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post #101 of 160

Awesome, Nanette!

I hope your test goes as well, Liora.:-)

post #102 of 160
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Yes Liora- I hope everything goes well!

 

 

AFM- (Cross posted to Birth Plans thread)

 

I had my 1st appointment with my OB today!!! I was up all. damn. night. worrying about it. Ugh.

 

So with heavy heart, and birth plan in hand DH and I waited in his room. He came in, and before he could get a word in edgewise I told him I had A LOT to go over with him. He said "I've got time" :) Started by stroking his ego- heard lots of good stuff about him, that he was really natural birth friendly....etc...etc. Then I was honest and said I've been dreading meeting with an OB, and it's been stressing me out and keeping me up at night etc...And he was really sympathetic. I told him I wanted to go over my birth plan before we went any further, because I didn't want to get "fired" later on for not doing things his way. HE SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING GUYS!!!!

 

No ABX (even though I had a +GBS urine culture) this is the only thing we kinda "fought" about, but it wasn't really a fight- and eventually he said, "Well there is proof that the ABX antibiotics permanently affect a child's GI fauna so I guess you gotta weigh your risks" and then just put a little disclaimer on the birth plan that he explained the risks of refusal to me :)

 

No delivering in the OR which is usually mandatory (he agreed to put me in the room next to the OR), no epi, no iv, no heplock, no time limits on pushing, no time limits between babies, he does not care one iota about what position baby B is in, as long as A is vertex.

 

He WANTS me to labor at home as long as possible. He'll let them cook as long as I want but will suggest induction at 40 weeks, because that's like going 42 with a singleton apparently- unless there's evidence of PIH/Pre-E/PROM prior to that, but that he really doesn't want them before 38 weeks.

 

And get this: his c-section rate for his laboring patients is..... drumroll please....: 15%!!!! (He said that because he's the chief of obstetrics at the biggest hospital in Orlando, they fly all mothers within a 35 mile radius to him if their hospital can't handle whatever birth emergency is happening, so his actual C-section rate is higher, but that's the rate for his personal patients)

 

He said he's avidly against sections (especially planned ones), and will not perform them unless there's some kind of REAL medical emergency (ruptured umbilical cord, Pre-E, or Baby A is breach and external version doesn't work for examples) He said his goal is a vaginal birth every time. He also said he would handpick my nurse for me!!

He signed my birth plan, and scanned it into the computer and kept a paper copy for my file. I.am.so.relieved.

 

I can't believe he just went with it- and he wasn't patronizing at any point. He and DH got along well too, and he spent at least a half hour with us, even though all he did (besides talk) was do a fundal measurement and check their heartbeats with the doppler.

 

So, yes Virginia, there are OBs out there that will work with natural minded crunchy mamas...I hope everyone that ends up in the hospital in the end has an OB like this to back them up!!

 

Ok- gotta get back to work :) BabyGrey- what's going on lady?? Haven't heard from you in a while!

 

 

post #103 of 160

I'm so happy for you Nanette!

 

I had to postpone my appt. because I've had a horrible cold this week.  Didn't want anyone to think it was a bad test or anything.  I"ll go next wednesday.

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Preggers5, thanks for letting us know how it went.  Good to know that your baby is healthy!  I know that when I went in, I was hoping for twins, because I was afraid that if it was only one baby, there would likely be a bad reason why my uterus was measuring so large.  I'm so glad it appears that everything's fine for you!

I'm 25/26 weeks (we're working with 2 different dates for leeway), and have gained 32lbs.  I feel very, very pregnant.

YW! I was thinking the same thng. If it wasn't twins I was afraid there would be a medical problem. Thankfully, the tech couldn't pinpoint a concern.

 

I had another m/w appointment this week and I am now measuring 6 weeks ahead. My m/w measured 2 different times so she was sure of the measurement being accurate. My uterus has grown 4cm in 3 weeks. We are all stumped at my hugeness!!   lol

 

post #105 of 160

Nanette, that is SOOOO awesome!  What a wonderful relief that must be!

If only all OBs could be like yours!:-)

post #106 of 160
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Liora- did you have your appt today??

 

Just got back from my perinatologist appointment, I posted on the main pregnancy page- he called me a troublemaker (he's really cool, and said it in jest), and said he's been getting calls from my OB and the neonatologists at the hospital lol- he's arranged for them to accommodate me on every front, but couldn't get the neonatologists to budge on the ABX stuff. So he's arranged a meeting for all of us. Sticking to my guns though, unless I have a secondary risk factor they're not injecting me and by extension my babies with Penicillin so that they can get an even worse infection that can't be cured with antibiotics. Ugh. Getting off my soapbox now.

 

On the fun side the babies are both weighing 2 pounds 11 ounces at 27+5 which is above average for twins, and the peri is very happy, as am I :) Here are 2 profile pics of Cael, as he was being cooperative and Tristan was not :) They're both looking extremely healthy and moving around A LOT. They're still both transverse, but seeing a Chiropractor now, and he has managed to get one of them flipped and heading kind of down, so ? Still talking to them, and doing spinning babies, hopefully that will work!

 

Anyway, hope everyone's having a great week!

 

Oh, and PPS- I lost a pound (since my appointment 4 weeks ago) these boys are eating all my food!!! ;)

 

 

 

Cael Profile 27 +5.jpg


Edited by Nanette56 - 1/12/11 at 11:20am
post #107 of 160

I had my appointment today as well (I "forgot" to do my glucose test, lol.  I've successfully put them off since 23 weeks!).  It was reassuring to see the babies because I've been having a hard time due to a friend's loss.  They are both looking great.  Asher is vertex and we saw him yawn - so cute!!!  Boston is cramped up under my left lung kind of transverse (his body is and his legs are hanging down.  They're both 2 lbs at 26w 2d.

 

I also talked about my birth plan (I didn't have it with me just a prelim talk) and said how I have more concerns about the babies after delivery and only a few labor/delivery wishes.  We talked about labor and delivery and we seem to have the same goals.  She is setting up a consult with the neonatologist about the babies so I can discuss my needs.  I'm really nervous about that but the OB agreed that if I have term, healthy babies vaginally and they can stay with me I'll have much less hassle about baby care.

 

I havent' even talked GBS yet.  When do they test for that?  I was neg with my DD so I'm crossing my fingers for that this time.  There is NO WAY I'm getting ABX!  I hate prophylactic medicine.  ugh!

 

It is also important to me to keep my placentas.  She said something about talking to the pathologist?  I bet they're going to go the "it is medical waste" route.  SIgh.  I'm definitely getting this ironed out before I deliver. 

 

It was so much easier to have a midwife that just nodded at all my "weird" requests.  I'm glad this isn't my first time.  Delivering in a major hospital as a first timer would be so stressful!

 

Cael is gorgeous!!! :) 

post #108 of 160

So glad your appointments went well, ladies!  Very nice pics, Nanette.:-)

I am planning a home birth, but I've been wondering how much I should try to have ironed out in case I end up delivering early in the hospital.  Writing up a birth plan and trying to discuss it with my back-up OB just seems like a lot more to add to my plate, when I'm still concerned about buying carseats and buying my birth supplies.<sigh>

I am SOOO ready to be done, but I really, really don't want them born before March 5, or I'll have to go to the hospital.

Baby A has been great about being head down this whole time, but Baby B just can't get comfy.

Every time he manages to get vertex, they struggle like crazy, as if it's super uncomfortable for both of them, and Baby B ends up flipping back up to transverse.  I figure transverse is closer to what we want than breech, and if he keeps moving like this, surely he will move during labor?  Ugh.  I just don't know.  My midwife doesn't want him to be transverse, but is it really that big a deal to get him to move a bit once Baby A is delivered?  Most things I've read make it sound like midwives and Dr.s often have to move the second twin into a better position.  I hate how he feels; I mean, I get the feeling that he can't get comfortable, and I'd hate for him to kick his brother out early just because he can't find a good position, ya know?  I dreamed last night that I could feel them both really well, as if my uterus had thinned down to parchment paper, basically, and I was trying to convince them to stay in for a while and get along, since it seemed they were trying to be born.  I was literally trying to hold them in.:-)  I had a head in each hand!LOL  They are both vertex at this moment, so a lot of struggling going on.

I have what I think of as pregnancy-induced arthritis.  Very stiff and painful joints, particularly in the mornings.  Anyone else have that?  I also have lots of tingling and numbness in my hands, which lasts all day.  Thankfully the heartburn is only sporadic, or I think I'd want to die.  Honestly.  I knew this pregnancy was different form the get-go, but it seems to so rapidly increase all my symptoms, and worsen ones I already have.  I'm trying not to dread how much worse things could get, but it's not easy.  Please tell me I'm not the only one who is really, seriously disliking her pregnancy???  I do realize it's my 6th one and I'll be 36 this month, but this is HARD.

Sorry for the vent.  I'm tired of telling my hubby, who tries to be understanding, but still has more of a "I just marvel at you, honey" sort of attitude.

post #109 of 160

I am having a hard time too, Hope4six.  I'm very uncomfortable.  Baby B is right up under my left rib cage so I can hardly breathe.  My heart thing (PVCs) are getting worse and more frequent and I've been having insomnia.  I"m not worried about anything but I just CAN'T fall asleep!  I was up till 3 last night.  I get winded and out of breathe easilly and get lightheaded whenever I bend over.  Don't even get me started on my SPD!  Yikes.

 

Hope4six - is March 5 36 weeks?  What is the cut off for your MW to homebirth?  My 36 week mark is March 22 so that is my goal.

 

Do you guys work outside the home?  When do you plan to stop? 

 

I'm having a lot of trouble with my mood.  I cry all the time.  I'm crying now.  I don't know what's wrong with me.  I mean I was just shaken by my friend that lost her baby at 32 weeks but I know worrying won't help that.  I don't know if that is what this is about or if it is just hormonal but I'm a mess.  Anyone else?  What can I do?

post #110 of 160
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I am having a hard time too, Hope4six.  I'm very uncomfortable.  Baby B is right up under my left rib cage so I can hardly breathe.  My heart thing (PVCs) are getting worse and more frequent and I've been having insomnia.  I"m not worried about anything but I just CAN'T fall asleep!  I was up till 3 last night.  I get winded and out of breathe easilly and get lightheaded whenever I bend over.  Don't even get me started on my SPD!  Yikes.

 

Hope4six - is March 5 36 weeks?  What is the cut off for your MW to homebirth?  My 36 week mark is March 22 so that is my goal.

 

Do you guys work outside the home?  When do you plan to stop? 

 

I'm having a lot of trouble with my mood.  I cry all the time.  I'm crying now.  I don't know what's wrong with me.  I mean I was just shaken by my friend that lost her baby at 32 weeks but I know worrying won't help that.  I don't know if that is what this is about or if it is just hormonal but I'm a mess.  Anyone else?  What can I do?


Aww, Liora...I'm so sorry you're feeling so bad. You, too, Hope4six. *hugs* to you both. I'm pretty much 100% miserable all the time too.

How about wejust get together this week, Liora. Our LO are so close in age, and I know would love to play. PM me or let me know somehow. smile.gif
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I had my appointment today as well (I "forgot" to do my glucose test, lol.  I've successfully put them off since 23 weeks!).  It was reassuring to see the babies because I've been having a hard time due to a friend's loss.  They are both looking great.  Asher is vertex and we saw him yawn - so cute!!!  Boston is cramped up under my left lung kind of transverse (his body is and his legs are hanging down.  They're both 2 lbs at 26w 2d.

 

I also talked about my birth plan (I didn't have it with me just a prelim talk) and said how I have more concerns about the babies after delivery and only a few labor/delivery wishes.  We talked about labor and delivery and we seem to have the same goals.  She is setting up a consult with the neonatologist about the babies so I can discuss my needs.  I'm really nervous about that but the OB agreed that if I have term, healthy babies vaginally and they can stay with me I'll have much less hassle about baby care.

 

I havent' even talked GBS yet.  When do they test for that?  I was neg with my DD so I'm crossing my fingers for that this time.  There is NO WAY I'm getting ABX!  I hate prophylactic medicine.  ugh!

 

It is also important to me to keep my placentas.  She said something about talking to the pathologist?  I bet they're going to go the "it is medical waste" route.  SIgh.  I'm definitely getting this ironed out before I deliver. 

 

It was so much easier to have a midwife that just nodded at all my "weird" requests.  I'm glad this isn't my first time.  Delivering in a major hospital as a first timer would be so stressful!

 

Cael is gorgeous!!! :) 

 

Yay mama! Glad everything is looking well! I hope your visit with the neonatologists goes well! I don't know when they typically test for GBS in a twin pregnancy, it's usually between 36 and 38 weeks for singletons, so I'm guessing between 34 and 36 for twins? No idea, since they won't give me one :/ I'm still planning on going the U/C route, because I'm afraid they'll whisk the babies away to the NICU because of the GBS thing where my doc can't access them, I'm also afraid they'll cut the cord the minute they're born in order to do this....Maybe I'm just being irrational, but I hate the unpredictability of it all.

 

 

 


 

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So glad your appointments went well, ladies!  Very nice pics, Nanette.:-)

I am planning a home birth, but I've been wondering how much I should try to have ironed out in case I end up delivering early in the hospital.  Writing up a birth plan and trying to discuss it with my back-up OB just seems like a lot more to add to my plate, when I'm still concerned about buying carseats and buying my birth supplies.<sigh>

I am SOOO ready to be done, but I really, really don't want them born before March 5, or I'll have to go to the hospital.

Baby A has been great about being head down this whole time, but Baby B just can't get comfy.

Every time he manages to get vertex, they struggle like crazy, as if it's super uncomfortable for both of them, and Baby B ends up flipping back up to transverse.  I figure transverse is closer to what we want than breech, and if he keeps moving like this, surely he will move during labor?  Ugh.  I just don't know.  My midwife doesn't want him to be transverse, but is it really that big a deal to get him to move a bit once Baby A is delivered?  Most things I've read make it sound like midwives and Dr.s often have to move the second twin into a better position.  I hate how he feels; I mean, I get the feeling that he can't get comfortable, and I'd hate for him to kick his brother out early just because he can't find a good position, ya know?  I dreamed last night that I could feel them both really well, as if my uterus had thinned down to parchment paper, basically, and I was trying to convince them to stay in for a while and get along, since it seemed they were trying to be born.  I was literally trying to hold them in.:-)  I had a head in each hand!LOL  They are both vertex at this moment, so a lot of struggling going on.

I have what I think of as pregnancy-induced arthritis.  Very stiff and painful joints, particularly in the mornings.  Anyone else have that?  I also have lots of tingling and numbness in my hands, which lasts all day.  Thankfully the heartburn is only sporadic, or I think I'd want to die.  Honestly.  I knew this pregnancy was different form the get-go, but it seems to so rapidly increase all my symptoms, and worsen ones I already have.  I'm trying not to dread how much worse things could get, but it's not easy.  Please tell me I'm not the only one who is really, seriously disliking her pregnancy???  I do realize it's my 6th one and I'll be 36 this month, but this is HARD.

Sorry for the vent.  I'm tired of telling my hubby, who tries to be understanding, but still has more of a "I just marvel at you, honey" sort of attitude.


I've got the same transverse issues- but at least you have one head down lol! I've been talking to them every night and doing spinning babies, and will hopefully see some results in 3 weeks at my next u/s. They need to flip, because mama is starting to flip out!  Sorry to hear about the arthritis- I have pain and numbness in my hands, but only while sleeping- so I think it's just bad circulation in my case. And yes, the pregnancy itself sucks, though the rewards will be great :) Hang in there mama!


 

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I am having a hard time too, Hope4six.  I'm very uncomfortable.  Baby B is right up under my left rib cage so I can hardly breathe.  My heart thing (PVCs) are getting worse and more frequent and I've been having insomnia.  I"m not worried about anything but I just CAN'T fall asleep!  I was up till 3 last night.  I get winded and out of breathe easilly and get lightheaded whenever I bend over.  Don't even get me started on my SPD!  Yikes.

 

Hope4six - is March 5 36 weeks?  What is the cut off for your MW to homebirth?  My 36 week mark is March 22 so that is my goal.

 

Do you guys work outside the home?  When do you plan to stop? 

 

I'm having a lot of trouble with my mood.  I cry all the time.  I'm crying now.  I don't know what's wrong with me.  I mean I was just shaken by my friend that lost her baby at 32 weeks but I know worrying won't help that.  I don't know if that is what this is about or if it is just hormonal but I'm a mess.  Anyone else?  What can I do?


I have the same issue with the hardly breathing thing - I'll explain in detail below, tell me what you think. I've given up on the SPD, I can't get through the day without pain, so I just try to ignore it the best I can!

 

March 11 is my 36 week cut-off- I can't believe it's like 7.5 weeks away already!

 

I work outside the home, but it's my own firm, so I'm just going to work until the very end (no one seems concerned about me doing this- I have one hearing this week and then I'm done going to court for a while though) I'm hoping I can take the babies back to work with me around 2-3 weeks. I'm going to have a little nursery set up for them (where the copy room is) I mainly deal with the elderly, and only have 2-3 clients a day, so we don't get much germ exposure on that front. Do you work outside the home? What are your plans?

 

After you posted that loss thing- that's all I can think about now too. But I think we have to put it into perspective, and think about alllll the uncomplicated successful twin births there are. And her circumstances were different than ours- one of her babies wasn't growing as well from what I read (though it ended up being the other one that passed), and weren't they sharing a placenta or a sack or something? We just need to think positive, keep talking to the LO's and let them know everything's going to be fine. It's always hard to hear about a loss, especially the closer we get to our DD.

 

AFM- I think I have developed pregnancy induced asthma. What do you guys think? I had terrible allergies all day yesterday- runny nose, watery eyes, sneezing, the works. I don't know what it came from, other than that I was working in the nursery (which is FINALLY done by the way) and that's the only room that has carpet in it. So skip to last night. I woke up to use the bathroom and when I got back to bed and laid down and I felt like I was gasping for breath. I wasn't really literally gasping, but it definitely felt like I wasn't getting enough air. I almost had a panick attack. I had to sit up, and it still didn't help. This went on for about 45 minutes, and I've been wheezing ever since. You can hear it when I breathe. Do you guys think this is just pregnancy related shortness of breath? Or could it be asthma? I've never had it before in my life, and I was very active before getting pregnant- i.e. 5ks 10ks, half marathons, ultras- never had breathing issues! WTH??? I don't want to tell my OB, because he'll have another freak-out moment, but I'll be seeing my M/W today, so I guess I'll ask her. I just want to be able to control it during labor if that's what it is. But don't know how it gets diagnosed. Thanks for the help ladies!

post #112 of 160
Nanette-replies are so hard on my phone, and that's why my spelling is bad sometimes. Lol. So, I'll just have to adress you this way. The wheezing is one of the main indicators of asthma. Shortness of breath can be many things, but wheezing is caused by the airways being swollen. Bronchitis/pneumonia/etc can also cause wheezing, but you would know if you were sick. I've had it for at least 16 years, so for what its worth, mine also gets much worse when I'm preg. It is very, very scary. I hope you can find a way to control it, if it happens again, if you're not going to be able to get an inhaler.
post #113 of 160
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Thank you! The wheezing is still there, and all morning even the smallest activities has me out of breath (worse than my normal preggo shortness of breath) the midwife listened, and she said the wheezing I can hear is upper respiratory/bronchial, but she also heard the same sound in my left lower lung. Nothing on the right, nothing on the upper left, just the lower left lobe. So I have an appointment with my GP to have him take a listen. I hope it's nothing :( How do you manage it during labor? Or has it ever interfered? That's my main concern. 

 

ETA: Went to the GP, he says it likely is asthma brought on by allergies. He prescribed a corticosteroid inhaler (category b) which I'm to take twice a day for a week, and then an albuterol inhaler (category c) for emergencies. We also cleaned the entire bedroom and kicked the poor kitty cat out, she does not know what to do with herself now :( But I slept like a log for the first time in ages and only had to get up twice to pee :)

 

PPS- 7.5  more weeks till I have some full term babies! Can you believe the time has flown by so fast???


Edited by Nanette56 - 1/17/11 at 4:00pm
post #114 of 160
Thread Starter 

Sorry I'm hogging the board ladies- another quick question- I just started feeling this tremendously heavy pelvic pressure in the last several days. I don't know if I can call it painful (almost maybe?) but it is really really uncomfortable. Anyone else have this? (I'm paranoid now that every time I sit on the toilet I'm going to rupture my water or something!)

post #115 of 160

I am sad to say that I am no longer pregnant.

My boys were born via emergency c-section Friday afternoon.

Lucas and David are both stable and doing pretty well in the NICU.

post #116 of 160
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I am sad to say that I am no longer pregnant.

My boys were born via emergency c-section Friday afternoon.

Lucas and David are both stable and doing pretty well in the NICU.



Oh my goodness Hope4six!  I'm so sorry it was an emergency but congratulations on your boys!  I will keep you all in my prayers that they grow strong and healthy.  Please update us when you can.  ((hugs))

post #117 of 160

I hope you are okay and that your babies continue to do well in the NICU.  Much love and healing to you all!!

post #118 of 160
So sorry, Hope4six. I am so glad that your boys are at least doing well. I guess this means that you had the very first babies of our DDC.
post #119 of 160

Nanette - I want to say please get that checked out.  It's not normal to feel that much pressure, and if you are worried about impending labor, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!

I had all sorts of signs and premonitions that let me know what was coming, but I tried to brush them all off, and just "get over it".

Please take care of yourself and those babies!

post #120 of 160

I'm sorry it was an emergency C-section, but congratulations on your boys!!  I hope you all recover well. 

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