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Keeping heating bill down with old windows

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
We're renting a place with old windows. It's double paned glass, but the seals are shot (condensation between) and it's bad enough that you feel a cool breeze from the windows. Our heating bill is out of this world. Turning heat way down is not an option.

I used that plastic shrink wrap stuff in college--that worked pretty well. But I would be putting it over wood moulding, which IME, kinda ruins it when you pull it off. So unless there is another way to use it, that's out.

My other idea is heavy curtains. We have nothing up right now, so we'd have to install and buy rods and curtains. I'd possibly make them if it'd save money. Anybody know how much this might actually help?

Any other ideas?
post #2 of 9
Well...is the moulding only on the outside of the windows? Because the plastic is also mountable on the inside of the frame. You could use painter's tape instead of the double stick stuff it comes with if you're worried too.

The curtains are also a good idea, and will totally work to keep drafts out. Heavy canvas is what I usually look for. Tapestry if you are into a medieval thang .
post #3 of 9
it will help a lot.

we live in NZ, where houses are uninsulated and we have single pane glass from the early 1900s. there also isn't any central heat. the thermal curtains are a necessity.

our winters are not that cold (about 40-45 degrees F, sometimes dipping toward freezing at night on occasion, btu that's rare) but they are damp. damp is the biggest issue, because the cold stays with you.

here is what we did:

1. always dress in layers: wool or silk under layer, t-shirt/jeans layer (or flannel PJs), and then sweater/fleece layer. this is indoors, mind you. sometimes, fingerless gloves, definitely socks. if you get warm, then you can always take off a layer.

2. curtains, good thermal insulating curtains, are a necessity. if i were to have my own made, i would likely have them made out of good old heavy wool. and, seriously think--like wool felt or kilt fabric sorts of wool. no messing around, straight up, wool. it's the bomb, wool. i love it. wool wool wool wool wool!

3. bedding-- our bedding makes a HUGE difference. we have a wool fleece mattress cover. cushy, cool when it's hot outside, hot when it's cold outside. i don't know how it does it. we then have cotton sheets for breath-ability. then, "winter weight" bedding (yu can purchase winter weight and summer weight blankets here). then two wool blankets that go on top of that.

4. 'hotties'--the ubiquitous hot water bottle. everywhere you go, people have them here. they love them. people knit special sweaters for them (out of wool) and everything. seriously. fill them with boiling water, pop them into your bed before you get in, pull them out before you get into bed, and voila, nice toasty bed to get into. a lot of people also spend a lot of time cuddled up with them.

5. lots of throw blankets around--preferably wool--so that where ever you are around the house, you can have a warm blanket to get under.

6. heat where you are-- because we don't usually have central air/heat here, a lot of people either have wood burning stoves or heat pumps. if you aren't lucky enough to have those (and msot people aren't) then you rely on space heaters. there are many varieties available, but the best both heat and dehumidify, because dry is necessary. we are lucky enough to have a heat pump, which we put on a timer to heat jsut before we would rise, and then in the evenings after dinner. this helped keep our bedding and clothes dry, so we were less cold.

an efficient space heater can cut costs, and if you get one that is mobile, you're not heating rooms that you are not in. we did not heat overnight, as the wool and our PJs kept us warm. it worked out really well.

sometimes, if it was very cold at night, we'd refill the hotties and toss them back into bed with us, but otherwise we did quite well.

but, since you're mostly thinking about curtains--heavy wool curtains, perhaps even with a thermal insulation--will help a LOT.
post #4 of 9
zoebird, great post! It actually made me fantasize about living in a cozy (cold!) home in New Zealand and snuggling on a fleece matrress with a hot water bottle.....you gotta love the cold because it makes feeling warm feel soooo good
post #5 of 9
I grew up with hotties and they are good, especially with a knitted cover (you can also upcycle a felted sweater). Though once I did get a nasty burn on my leg because it sat on my leg all night in the same spot! It wasn't even that hot. However I was very cold. At the time I was living in Adelaide, Australia where it goes down to about freezing in the winter. My place was totally un heated, uninsulated (quite usual). My bedroom was in a fibre cement extension so that walls were very thin. Freezing. My breath made fog inside (inside temp same as outside). Flannelette pajamas and a hottie were a must!

You can also put a wool blanket under the bottom sheet in lieu of a nice wool pad.
post #6 of 9
Window weatherstripping can work wonders for drafts. it is DIY and only a few dollars per window. This is where to start.

JoAnne Fabrics has the materials to make thermal blinds. use your coupons and it could be inexpensive. look in the utility fabric department, near the pul.

Finally, the advanced energy panel (like a storm window but tape free and 2 panes of plastic) would probably help. At $70 per window, it is more suited for owners than renters. http://www.vesenergystore.com/Window...715_69517.aspx
post #7 of 9
I forgot to say that you can get caulking which is designed to be pulled off every year. We use that because it isn't as ugly as the plastic stuff.

Also, caulk around the outside of your moulding/architrave, against the wall. We had a lot of draughts there. Just make sure you use the paintable stuff. Ask me why I know this :eyeroll
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thank you for all the ideas! I will have to figure out what is most effective/economical. I knew a few someones would have a suggestion for me
post #9 of 9
I am about in the same situation as you OP. Our windows are soooo bad. I filled all the cracks with the caulk stuff. Then I covered them with the plastic shrink wrap stuff. Then I made insulated drapes. Which I was originally freaked out about because of the cost. Our living room/dining room (one big odd room) has 7 fulll length windows in it! What I ended up doing was going to Dollar General and purchasing polyester blankets in the twin/full size for $5 each for each window. Then I made a casing at the top for a curtain rod and hemmed the bottom. Then I went to JoAnns and bought ticking fabric (which I like and it is heavy weight and by far the most economical since I needed 45 yards of it!). I used the 50% off coupon and it was still very expensive. And you know what? It looks nice. I used double curtain rods and everything is hung up and while it blocks a lot of light- it still lets some in and keeps out all the drafts.

I also bought the same $5 blankets to line all of our upstairs curtains that were just regular cotton fabric. Made a huge difference.

and I want to add- I went to an army surplus store and bought second hand wool blankets for about $20 each to make my own cushy matress toppers- Holy smokes- those are amazing! And sooooo much cheaper than buying specialty matress pads of wool!
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