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Please Help (LONG) Toddler Throwing Up at Night and Eczema

post #1 of 12
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DS has eczema and we had a scratch test done that showed he was allergic to eggs. We had suspected that for some time so we had already eliminated them from both of our diets. For the past three weeks both of us have been dairy, wheat, soy, peanut, tree nut, shellfish, fish, egg, corn, beef, tomato, potato, citrus, chocolate, sesame seed, coconut and caffine free. About a week ago I also cut out any meat except turkey. I hae also been giving him a probiotic (Udos for Babies and Toddlers).

We did wet wraps for a week and half at the start of the diet and have switched to using just plain shea butter on his skin. When we give him a bath we use plain water (we were doing nightly baths at the start of the ED which he enjoyed, but for the past two weeks he screams when we try to give him a bath so it is down to about 2x per week) and then put on the shea butter.

Two nights ago he threw up twice in his sleep. That day he had pancakes (using Namaste mix, flaxseed, canolia oil, rice milk, water), pure maple syrup, turkey bacon, apple juice, turkey lunchmeat (turkey, water, honey all preservate free), Diaya cheese, avaocado, an Enjoy Life cookie, applesauce, grapes, carrots, a bite of a pear, breastmilk (I ate the same things he did plus, guacamole (avocado, onion, peppers, salt, pepper), Taro chips, wine, gin, mint, simple syrup). He seemed to feel fine after throwing up and acted 100% fine all day yesterday. Last night he threw up in the middle of the night again - it was less throw up this time and again he acted fine, in fact he wanted to play! (Yesterdays diet EcoPlant hot cereal, apple juice, ground turkey with cajan spices, onion, garlic, diaya cheese, rice crackers, applesauce, two Enjoy Life cookies, one bite of pea and squash soup, chickpeas (with olive oil, salt, pepper, smoked paprika), grapes, breastmilk (I ate the same thing he did plus a glass of wine).

This morning my DH said his eczema is looking bad again (it was only this past Friday that it started to even look remotely like it might be getting better) and DS is pointing to it say oww! I did use some California Baby Super Sensitive bath wash last night because the plain water did not get rid of the throw up smell in his hair the night before.

I believe our ND is out of town right now and I just don't know what to do. Again DS acts like he feels fine after throwing up and there has been no fever. His BM yesterday was loose, but not watery. Please give advice or suggestions if you can! The only things I can think of is gluten, because we have not eliminated it completley from the diet (although it is mostly gone due to being on such a restricted diet) or environmental.
post #2 of 12
Allergies can be so tricky. It took us a lot of trial and error to figure out my DS's allergies when he was younger (luckily he outgrew).

A few quick thoughts from reading your post..are you making the turkey yourself? Deli turkey can be cross-contaminated or contain other ingredients, and even whole turkies can be injected with broth that contains other ingredients.

Shea is considered a nut, so you may want to try a different mositurizer. Maybe cocoa butter if you can find one that's not cross-contaminated. We actually resorted to a petrolium-based moisturizer when DS's eczema was really bad, and it helped. You could also make your own lotion in the blender with safe oils & other ingredients (lots of recipes online).

Is the probiotic dairy-free? Some are cultured on dairy & contain traces, some are cross-contaminated.

Do you have a chlorine filter for your bath? Chlorine in water can be very irritating.

You may want to go to an even more bare-bones elimination diet for several weeks to clear all traces of possible allergens from his/your diet, and then keep a food diary & reaction diary and add one thing back at a time at a very slow pace.

Hope you can figure it out.
post #3 of 12
Is the throw-up mucousy?

Have you looked at possible detergent/soaps that might be irritating him?
post #4 of 12
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Is the throw-up mucousy?

Have you looked at possible detergent/soaps that might be irritating him?
It was not mucousy, but it was very foul smelling.

As far as soaps go we use very little soap during baths (CA Super Sensitive when we do) and his laundry detergent is a homemade version that I buy from a WAHM. He has never had an eczema rash in his diaper area and we use it on his diapers as well, so it could be the detergent, but I just feel like if it was the detergent shouldn't his diaper area have eczema?
post #5 of 12
Have you looked into salicylic acid? A lot of what you are feeding him is high in it. It causes terrible skin issues for dd4 to the point of skin melting off when she was pooping and her scratching her skin till she bleeds. See here for more info... http://salicylatesensitivity.com/about/food-guide/ - We have to keep her levels very low to keep her from breaking out, some of the other mom's here should have some good info on supplements to help start building up tolerance if that is what you determine it is.

Avocado in my breastmilk made her throw up. Her blood test came back negative for allergy but she is positive for a latex allergy and it is a cross-reactive so I don't plan to introduce any time soon. Also it is high in sals.
post #6 of 12
My boys both have eczema. It took a lot of trial and error to find stuff that is the least irritating to them (and a lot of money too since many of the best stuff was problematic for them). In the end what works for us has been taken off the market!!! We were using Huggies Ultrasensitive baby wash. Avoid anything with perfumes or dyes in the them, so unscented is best. Everything that says for eczema or dry skin or for sensitive skin still causes my boys to break out.
Use water only whenever possible especially until you get the skin under control.
We use Tide Free laundry detergent and do a second rinse. In the dryer absolutely NO fabric softener or bounce sheets as they are full of chemicals and perfumes.
For moisterizer we use vaseline after baths and between baths I use Cetaphil Cream (comes in a tub). This one was recommended to us by a fellow mom and we love it. It is thick so doesn't easily rub off.
For my kids it is environmental stuff that sets off their eczema, though with your son's vomiting it sounds like he has food allergies to deal with as well. Good luck figuring those out.
post #7 of 12
I'm pretty sure that Daiya cheese has corn in it, and you said you were corn free. Also, are you sure that gin is safe? I know it's made from junipers but what else? It's difficult to find one ingredients of alcohol.

Are you keeping a very detailed food journal, and has he/you had all that before and it not been a problem, or is one of those foods new (for either of you)?
post #8 of 12
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I'm pretty sure that Daiya cheese has corn in it, and you said you were corn free. Also, are you sure that gin is safe? I know it's made from junipers but what else? It's difficult to find one ingredients of alcohol.

Are you keeping a very detailed food journal, and has he/you had all that before and it not been a problem, or is one of those foods new (for either of you)?
I don't see corn listed, but I guess it could be under vegetable glycerin? (Sorry I am new to this food allergy stuff and it has been confusing and depressing to me.) The gin was a one time thing, but I think I will stay away from it and stick to wine for now.

We have not been keeping a food journal just trying to stay very strict on the elmination diet. The foods that are new to us are the Daiya cheese (use both use to eat real cheese), Taro chips, and turkey for him (I hate turkey so we never have it).
post #9 of 12
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Have you looked into salicylic acid? A lot of what you are feeding him is high in it. It causes terrible skin issues for dd4 to the point of skin melting off when she was pooping and her scratching her skin till she bleeds. See here for more info... http://salicylatesensitivity.com/about/food-guide/ - We have to keep her levels very low to keep her from breaking out, some of the other mom's here should have some good info on supplements to help start building up tolerance if that is what you determine it is.

Avocado in my breastmilk made her throw up. Her blood test came back negative for allergy but she is positive for a latex allergy and it is a cross-reactive so I don't plan to introduce any time soon. Also it is high in sals.
Thank you for the link, I may have to cross reference that with what we can eat when I get home. One of my major concerns is getting enough fat into the diet - without olive oil and avocado I am at a loss. Any suggestions?
post #10 of 12
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One of my major concerns is getting enough fat into the diet - without olive oil and avocado I am at a loss. Any suggestions?
Yeah, that is a hard one. We do a lot of dairy, but that seems to be out for you. What about meats and poultry? Looks like turkey is okay, do you get with skin and bones on? I roast chicken and eat the skin and fatty layer right off of it and dd(22months) likes it too.
post #11 of 12
citric acid and xanthan gum are both corn sourced. I already called the company since we can't do corn, so I know that we can't do it. I'd say take the new foods out and when you do add foods, make sure they're whole foods, not a whole lot of ingredients, so you can track it more easily.

When we roast a turkey, we take all the drippings (fat) and make it into gravy. Then we have the gravy with the turkey and on rice. Then make the turkey into bone broth (24-36 hour simmer) to get all the minerals out of the bones. That's a nice nutrient dense food for you.

Did he react to olive oil? I saw you were still using canola oil, so you can still fry things in that (veggie stir fry, etc.)
post #12 of 12
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I don't see corn listed, but I guess it could be under vegetable glycerin? (Sorry I am new to this food allergy stuff and it has been confusing and depressing to me.) The gin was a one time thing, but I think I will stay away from it and stick to wine for now.
I didn't catch that you are drinking wine...wine is sometimes clarified with eggs (and/or other potential allergens), so you may want to call manufacturers to ensure that the brand you are drinking is safe for your DS.
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