Do you think vaxes work? - Page 2

[bcblondie]

No. I don't. I very much like those graphs. Any graphs you look up look almost identical. That alone is one of my main deciding factors.

I DO know that yes. My body has created antibodies in reponse to vaccines. I've had tests. But a) my chances of being in contact with X disease is SO slim. b) the side effects / risks of the vax are not worth it to me. And c ) even though I have those antibodies that doesn't guarantee I won't contract the disease. Even the drug companies admit that. They're looking for herd immunity. And that's only if you belive what they claim... The antibodies I have might not be for the newer strains, or strong enough at all, etc.

[cubbbyaf]

Originally Posted by caned & able

This is just my opinion based on my research and life experience:

Vaccines do not work the way they are designed to work. Humans have experimented with forms of vaccination for thousands of years; Chinese used a form of smallpox vaccination for centuries, and still there was smallpox. It has been quarantine, improved nutrition, irrigation, and sanitation of the last one hundred and fifty years that has improved the rate of morbidity and mortality of infectious and childhood disease outcomes, not government-coerced, artificial immunizations.

Instead of infectious disease, we have chronic disease. For example, instead of chicken pox, we now have adults with shingles.

IF this is preventative medicine, I will take my chances with disease.

Just my carefully researched, educated observation, nothing more, nothing less.

Editted to add that I do not believe in the germ theory of disease. I suspect that science has been stopped from progressing because of this. We are still stuck in the 18th century as far as disease prevention and treatment are concerned.

I agree! I don't believe in the efficacy of vaxes and I believe more diseases are spread with vaxes than would be if they stopped giving them.

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by cubbbyaf

I agree! I don't believe in the efficacy of vaxes and I believe more diseases are spread with vaxes than would be if they stopped giving them.

Could you give an example of a disease that is spread by vaccination?

[TonyaW]

Wow, Pacifica the pear tree analogy really clicks with me and makes a lot of sense.

I don't vax and have really struggled with whether to vax my son for tetanus. I am not going to. I do believe some vaccines have some efficacy, but also believe that the risks of vaccines do not outweigh the benefits overall.

The only time I feel that vaccines benefits outweigh the risks are in places maybe like 3rd world countries with poor sanitation, lack of being able to seek out decent medical care, poor nutrition and so on. Even then I am somewhat skeptical of vaccines because if we put money into providing all of these things which they lack, then they are no longer vaccine deficient and have the immune system and basic needs to be able to deal with VAD's.

[zinemama]

Although I am a delayed/selective vaxxer, it is not because I don't believe vaccines work. I am quite satisfied that they do what they were developed to do.