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post #21 of 37
Yeah... those zombie babies are outrageously disturbing!
post #22 of 37
"Outrageously disturbing" is synonymous with "totally awesome!"
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
"Outrageously disturbing" is synonymous with "totally awesome!"
If I weren't currently mothering a baby and didn't have a close friend who recently lost a baby, it wouldn't be so disturbing... incredibly tasteless, yes.

They should have some warning on the door so people know what to expect when they go in those stores. The one by us has the baby zombies right next to the baby/toddler costumes... COME ON! Put them in the back by the adult gore at least!
post #24 of 37
The spirit stores near us put a warning on the door and the kids costumes are near the front so you don't have to see all the yucky stuff really unless you go farther in.
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
"Outrageously disturbing" is synonymous with "totally awesome!"
To be honest, I don't find this comment terribly respectful of the many people who are posting here, particularly since you've already stated your opinion. You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but why do you need to say it again? Most of us are talking about how this affects young children, not whether grown men find it "totally awesome!"
post #26 of 37
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To be honest, I don't find this comment terribly respectful of the many people who are posting here, particularly since you've already stated your opinion. You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but why do you need to say it again? Most of us are talking about how this affects young children, not whether grown men find it "totally awesome!"
More than one parents on here has mentioned that their young children were fascinated by/loved such displays. Please don't tell my what my child will be frightened by based on what your children don't like.
post #27 of 37
I also dislike the way the gore and creepiness has been amped up in the last few years or so. I don't mind the spooky stuff, but I'm finding the decorations and stuff are getting just a little too disturbing.

We also went into one of those stores. My kids really liked it, and ds1 was in his element (he's much older). However, the zombie babies are way beyond my comfort zone. I think they'd have always bothered me, but having had a term stillborn son, they're...very upsetting. When I saw that particular display, it was like being punched in the gut.
post #28 of 37
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That's nice in theory, but there is PLENTY of research about the ages at which children understand reality v. fiction, and all the explaining in the world isn't going to make a 3 year old understand the difference. Even if she tells you she does, she's just telling you what you want to hear
That really depends on the child.

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The idea that "kids are more media savvy than in previous generations" or that you can teach a toddler that what they see on TV isn't real gets trotted out a lot, but every bit of scientific research done on the subject shows quite the opposite.
I think the "kids are more media savvy" thing is bs, at least for younger kids. However, research also tends to frame results in terms of generalities and averages. A lot is dependent on the individual child. DS1 had a better grasp of real vs. pretend at 3 than ds2 does at 5. I think he may have had a better grasp of it than I do, in many ways. From what I've seen in my family (my kids and my nephews), the mental distinction between real and pretend occurs at varying rates from one child to another.
post #29 of 37
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...having had a term stillborn son, they're...very upsetting. When I saw that particular display, it was like being punched in the gut.
Oh my gosh, Storm Bride, I am so sorry that they make such a disgusting object and that you saw it. That's dreadful. Many ((hugs)).

There is nothing "totally awesome" about dead or un-dead babies. It takes a callous... I would even say psychopathic... person to think up such a product and manufacture it.

Yes, I'm very religious but I'm also very down-to-earth. I don't see heavenly visions or the Blessed Virgin Mary in my toast or anything. But one time I went shopping at a Halloween store and very strongly felt a presence of... evil, I guess. I can't describe it but something otherwordly and not benign was there.

I love Halloween with decorations of friendly ghosts and black cats and goofy jack-o'lanterns. But I'll never go back into one of those gory stores again!
post #30 of 37
I guess we are a family of psychopaths, either that or we are not you and don't have the same response to (imo) obviously unreal figures. And yes I two headed zombie baby is not something that you would run into in real life.

Personally I find a lot of the cutesy Halloween decorations you find now a days to be unnerving because they are obviously trying to make something "cute and cuddly" when it's not supposed to be. Really, skeletons aren't supposed to be cartoonish with a manic smile.
post #31 of 37
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I guess we are a family of psychopaths, either that or we are not you and don't have the same response to (imo) obviously unreal figures. And yes I two headed zombie baby is not something that you would run into in real life.

Personally I find a lot of the cutesy Halloween decorations you find now a days to be unnerving because they are obviously trying to make something "cute and cuddly" when it's not supposed to be. Really, skeletons aren't supposed to be cartoonish with a manic smile.
i guess it depends on what age child your talking about. i don't think there's anything wrong with a skeleton that has a smile when you're talking about a 3 year old. we don't need to have everything be perfectly "true to life". a 3 year old definitely doesn't understand that you wouldn't run into a zombie baby in real life and even if they don't look that real to us as adults they can still be disturbing to small children.
personally, i think the media has ruined halloween and made it more scary because kids who watch tv are already desensitized to scary stuff. a lot of the innocence is gone. when i was a kid, stuff like "friday the 13th" and "halloween" were scary movies, now you have stuff like "saw" that is just straight up gore & violence without much more.
post #32 of 37
I'm with you MusicianDad. It is a Halloween store. I think when you walk through the doors you should be pretty aware of what you will find. It is a place for gory, gross, scary halloween stuff. If you are looking for a costume for kids there are plenty of places that sell costumes without all the gory stuff represented as well. I would have a problem with a box store, like Walmart to have two headed zombie babies and electric chairs mixed in with bumblebees. But a Halloween store is completly for that kind of stuff.

And it is silly to debate when kids should be allowed to see that kind of stuff because as with EVERYTHING it depends on the kid.
post #33 of 37
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I'm with you MusicianDad. It is a Halloween store. I think when you walk through the doors you should be pretty aware of what you will find. It is a place for gory, gross, scary halloween stuff. If you are looking for a costume for kids there are plenty of places that sell costumes without all the gory stuff represented as well. I would have a problem with a box store, like Walmart to have two headed zombie babies and electric chairs mixed in with bumblebees. But a Halloween store is completly for that kind of stuff.
I had no idea zombie babies even existed. While i think some of the other gross stuff is making Halloween a lot less fun that it used to be, it's the zombie babies that really made me want to throw up (and, fwiw, one of the staff members said he hates them, too - and he works there just because he really likes Halloween). That store had a lot of really, really cool stuff, and a lot of stuff that just isn't my style (and an awful lot of it just totally lacks imagination, imo). But, it's the zombie babies that really turned me off.

DS1 and I were back in there last night, as he needed to pick up a replacement for a piece of his costume that went missing (ds1 is wearing his costume for four separate things this year). The zombie babies were talking. It was really, really unpleasant.

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And it is silly to debate when kids should be allowed to see that kind of stuff because as with EVERYTHING it depends on the kid.
I have to agree completely with this. Just with my own kids, I've seen a huge range in what they enjoy, can handle, etc.
post #34 of 37
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i also agree that it completely depends on your child whether or not they are bothered by the stuff. i just worry that exposure to some things too young can affect children in the long run even if they don't seem bothered by it at the time.
post #35 of 37
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i guess it depends on what age child your talking about. i don't think there's anything wrong with a skeleton that has a smile when you're talking about a 3 year old. we don't need to have everything be perfectly "true to life". a 3 year old definitely doesn't understand that you wouldn't run into a zombie baby in real life and even if they don't look that real to us as adults they can still be disturbing to small children.
personally, i think the media has ruined halloween and made it more scary because kids who watch tv are already desensitized to scary stuff. a lot of the innocence is gone. when i was a kid, stuff like "friday the 13th" and "halloween" were scary movies, now you have stuff like "saw" that is just straight up gore & violence without much more.
Honestly, I think Halloween has gotten less scary. It used to be there were very few places with "cutesy" decorations and now you find them in most department stores. You have to go to specialty stores to get anything remotely scary. Which, like jnet said, is where you pretty much have to understand that these stores are not designed for the same type of Halloween as many, many parents today seem to want.
post #36 of 37
I'm with ya on all counts, MusicianDad.

But, I work in a pro haunted attraction. So, the more gore and the more offensive, the better.

And my kids are in love with the industry as well, at 6 and 3. They understand real from pretend fairly well, considering mommy has been going to and coming home from work in all manner of gore (covered in blood, missing eyes, guts falling out, fake impalements, you name it) for the past 5 years. And since my 70 or so co-workers all do the same, when they come to pick me up from work all the "scaries" come over and play with them.

We just took them tonite to a smaller yard haunt run by a friend of ours, where we'll be guest scaring tomorrow, and they insisted on going through 3 times in a row.


Either way, what some people find awesome is what others find absolutely disgusting. But, just because you (general you) don't like it shouldn't limit my ability to like and buy it. And it also shouldn't decide whether or not it will traumatize my children.
post #37 of 37
DS (5) has always loved the creepy Halloween displays- we usually go to the Halloween store just to browse- he's gotta push every button to see what happens. It hasn't scared him yet.
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