DSD is turning 7 in about a month and if we didn't get her up before we go to bed (anytime between 10:30 and 12 or 1am) I'm not sure what we'd face. She was day-time trained at, oh I'm not sure, maybe 2 1/2, and actually didn't have daytime accidents until much later. When she does it's usually because she doesn't stop playing in time, and sometimes I think she may not notice she has to go until she *really* has to go because I've taken her to bathrooms or port-a-potties myself and had her undies be damp already. Anyway, she was in pull-ups at night until about age 5 or 5 1/2, and would simply sleep through everything. After finally being dry for a bit she went back to having accidents so we started getting her up. There have been a few instances even after getting her up of her having damp undies in the morning, and once when SO decided she didn't need to be woken up since she'd gone to bed late (I thought we should), she did a real number wetting the bed - she has a plastic sheet under her bottom sheet, but because it happened when she was at the edge of the bed, it soaked the fabric sheet and ran down the plastic one all the way to the box spring and bed frame. It was a really frustrating time for me when she was in pull-ups because they would be soaked in the morning, and occasionally she'd sit on the sofa or something with a still-soaked pull-up leaking. I think that I was of the (probably wrong) opinion that she was choosing to not get up and choosing to sit in a full pull-up, etc. I guess I somehow thought (perhaps due to a lack of experience or knowledge of children, and maybe because my sisters and I never had any accidents and my mom said we were dry through the night early on) that even at 5 she was way too old to not stay dry at night. It was hard for me to agree it is probably physical development and the fact that her father wet the bed til he was about 11, plus she sleeps like the dead just like him. So we're doing better now, but we continue to get her up to avoid accidents.