through DHS along with my food stamps, so that would change, and that would mean I will have to explain that I'm not living there technically and he's not getting his part of the food stamps (his choice) and that would mean reduced food stamps. Which would be fine, except that it's literally my rent where I'm staying. It's my financial contribution to keep a roof over my head. So, at worst, I'll just have to continue going somewhere to get a new copy every time if that's what it comes down to. I can't get my mail forwarded either because it will automatically shoot back my stuff from DHS so they will know my address has changed.

I'm going to continue dealing with him (on occasion), at least until December or unless it gets much worse and I get the rest of my stuff. I literally have NO money (no job), and NO newborn cloth diapers...so I HAVE to at least TRY to get some money out of him for the diapers, if nothing else. I'm lucky to have a roof over my head and food stamps so I can eat. When I say I have no money, I mean I have absolutely no money. And I can't count on anyone to help me out. I'm not counting on ex to help out, but I have to TRY. If nothing happens by December (when he said he would have money - which is rather ridiculous because he doesn't pay rent, so he should be able to give me the CD money like....now...if he weren't blowing it on useless things, primarily alcohol) then I will cut ties, period. But I have to try for a bit longer. I cannot stress just how tight things are right now, and how lucky I am to have shelter and food. I HAVE to try to get something from him. I absolutely have to. I want to completely disappear, and am strongly leaning towards doing so when it gets closer to this baby's birth (baby will be here sometime in mid or late February), probably in January...but I can't just not try. I have clothes left over from DS, I don't care if it ends up being a girl and she has to wear boy clothes. I don't care if s/he only has minimal basics. All I NEED for the baby is clothes, mama milk and cloth diapers. But the diapers are what I don't have. And until I get them (family, friend, ex, whatever) I can't not try.
post #11 of 36
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Originally Posted by thyra View Post
Then, cut him out of your life. Don't call him, don't talk to him, don't answer his calls. Just cut him out.
I can almost completely guarantee you that if I do that (and it's highly probable that I will) that he won't call me. All communications have been initiated by me (and it's all in regards to my needing my things from his place, and things for the baby - I do not call him to talk about anything else, I don't even offer information on how baby's growing and stuff because he doesn't ask). Whenever he finds out that I've had the baby, he may or may not try to get a hold of me...but I can say, with 99% certainty, that if he didn't hear from me for the next 3 months that he would NOT call me or try to contact me.
post #12 of 36
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I can almost completely guarantee you that if I do that (and it's highly probable that I will) that he won't call me. All communications have been initiated by me (and it's all in regards to my needing my things from his place, and things for the baby - I do not call him to talk about anything else, I don't even offer information on how baby's growing and stuff because he doesn't ask). Whenever he finds out that I've had the baby, he may or may not try to get a hold of me...but I can say, with 99% certainty, that if he didn't hear from me for the next 3 months that he would NOT call me or try to contact me.
That's the POINT. You need to become self sufficient. I know how difficult it is to get on your feet, but you need to find a job, and start making some money for yourself. You can't count on this man to help you - he's demonstrating that he doesn't want to - so he won't.
post #13 of 36
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The problem is I've had no luck in finding a job so far. I'm looking literally every single day. I've had two interviews. So far, nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's so incredibly frustrating. Infuriating, really. Because when you interview they never ask or wonder who NEEDS it more. I want to just tell them all that I'll do anything/everything and work my behind off better than a lot of other people simply because I need it so bad.
post #14 of 36
Sweetie, you are technically homeless. Shelters suck... many are absolutely awful places. But they will get you help. They will help you find a job. They will help you with insurance. They will help with food and a place to stay and clothes and other stuff you need for the baby and yourself. Honestly! Get away from this man. You can do this!
post #15 of 36
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The problem is I've had no luck in finding a job so far. I'm looking literally every single day. I've had two interviews. So far, nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's so incredibly frustrating. Infuriating, really. Because when you interview they never ask or wonder who NEEDS it more. I want to just tell them all that I'll do anything/everything and work my behind off better than a lot of other people simply because I need it so bad.
If you are already involved with DHS- why not consider TANF? It seems to me that you are in such a precarious position that something has to change. You may lose all of your benefits as you are not keeping them up to date, so make the changes, and hope that you can get some financial help.
post #16 of 36
Wait....if you don't claim him (so he doesn't get "his part of the food stamps") you might not get less in FS. Mainly because you don't have to claim his income. You know?
post #17 of 36
I don't think it's a good idea to play with DHS. I also don't understand your rational. You have no income and you qualify for TANF so...
post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by smeep View Post

I can't change the address to my Medicaid because it goes through DHS along with my food stamps, so that would change, and that would mean I will have to explain that I'm not living there technically and he's not getting his part of the food stamps (his choice) and that would mean reduced food stamps. Which would be fine, except that it's literally my rent where I'm staying. It's my financial contribution to keep a roof over my head. So, at worst, I'll just have to continue going somewhere to get a new copy every time if that's what it comes down to. I can't get my mail forwarded either because it will automatically shoot back my stuff from DHS so they will know my address has changed.
Lying to DHS is FRAUD. Do you know that if you're caught you could go to PRISON and LOSE YOUR BABY?? Seriously - you're playing with fire here. Go to the office, explain the circumstances, apply for MORE aid, TANF, food stamps, medicaid, etc. But do NOT play this game b/c you could lose what you DO have - your baby and your freedom.
post #19 of 36
Check out this website, Smeep.

https://www.oag.state.tx.us/cs/resources.shtml

Get all the help you can. It is not taking advantage when you actually need the help. It is not below you to take that help. Please please please. It's in your and your children's best interest.
post #20 of 36
In CA there are special rules for FS for women who are fleeing domestic violence, please keep that in mind. Also, you can check out WIC which is a whole lot of food and much easier to qualify for.

Do consider that if you move somewhere else now, have your baby and don't list him on you birth certificate you have a much better chance to not having this man in your life, and that of your child. By accepting money you might be giving him the rights as a father, if he never contributes or see's the child it gives you the option to have his rights terminated due to abandonment. Think about it.

Also, the rent issue, consider going to a shelter for women leaving abuse situations. The help you could get there might include help with a job, food stamp applications, stuff for the baby.
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