Indianapolis Schools kick out 1,622 kids without vaccines - Page 2

[caned & able]

Originally Posted by CherryBomb

No. The recommendation, generally speaking, would be that those living in the household not receive smallpox vaccination or OPV, because those carry a risk of transmission to the immuno-compromised person. Transmission risk from most other vaccinations is so small that it is NOT recommended that household members with an immuno-compromised family member skip those vaccinations.

Sorry, you are wrong.

Ask an oncologist. Unfortunately, when one is living through this sadness, one does not think to follow up on the incongruencies of the medical logic until later.

Only someone who has lived through this will know what I was told in a convo.

[Arduinna]

Ya, actually my hematologist/oncologist suggested I stay away from anyone recently vaxed.

As a person that was immune compromised, I'm personally tired of people using people like me as a way to further their vax agenda.

[Multimomma]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

Ya, actually my hematologist/oncologist suggested I stay away from anyone recently vaxed.

As a person that was immune compromised, I'm personally tired of people using people like me as a way to further their vax agenda.

I guess it depends on the oncologist then, because we've had two family friends with childhood leukemia, and during chemo, it was highly recommended that we take extreme precautions since our family was not vaccinated. With no immune system, VPD could have killed them quickly.

[Otto]

When did Indianapolis public schools turn into pediatric oncology wards?

[Multimomma]

Kids undergoing chemo still attend school

From my reading, the school was saying they needed proof of vax or exemption.

[Multimomma]

Here we go...

The MSD of Pike Township will handle students who are not immunized on a case-by-case basis.

So it's not a matter of people not being allowed to exempt, it's parents not turning in updated info or exemption papers.

[NaturalBirthGoddes]

Originally Posted by Multimomma

I guess it depends on the oncologist then, because we've had two family friends with childhood leukemia, and during chemo, it was highly recommended that we take extreme precautions since our family was not vaccinated. With no immune system, VPD could have killed them quickly.

And what about the vaxes that shed? This is why my MIL was told to avoid recently vaxed people.

[happysmileylady]

Originally Posted by Multimomma

Here we go...

So it's not a matter of people not being allowed to exempt, it's parents not turning in updated info or exemption papers.

Pike township is a different district than IPS, the district mentioned in the OP.

The district we are in actually took their vax records straight from the department of health records for our county.

[Multimomma]

Originally Posted by NaturalBirthGoddes

And what about the vaxes that shed? This is why my MIL was told to avoid recently vaxed people.

Live virus may shed, which means:

MMR contain living but weakened viruses and may cause a real case of the disease.

Influenza, only the nasal spray contains live viruses to cause a mild infection to create an immunity to the viruses.

Rotavirus, the oral vaccines contain whole live rotavirus germs that are designed to create a low-grade rotavirus infection in the body, thereby creating an immunity.

Varicella/chickenpox, contains living but weakened virus and can cause a mild case of the actual disease.

Other vaccines contain only portions of the germ.

[Arduinna]

Originally Posted by Multimomma

I guess it depends on the oncologist then, because we've had two family friends with childhood leukemia, and during chemo, it was highly recommended that we take extreme precautions since our family was not vaccinated. With no immune system, VPD could have killed them quickly.

It has nothing to do with VPD, but any illness.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by Multimomma

I guess it depends on the oncologist then, because we've had two family friends with childhood leukemia, and during chemo, it was highly recommended that we take extreme precautions since our family was not vaccinated. With no immune system, VPD could have killed them quickly.

I don't think the immune system cards virus and bacteria for status as a VAD, so they would be at risk from numerous illnesses, not just VADs.

[Multimomma]

The key word being 'preventable', I guess.

[Multimomma]

Originally Posted by happysmileylady

Pike township is a different district than IPS, the district mentioned in the OP.

The district we are in actually took their vax records straight from the department of health records for our county.

From what I read, it's administratively overlapping, so that's a perhaps. Either way, same state laws for exemptions exist. Either way, the articles aren't about exemptions not being allowed. The entire news is about the school district not having the vaccine records properly kept (whether exemptions exist or not) It's an interesting twist by the OP to create outrage about exemptions being denied, when I don't read anywhere that it has happened. Every parents interviewed has been stunned because they thought their kids were fully vaccinated.

The rest of the arguments on the thread are like so much herring.

[mysticmomma]

most of the time these kids have parents that don't objection to vaccines and use an exemption. These are parents not using an exemption and not getting their children vaccinated.

[2boyzmama]

Originally Posted by CherryBomb

No. The recommendation, generally speaking, would be that those living in the household not receive smallpox vaccination or OPV, because those carry a risk of transmission to the immuno-compromised person. Transmission risk from most other vaccinations is so small that it is NOT recommended that household members with an immuno-compromised family member skip those vaccinations.

Not quite true. We are a family with a child with a Primary Immune Deficiency (chronically low lymphocytes), Selective IgM Deficiency, and negative antigen-stimulation tests. We frequent Hemotology/Immunology often unfortunately. We are told that no one in the family should receive ANY live vaccine, which includes: Flu Mist, OPV (is that even given in this country anymore?) Rota Virus, MMR, CP, Anthrax (I was military, so this was a concern), Small Pox (again, military), and I think Yellow Fever was one we discussed as well.

Originally Posted by Arduinna

Ya, actually my hematologist/oncologist suggested I stay away from anyone recently vaxed.

As a person that was immune compromised, I'm personally tired of people using people like me as a way to further their vax agenda.

I kind of am too. Thank you, but I can speak up for myself, and often I can speak more intelligently about the whole topic.

I do NOT expect *anyone* to go out of their way to protect MY child, except for common sense/common courtesy like please stay away if you know you are sick, if you smoke, if you were recently vaccinated, etc. But that's all I ask. It is no one's job but my own to worry about my child's health. And I would absolutely NEVER ask someone to put themselves or their children at risk (no matter how small) in order to possibly protect my child. I will live with the burden of keeping my child alive, and I will make the choices about his public exposure. If I choose to send my immune-compromised child to public school where I know a portion of the children aren't vaccinated (and another portion are not immune, even if vaccinated) then that is MY choice and I alone have to live with those consequences.

Originally Posted by caned & able

Sorry, you are wrong.

Ask an oncologist. Unfortunately, when one is living through this sadness, one does not think to follow up on the incongruencies of the medical logic until later.

Only someone who has lived through this will know what I was told in a convo.

Unfortunately, that is true.

[mattemma04]

If you are already vaccinating for all others I doubt you should be able to claim a religious vaccination exemption for the 2 recently required ones.