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Really worried about dh

post #1 of 10
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my dh has not felt well in months. He has always lived a healthy lifestyle, ate well, regular exercise, no bad health habits (smoking, drinking, etc) He has never been overweight. Over the last year or two he has gradually been getting sicker. It started off as feeling more fatigued than usual, even when he was sleeping well. Then his physical endurance started going downhill, despite going to martial arts classes 3-5 times a week. We went to the doctor to get physicals when we were trying to get insurance, and found out that his blood pressure, which has always been on the low end of normal, was high. It was tested several times, in the doctor's office and at the drug store, to rule out white coat syndrome. We also discovered that his blood oxygen level is chronically low, we bought a pulse oxymeter so he could monitor it. It usually hangs around 91-93, though it gets worse with exercise. The doctor did some simple exercise tests with him, and listened a lot to his heart, but said he couldn't tell us anything and it would be better to see a cardiologist. He quit his martial arts classes because he just couldn't handle it anymore. He is tired all the time, he sleeps 10-12 hours a night and wakes up still feeling tired. His legs are often restless at night. The most concerning things are that lately when he doesn't take things really easy he feels a slight pressure in his chest. And now this morning I asked him how he was feeling and he said he was a little out of breath. He went walking this morning, but it was a couple hours later when he was still out of breath.

Dh is self employed, we do not have insurance. We've been trying to get it, and are going to be able to in January, but I am getting really worried and think he should go see a doctor now. Dh wants to wait until January, so we don't get stuck with no coverage for whatever it is that's wrong with him.

I really don't want to screw us over with high medical bills, we are not in great shape financially, but we're doing fine. We won't be doing fine anymore if we have to pay for something major.

I told him this morning that I really didn't think it was a good idea to wait anymore, and that even if he didn't go now, I doubted he'd be able to wait 2 more months. He says he doesn't feel that much worse than a few months ago, and doesn't want to "give in" and give up the chance that we could have insurance coverage for this. He agreed to call his dad and get his opinion. His dad is level headed, I think he'll get good advice. But in the mean time, does anybody have any idea what's wrong? Or been here? I'm just really worried.
post #2 of 10
If you saw a holistic doctor it likely wouldn't cancel you out of getting insurance coverage. You would have to double check... but if you go to a doctor they aren't likely to diagnose him with anything right away. that generally takes a few or so trips you know? blood labs and so forth. so if he's feeling that bad he shoul go asap.

To be honest I don't think too highly of medical docs anyhow. I'm a holistic girl - in my opinion they are usually more helpful. But that's me

Does he get enough magnesium? In the mean time I might play around with things like that. Mineral depletion can make you constantly exhausted, especially after work outs. from what I can remember it might have to do with blood pressure to but I would look into it first.

(p.s. we never have insurance so I feel ya. It's a pain to operate in an insurance based world. but it's not impossible)
post #3 of 10
First off please don't take what I say as the law or anything, this is just from my work and personal experience. I'm an RN.

My first thought with some of the shortness of breath would be concern for a pumonary embolism, you can have them and not know until they are causing significant breathing troubles. Unfortunately my sister in law was experiencing shortness of breath and they kept telling her it was anxiety, she died two days later at 42 of a pulmonary embolism. But this would likely be more of an acute thing, not something that developed over 2 years.

I also think it sounds like it could certainly be cardiac in nature. Sounds like he is having angina. Though I love all things natural/homepathic/herbs etc, it may be best to get a regular MD evaluation at the ER just to rule out an acute, possibly life threatening, process. I work with people all the time who don't have insurance. In our state we have an indigent care program that helps with cost. Yes, you would be stuck with a bill, but there are lots of ways to get the bill down, payment plans etc. And of course, lots of people just never even pay (not that I'm recommending that).

I'm just more from the camp of better be safe than sorry, especially with something like chest pain and shortness of breath.

Again, I'm not a doctor or anything so take this all with a grain of salt. I hope you guys are able to figure out what will work best for you. In the end an ER visit is alot cheaper than weeks in the ICU or worse. Good Luck.
post #4 of 10
If he is having chest pressure and shortness of breath, I would get him in to a doctor asap, or better yet take a trip to the ER. I can understand why you would want to wait until January, but I would not mess with this. Like Wish said, I think there are ways that you can negotiate bills, create payment plans, if you just ask. And she's right - an ER visit is much less costly than a long stay in the hospital. And infinitely less costly than losing your hubs. (not saying this will happen, but those are symptoms of cardiac issues, which can be very very serious)

Plus... if your dh is anything like the rest of the men in the world, he is playing down his symptoms - I'll bet that they are actually much worse than he is letting on - especially since he's trying to convince himself that it's something that can wait until January.

Wish - I'm so sorry for your loss - what a terrible thing to happen - I'll keep your family in my prayers. (yours too, Angelorum!)
post #5 of 10
Oh, I am sorry to hear about the worry and stress. Being scared for your own health and the health of your loved ones is never easy...
That being said I definitely think it is worth it to try and do as much research as you can on vits and minerals that might be missing from his lifestyle. Also, have you guys considered looking into food as medicine?
There are so many awesome schools of thought out there and all types of healers that discuss food as medicine (i.e. McDougall, Weston Price, Dean Ornish)
Not that any of this is your exact answer but maybe researching and changing things up a little bit will make you guys feel like you have a little bit more control.
It is always worth a shot!
Naturopathic docs are expensive and generally you pay up front. ER visits are expensive, but you can pay them off when you have the finances, not right away.
Also, after I had my baby I had massive shortness of breath and leg swelling. They thought it was a pulmonary embolism. I had to have all sorts of tests. Well, it wasn't but I had a lot of comfort in covering all the bases. Ruling out heart problems, etc. We have a weighty ER bill that won't be paid off for a long time, but I truly feel that worrying is worse for your health than anything else.
Best of luck to you guys and well wishes to your hubby.
post #6 of 10
Oh just wanted to add....

I think the best idea would be a combo of both worlds, it may not have come across like that in my previous post.

See a physician asap for these acute issues. In the meantime look at diet, supplements, vits etc to see what else could cause the trouble. But I would rule out an acute process first, just to be safe.
post #7 of 10
look up pulmonary edema.
I would see a heart specialist asap.
I don't want to scare, I do however know it is hard to diagnose. I know of a very sad story of drs not believing parents when thier girl was experiencing similar symptoms. She passed away the day they finally gave a diagnosis after a few years of Drs. telling her parents it was all in the kids head and to stop giving in to her 'cry for attention'
post #8 of 10
Well you have low pulse ox, so I wouldn't think it could be easily passed off as anxiety or something. It does sound like lungs or heart. I think he should see someone really soon. I don't think an ER visit is over-reacting, really. But at least a cardiologist, and soon would be good.
post #9 of 10
Please don't wait to get this checked out. Sounds like a heart issue to me and waiting can be very dangerous! PLEASE PLEASE take him to see someone - preferably a cardiologist.
post #10 of 10
Because this is sudden onset and his blood pressure is increased as well I'd really want his heart checked out. And soon. Ugh. I don't know how to work the insurance stuff and I wish this country didn't have the issues with insurance coverage.

That said, his symptoms are also consistent with a sleep disorder. You mention symptoms consistent with sleep apnea and restless leg both. They do go together at times. Sometimes the restless leg is because the person is coming out of deep sleep to try to recover the airway. It could be one or either (or something else of course).

Some people with apnea (me) don't breath well during the day either. Their airway is compromised all the time and so they will have low oxygen while awake. It can affect the heart all on it's own. This is a really informative site. http://www.centerforsoundsleep.com/Sleep-Disorders.php

With those symptoms I really think he needs a sleep study but in priority you check that heart.

I think he needs some medical tests and soon.
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