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post #1 of 68
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The debt thread got me wondering what others plan for their kids educations. We really want the kids to NOT have student debt, so our plan is 2 years of community college living home (unless they have substantial scholarships) and then 2 years away at a state university. We can swing that.

I'd much rather them do CC and a state school than have debt. It would be nice to be rich, but since we aren't.....
post #2 of 68
We already have 529s for each of them with a substantial amount of money in each. We live in a university town, so if they want to live at home to save money, they're more than welcome to do that. Our state also pays tuition for students who are residents of the state and earn at least a cumulative 3.0 gpa in high school. If they choose to go out of state, they will have their 529s and we'll do everything we can to ensure they can get out of school with no debt. We'll help as much as we can. Or, maybe they'll want to go to some sort of trade school instead, and that's okay too.
post #3 of 68
I've got to say, I'm not worried about college funds.

I think community schools as a start are great ways to figure out what you want to "be" and they are affordable so we can start there. And if no college is what they want, that's fine too!
post #4 of 68
I will give them as much as I am able to. By the time they're in college, I will probably be working full-time. Since we structure our budget to be based on just what dh makes, I would hopefully be able to give them all of what I'm bringing in.

It's likely that they'll also be getting help from both sets of grandparents too.
post #5 of 68
Not much. I had a small plan for ds1, which will pay off a few hundred, plus return most of my roughly four thousand investment. I have nothing put away for the younger three. College educations, if my kids want them, are something I'll help out with, to some extent, if I'm reasonably able to do so. But, I don't see them as my responsibility.
post #6 of 68
We have been saving but it won't be enough. We don't want them to go in-state, the university here is not so good. We are hoping they can pick up some (free) credits via the local community college during their high school years, that will transfer wherever they go. My cousin did this and started college as a second-semester sophomore.

I worked in Res Life for 8 years. I really firmly believe that college should be paid for by the student themselves. Obviously, they may not be able to pay entirely for it, but as much as possible is best, IME. I watched many, many students (at private, large public, and small public universities alike) whose parents were taking out second or third mortgages, working extra jobs, bending over backwards to provide an education to their kids - while their kids are partying and flunking out. Not every student whose parents are paying for their education is going to be in that situation - and not everyone who's paying their own way will take it seriously - but completely anecdotally, it seemed that more of the students who were in trouble had parents who were paying their way, than otherwise. DH's grandparents and parents paid most of his education; I took out loans for mine; dh didn't get in trouble, but I sure spent a lot of time talking with parents whose kids were in Big Trouble and were not taking their parents' sacrifices seriously at all. I remember talking with one mother who was in tears planning to come pull her student out of school, working two jobs and had just found out he'd flunked the previous semester (all Fs). I couldn't discuss his discipline file with her, but he was nearing the point where he was going to be kicked out of the halls for his behavior issues in the halls, too --- in the end she decided not to pull him. I encouraged her as much as I could without revealing his file (confidentiality) - but she left him in. I know for a fact he flunked the second semester too - and was involved in a discipline situation which got him kicked out of that state's entire university system. They were paying out of state tuition for him, too. I felt so, so bad for his family! They probably wasted about $20,000 on his education that year, and it was a total waste of money.

Ideally, what we will do, is help with expenses - but our kids will need to be working FT over the summer at least, and working while at school too (research shows that ten hours/week actually raises students' GPAs) .... take out their loans to cover college, and then when they graduate, pay down most if not all of those loans. That way, they'll have to work for their education while they're in school, but not be left with tremendous student loan debt when they're done. Plus, it would be good for their credit ratings.

My parents couldn't help at all. We are still paying down my student loans, and we've been paying sometimes double our monthly payments. If we didn't have my student loan debt, we would have so many more options (for family size, for where and how we live, etc.). I'd like my kids not to have that debt hanging over their heads like mine hangs over our heads.

What I'd really like is for something to be done to address the fact that the cost of a college education is going up several times faster than inflation and has been for literally a couple decades now.
post #7 of 68
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
The debt thread got me wondering what others plan for their kids educations. We really want the kids to NOT have student debt, so our plan is 2 years of community college living home (unless they have substantial scholarships) and then 2 years away at a state university. We can swing that.

I'd much rather them do CC and a state school than have debt. It would be nice to be rich, but since we aren't.....
I want my kids to have an opportunity I never had. Luckily, we live in Alaska and each person receives an annual PFD (Permanent Fund Dividend). This year it was $1281 per individual. My goal is to continue putting theirs into an account (I had my mom open it in her name so we .. read my husband.... won't be tempted to take it out and couldn't if we ... he ... wanted to). We once used theirs plus ours to pay of a debt, but the rest of these 5 years, we've successfully deposited and saved their PFD's in that special account. This money is intended for paying their college, but it's not required. If my daughters decide to buy a house first, they'll be able to use the money for that. I don't want to feel like I've saved this money for them all those years to see them waste it, but essentially, this is their money, and once they're legally adults, I want them to have it.

So I guess I'd "give them" exactly how much I will have eventually saved up from the years of living in Alaska. I don't see us moving out of state any time soon, if ever. At this rate I may save up around 30,000 to 40,000 dollars for each of them. That's quite a lot of money. Many Alaskans use the PFD's to pay bills, prepay heating expenses, buy new furniture, toys, vehicles, 'put food on the table', buy winter clothing, etc, but I use theirs toward their future savings. We're poor year round, and getting a windfall every fall and spending it doesn't seem prudent to me.
post #8 of 68
Theoretically I'd like to contribute on some kind of ratio basis, like throw in 2 or 3 dollars for every one my son earns via work or scholarships.

I definitely would like to help, but not completely cover all costs. I also think working for a year or two between high school and university can be a good experience IF you have a child that isn't going to get hooked on the disposable income bit.
post #9 of 68
We plan on helping out, if they want to go to college. But we're not going to jeopardize our retirement savings, take out a second mortgage or anything like that in order to do so. I plan on talking to them about responsibly using credit cards and not falling into the same traps we did when we were that age. I don't think we're going to be able to help with tuition (and certainly won't be able to if they want to go to a high priced school) but we'll certainly try to help with living expenses, books, etc.
post #10 of 68
At this point, I have no idea how much I'll be able to contribute. Of course, I'm hoping ds gets a full scholarship.
post #11 of 68
I am going to strongly, strongly encourage in state school, CC if there is no possibility of any scholarships, for the first two years. What we do for the next two will depend on how he or she does.

I will not be paying for my kid to party and flunk out.
post #12 of 68
DH are planning to help as much as we can. Right now both kids have college accounts set up and we match everything that goes in. Right now all that's in it is what they get for birthdays, Christmas, etc. DH really does not want either kid to do community college and would love it if they went to his college. There will be conditions on us helping though, like anything lower than a C and you're home, you are not majoring in anything like dance, medieval literature, etc and expecting us to help pay, etc.
post #13 of 68
We don't have the income at the moment to put away for their schooling. And we will NOT be giving them a full ride either.

I know family (and especially my parents) are putting away money for the future. However it will not need to be spent on Collage/university.

There are so many options out there that do not require a generic Uni degree and sometimes pay more. We will encourage our children to look at all of the options first and consider future families, houses, cars and retirement.

While I have no problem with them living at home for the first couple years, I would *like* them to experience living on their own for at least a year as well. I strongly believe that life experience is as important, if not way more important, than educational experience.

If we are in a position to help largely then we would consider helping them pay "part" during and help pay off debt after. I do believe there is more incentive to do well and to take pride in your work when you pay for it yourself.
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post #14 of 68
As much as we can.
post #15 of 68
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Originally Posted by DaughterOfKali View Post
At this point, I have no idea how much I'll be able to contribute. Of course, I'm hoping ds gets a full scholarship.
This worked for us.
post #16 of 68
DS1 has a 529 w/ ~$1000 as of now... honestly it should have at least twice that, but we just have not been able to make contributions to it for the past couple yrs... hoping to get back in the swing of that and also get ds2 added to it...
post #17 of 68
as someone whose parents paid her college tuition, I'm definitely not paying all for my kids, and definitely not at the detriment of our own retirement. I do think that you value school more if you are working, and I definitely don't want my kids to feel responsible for me when I am older.
post #18 of 68
We're still working out our differences of opinion on the how/when we'll help with higher education.

Meanwhile, our financial plan is to pay off our mortgage by the time our DD is ready to go to college or trade school or whatever higher education suits her. We re-financed earlier this year from a 30 year fixed to a 15 year fixed (much lower rate) to move us closer to that goal. At the soonest, we have ten years. I'm very okay with a brief break between high school and college, so it could be 11-12 years. We also pay extra towards principal each month and put bonuses and other chunks of cash towards principal to achieve our goal. We have a spreadsheet that has the details, so we can manipulate the numbers and see it frequently.

Then, we'll have the flexibility to help financially however we resolve our conflict. I am strongly in favor of "you figure it out now" (with our non-financial assistance). And, then, we'll potentially help after the fact. DH is more of the "my parents paid my way and I want to pay my child's way". We both have degrees, but I value mine WAY MORE than he does. I also learned a lot more about personal fiscal responsibility at a younger age than most of my friends.
post #19 of 68
This isn't a theoretical question for me since my son is a college freshman. I never saved any money for his education, I meant to but kept putting it off for a variety of reasons including going back and getting my own degree.

We have been fortunate, he is attending a small liberal arts college in the Midwest and the financial aid package has been generous. He received several scholarships, one substantially large one for $20,000 and a few smaller ones. He did take out a loan for $5000 and I am basically paying room and board which on a monthly basis is $450 a month. The plan for next year is that he will apply to be an RA which reduce his expenses even more so that he won't need another loan but mostly likely I will still have that $450 monthly nut.

It's not painful granted that is money I could be using to pay down my own debt though in this case it's what we were paying for monthly childcare for his sister who is now in kindy. So as I joke I simply exchanged childcare costs for college costs.

In our case state schools would have been more costly since while the cost was cheaper they were not offering the type of aid that the private school offered.
post #20 of 68
My husband and I both did ROTC in college, and I also worked/had scholarships/was an RA to get myself through. DH had about $10,000 fom his grandparents that went to cover the difference left by ROTC. We both are debt free, and so grateful.

We have two children - one will get my husband's GI Bill, and there is $20,000 in a 529 for the other. Both are still under 3.

My husband and I both earned our way through college, but know this isn't possible for everyone anymore. Costs are only going up. This is also one of the reasons we're probably stopping at two. We appreciate our small liberal arts education tremendously, and want our children to have that option without HAVING to choose the Army, etc.
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