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post #61 of 74
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
I think it would be interesting if this were set up as a poll and the answers were sorted by the age of the posters children.

I'm guessing that the older our children, the more likely we are to NOT make a second costume. My theory is that when our kids are younger, we see their request and needs more in the same vein, but as our kids get older, it keeps becoming more and more obvious that there is little to no correlation between what they want and what they need, and they sometimes (often?) lack gratitude for what we do for them.

I don't think there is a right and wrong answer, I just think how we look at it changes as kids get older.
It seemed a lot of people who had younger kids answered "no way" as if they think a 7 yo is mature and "old enough" because they are comparing them to 3 and 4 yos and think they ought to be so much more mature and experienced. People whose "babies" are that age or older (like me) seem more willing to oblige within time and financial constraints possibly because they don't view them as being quite so close to fully mature. But older kids are more capable of doing things with less help so encouraging them to make their own costume is perfectly reasonable. My ds is always grateful!
post #62 of 74
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Originally Posted by 4evermom View Post
It seemed a lot of people who had younger kids answered "no way" as if they think a 7 yo is mature and "old enough" because they are comparing them to 3 and 4 yos and think they ought to be so much more mature and experienced. People whose "babies" are that age or older (like me) seem more willing to oblige within time and financial constraints possibly because they don't view them as being quite so close to fully mature. But older kids are more capable of doing things with less help so encouraging them to make their own costume is perfectly reasonable. My ds is always grateful!
I don't know. I was one who answered that I wouldn't be willing to make another costume, and my dd is 6. In fact several weeks ago we were out shopping and she saw a witch's costume and asked me to buy it for her. I told her that she needed to think really really hard about it, because once I bought it I wouldn't be able to afford anything else if she changed her mind later. She did decide to be a witch and so I bought her the costume. If she had decided that she wasn't so keen on the witch after all I would have told her "sorry, but that's what you chose. If you can piece together a different costume with what we already have then go for it. Otherwise witch it is, and you can be a *whatever* next year".

I don't know if it's because my dd is "older" that I answered that way, because we're on a super tight budget, or just more to do with my personal parenting style (or a combo of all 3 factors?). That said, I do think I would have been more willing to go along with whims and changes when she was a toddler/preschooler than I am now - now that she has a better understanding of the consequences of her choices.
post #63 of 74
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It seemed a lot of people who had younger kids answered "no way" as if they think a 7 yo is mature and "old enough" because they are comparing them to 3 and 4 yos and think they ought to be so much more mature and experienced. People whose "babies" are that age or older (like me) seem more willing to oblige within time and financial constraints possibly because they don't view them as being quite so close to fully mature. But older kids are more capable of doing things with less help so encouraging them to make their own costume is perfectly reasonable. My ds is always grateful!
I answered no, and my kid is the same age as the OP's, is on the spectrum like the OP's kid, AND my kid is related to the OP's kid. :
post #64 of 74
No way would my kid be getting a second costume!
post #65 of 74
Having actually seen the Dove costume now, I'm voting for helping him throw something together. The Dove costume is awesome, but really more suited to wearing once for a brief time than walking around. I'm kind of surprised he made it through the zoo trip with it, but then I have a tendency towards claustrophobia and hate not being able to fully use my arms.
post #66 of 74
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I don't know. I was one who answered that I wouldn't be willing to make another costume, and my dd is 6.
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I answered no, and my kid is the same age as the OP's, is on the spectrum like the OP's kid, AND my kid is related to the OP's kid. :
Ah, but you both have younger kids than your 6/7 yo so you still fit what I was saying. When you have younger kids, 6 and 7 yos seem old because you are comparing them. When the 7 yo is your baby, you might take how he is at face value because you aren't always seeing him next to someone so much younger. You know how it is when you have a baby? The toddler suddenly seems HUGE and many moms have trouble being as patient with the toddler because their expectations have also suddenly changed since they are comparing the toddler to a helpless newborn. And to the toddler, he is just one day older than he was yesterday. So why is everyone being short with him because a baby was born yesterday or he just had a birthday and is magically a whole year older instead of just one day? When you don't have a newborn, that toddler is still pretty much a baby to his mom.

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The Dove costume is awesome, but really more suited to wearing once for a brief time than walking around. I'm kind of surprised he made it through the zoo trip with it.
post #67 of 74
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Ah, but you both have younger kids than your 6/7 yo so you still fit what I was saying. When you have younger kids, 6 and 7 yos seem old because you are comparing them. When the 7 yo is your baby, you might take how he is at face value because you aren't always seeing him next to someone so much younger. You know how it is when you have a baby? The toddler suddenly seems HUGE and many moms have trouble being as patient with the toddler because their expectations have also suddenly changed since they are comparing the toddler to a helpless newborn. And to the toddler, he is just one day older than he was yesterday. So why is everyone being short with him because a baby was born yesterday or he just had a birthday and is magically a whole year older instead of just one day? When you don't have a newborn, that toddler is still pretty much a baby to his mom.



But even my 3 year old knows she gets one costume and if she changes her mind after the costume is made/bought, we put it on the idea list for next year (or she can choose something from the dress-up trunk). A 7 year old is perfectly capable of understanding/being taught that mama's time is valuable as well. I mean, I could take what you said and say that people who don't have younger kids are not aware of exactly how mature a 7 year old actually is and how much more refined the reasoning skills are than a toddlers, and thus, they can be treated like the grade schooler they are. Having younger children does not make me any less aware of a 7 year old's capabilities...I've been around 7 year olds a lot. I've worked with them a lot outside of my own children. I know typical and special needs 7 year olds. I know that at some point, you do have to teach them to make a decision, value the time of those who are doing something for you, appreciate what you have, etc. I know that you can't coddle them and put the same expectations on them that you'd have of a 3 or 4 year old or even of a kindergartener.

YES, they need help with developing those skills, but it's perfectly age appropriate to help them understand, by having them take some part in creating the new costume, that there is time and effort and money involved in costume making and that those are finite resources. Would I ask my 3 year old to help make a new costume if she wanted to change her mind? (Well, being Montessori minded, yes, I would. But that's beside the point. I wouldn't *expect* her to be able to understand that at her developmental age). BUT, I would fully expect a 7 year old to be able to sacrifice some time, some money (even a dollar or two), and some effort into helping create the 2nd costume in order to begin to understand that costumes (and toys and food and natural resources, etc.) don't come out of thin air...that our choices have consequences...that the things we consume have availablility limits, etc.

It's not just a costume. The lesson that is learned can be generalized--what if the same 7 year old asked for a DSI for Christmas. Got it, played with it, and then decided that nope, what he really wants is an electric scooter. Does mom have the responsibility to get him a 2nd gift because he changed his mind? Nope. At 7, he can start saving up to contribute to the other item.

That being said, I know Steph, and I'm going to wager a bet that Owen has the mummy costume now. : I don't know that for certain, but I have a hunch. :
post #68 of 74
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the thoughts everyone!!

To the person who was speaking of how to some a 7 year old seems so grown up and to some they are still a baby.... very interesting! I still view my ds as a baby LOL!

To those who might be wondering..... ds does not have a mummy costume. Nor will he be wearing the chocolate costume. Over the weekend ds sat down with me and explained that he really liked the chocolate costume but when he walks it hits his knees and he can't walk very much with it on. That's why he wanted a different costume. I can understand that We decided that we would look into another costume, but there were no promises Later we were at Target and he was looking at the costumes and decided he wanted to be a knight. We explained this was the last costume, no more chances. He understands and insists he wants to be a knight. Soooo.... he's a knight
post #69 of 74
Aw, so I only half-won the bet.

Take a picture for me!
post #70 of 74
So wrap him in toilet paper and let him do his rounds. It's cheap and easy and it will last exactly as long as it takes him to get around the block.
post #71 of 74
aaaaaaaaaaah soooo typical.

mine was hell bent on belly dancer.

well she 'got' her costume.



a vampire!!! go figure!!!

not until we make or buy will i ever really know what she wants to be.
post #72 of 74
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Originally Posted by meemee View Post
aaaaaaaaaaah soooo typical.

mine was hell bent on belly dancer.

well she 'got' her costume.



a vampire!!! go figure!!!

not until we make or buy will i ever really know what she wants to be.
have you considered shutting the door on your sewing area, running an empty needle off and on for an hour or so while you read a book, and then coming out and asking "are you sure you want to be an X?" :
post #73 of 74
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
have you considered shutting the door on your sewing area, running an empty needle off and on for an hour or so while you read a book, and then coming out and asking "are you sure you want to be an X?" :
Lol!
post #74 of 74
When DD did this she was 4, she choose to be a bubble bath. Like you, I made it and it was very cute, but it was "only for Trunk or Treating at school." She refused to wear it again and had two more Halloween events. I let her choose something out of her dress-up clothes, but I wouldn't make/buy something else. She ended up wearing a princess dress to the Halloween event and black clothes with butterfly wings trick or treating.

I think given your son's explanation of it being hard to walk, it reasonable and I probably would have done the same thing for my now nearly 7 year old DD (whom I still think of as little!).
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