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10/30/10 at 1:54am
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10/30/10 at 2:52am
Since crunchy/AP type moms are already in the minority, I think its in bad taste to make fun of them. It's an unflattering stereotype and not at all like most of the mommies I know. Actually I think its mixing stereotypes really. It seems to be combining the type A, control-freak, "my-child-and-everything-I-do-has-to-be-perfect" mother with the co-sleeping, breastfeeding, gentle discipline mom, which in most cases are totally different.
Also I don't understand why its always assumed that just because a person parents differently than you that they're looking down at you and judging you. I guess it made me sad because I almost identified with the B!*$#y mom a bit. I do feel sad to hear that a mom isn't breastfeeding, but usually I just feel bad because I know how little support and how few resources are out there. I do think that breastmilk is a child's birthright, but it's society that is letting the baby down, not his/her mother. And it was the other mother who brought up the sleep issue in the first place. I suppose she was just looking for someone to talk to about how awful but necessary the whole "sleep-training" process was.
I suppose I have met some really crunchy mama's for whom in comparison, I felt "not-crunchy-enough." But I think its less an issue of them looking down on me, as me just not living up to the incredibly high standards I may have set for myself before the reality of parenthood set in.
Also I don't understand why its always assumed that just because a person parents differently than you that they're looking down at you and judging you. I guess it made me sad because I almost identified with the B!*$#y mom a bit. I do feel sad to hear that a mom isn't breastfeeding, but usually I just feel bad because I know how little support and how few resources are out there. I do think that breastmilk is a child's birthright, but it's society that is letting the baby down, not his/her mother. And it was the other mother who brought up the sleep issue in the first place. I suppose she was just looking for someone to talk to about how awful but necessary the whole "sleep-training" process was.
I suppose I have met some really crunchy mama's for whom in comparison, I felt "not-crunchy-enough." But I think its less an issue of them looking down on me, as me just not living up to the incredibly high standards I may have set for myself before the reality of parenthood set in.
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Also I don't understand why its always assumed that just because a person parents differently than you that they're looking down at you and judging you. I guess it made me sad because I almost identified with the B!*$#y mom a bit. I do feel sad to hear that a mom isn't breastfeeding, but usually I just feel bad because I know how little support and how few resources are out there. I do think that breastmilk is a child's birthright, but it's society that is letting the baby down, not his/her mother. And it was the other mother who brought up the sleep issue in the first place. I suppose she was just looking for someone to talk to about how awful but necessary the whole "sleep-training" process was.
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I find a lot of crunchy people when in relation to folks who do things differently, out of necessity or just because, either judge them as less educated, less involved, less caring, less something, key word being less or as some sad case who needs to be saved.
I mean of all the parenting forums I frequent, I've never encountered more judgment for people who do things differently. I do enjoy my time here and like coming for crunchy parenting advice or sharing my two cents, but there are times where I find it a lot like that video.
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10/30/10 at 1:08pm
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10/30/10 at 6:07pm
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Respectfully, I think this is the kind of stuff that gets people going on the stereotypes. I have three children, I do not produce enough breast milk to keep a child fed. My kids aren't let down by society or me. There is no reason to feel sad or pity them. They are healthy, loved, intelligent happy little boys.
I find a lot of crunchy people when in relation to folks who do things differently, out of necessity or just because, either judge them as less educated, less involved, less caring, less something, key word being less or as some sad case who needs to be saved. I mean of all the parenting forums I frequent, I've never encountered more judgment for people who do things differently. I do enjoy my time here and like coming for crunchy parenting advice or sharing my two cents, but there are times where I find it a lot like that video. |
And frankly I know it goes both ways. Crunchy mamas aren't the only parents to act judgmental toward other parents. I remember being told all the time that I was going to ruin my child by not letting her cry it out. I know plenty of mainstream folks who consider any parent unwilling to use time-outs a negligent permissive parent. I have been told that I am damaging my child by nursing them so long. Or that I'm a horrible person, putting everyone else at risk for not Vaxing my kids. I'm not saying parents aren't judgmental, just that crunchy parents don't have a monopoly on it. I still think it's in poor taste to single out a group that is already doing things differently than the mainstream and then making it seem like they're the only ones walking around with a holier-than-thou attitude. I think it would have been a funnier joke (not to mention more realistic) if both sides had participated in the one-up-manship, instead of making the mainstream mama the victim of the evil AP mama's judgment and ridicule.
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10/30/10 at 7:27pm
Ok, I admit the video made me laugh. I didn't watch the whole thing though because the voices annoyed me.
It reminded me of when we see threads here that are titled something like:
"I need ideas on what to feed my 3 yo"
In the replies you pretty much always get a few people that have a list like this:
Breakfast:
Organic yogurt with organic blueberries
Local, farm fresh, cage free, chicken egg
Organic Milk from a local farmer
Lunch:
Quesadilla made with gluten free, homemade tortillas, fresh tomatoes from our garden, local, free range chicken, and organic cheese
Supper:
Grass fed beef
Corn from our CSA
Mashed potatoes made with organic potatoes, organic butter, sea salt, and organic milk from a local farmer
Of course I made that all up, but if you've read the forums for long you know what I mean. The original question had NOTHING to do with where you get the food you feed your 3 yo, so I find it a bit much when people feel they must list every little thing as organic, homemade, locally produced, etc. It just seems like one-upmanship "I feed my child better than you feed yours".
It reminded me of when we see threads here that are titled something like:
"I need ideas on what to feed my 3 yo"
In the replies you pretty much always get a few people that have a list like this:
Breakfast:
Organic yogurt with organic blueberries
Local, farm fresh, cage free, chicken egg
Organic Milk from a local farmer
Lunch:
Quesadilla made with gluten free, homemade tortillas, fresh tomatoes from our garden, local, free range chicken, and organic cheese
Supper:
Grass fed beef
Corn from our CSA
Mashed potatoes made with organic potatoes, organic butter, sea salt, and organic milk from a local farmer
Of course I made that all up, but if you've read the forums for long you know what I mean. The original question had NOTHING to do with where you get the food you feed your 3 yo, so I find it a bit much when people feel they must list every little thing as organic, homemade, locally produced, etc. It just seems like one-upmanship "I feed my child better than you feed yours".

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10/30/10 at 7:52pm
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Ok, I admit the video made me laugh. I didn't watch the whole thing though because the voices annoyed me.
It reminded me of when we see threads here that are titled something like: "I need ideas on what to feed my 3 yo" In the replies you pretty much always get a few people that have a list like this: Breakfast: Organic yogurt with organic blueberries Local, farm fresh, cage free, chicken egg Organic Milk from a local farmer Lunch: Quesadilla made with gluten free, homemade tortillas, fresh tomatoes from our garden, local, free range chicken, and organic cheese Supper: Grass fed beef Corn from our CSA Mashed potatoes made with organic potatoes, organic butter, sea salt, and organic milk from a local farmer Of course I made that all up, but if you've read the forums for long you know what I mean. The original question had NOTHING to do with where you get the food you feed your 3 yo, so I find it a bit much when people feel they must list every little thing as organic, homemade, locally produced, etc. It just seems like one-upmanship "I feed my child better than you feed yours". ![]() |

I thought the videos were hysterical, and my darling husband asked, "Are you SURE she doesn't post on MDC?"
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10/31/10 at 9:09am
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That was hilarious!!!
It's just an extreme like these http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit...10/VYf5HDM5YQE
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit.../8/yFZ9YrsB2b0
I love this one too
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit.../1/pIN3btFCTGw
It's just an extreme like these http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit...10/VYf5HDM5YQE
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit.../8/yFZ9YrsB2b0
I love this one too
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mompetit.../1/pIN3btFCTGw
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10/31/10 at 9:14am
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Ok, I admit the video made me laugh. I didn't watch the whole thing though because the voices annoyed me.
It reminded me of when we see threads here that are titled something like: "I need ideas on what to feed my 3 yo" In the replies you pretty much always get a few people that have a list like this: Breakfast: Organic yogurt with organic blueberries Local, farm fresh, cage free, chicken egg Organic Milk from a local farmer Lunch: Quesadilla made with gluten free, homemade tortillas, fresh tomatoes from our garden, local, free range chicken, and organic cheese Supper: Grass fed beef Corn from our CSA Mashed potatoes made with organic potatoes, organic butter, sea salt, and organic milk from a local farmer Of course I made that all up, but if you've read the forums for long you know what I mean. The original question had NOTHING to do with where you get the food you feed your 3 yo, so I find it a bit much when people feel they must list every little thing as organic, homemade, locally produced, etc. It just seems like one-upmanship "I feed my child better than you feed yours". ![]() |
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Funny
It's awesome. I love it.Honestly, I cringe when I read posts or meet moms like either of these stereotypes.
Crunchier-than-thou moms are almost worse. They hurt the cause of AP rather than forward it. This kind of attitude is not how you get the word out, and present AP ideals as worthy of consideration.
I also find it massively funny when people suggest that the age at which a child crawls or uses the toilet is somehow an indicator of superior parenting.
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It's awesome. I love it.
Honestly, I cringe when I read posts or meet moms like either of these stereotypes. Crunchier-than-thou moms are almost worse. They hurt the cause of AP rather than forward it. This kind of attitude is not how you get the word out, and present AP ideals as worthy of consideration. I also find it massively funny when people suggest that the age at which a child crawls or uses the toilet is somehow an indicator of superior parenting. |
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I saw this a month or so ago and LMAO, I live in the land of up-crunchy-ing. If you haven't had a homebirth, CD, never give a bottle, use only wooden toys, eat only all organic-you are on your own. SO I AM on my own. I had an emergency CS, gave both kids bottles at 1 month with pumped milk, I eat some junk food, use sposies because I friggin HATE laundry and my DD carries a Disney Princess lunch-box.
I honestly laughed so hard I cried, it's sad but true. The mommy wars are simply incredibly stupid and that's why I find it sadly funny.
I honestly laughed so hard I cried, it's sad but true. The mommy wars are simply incredibly stupid and that's why I find it sadly funny.
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I had a crunchy friend send this to me through FB... and honestly, I see the humor in it... but I am really working hard on myself to be less judgemental and more open to other moms regardless of parenting style. I know I'm bad about it... and I want to be better. So I guess this hit a little too close to home for me right and mad me kind of sad b/c I know I've been that mom.
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10/31/10 at 11:25pm
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