Sunday will be 8dpo. My tests today were BFN. I expected it so no big deal.
While I agree that professional texts and institutions should stop using negative terminology to describe various functions of the female body (society does this with just about everything female), I don't experience menstruation as a failure. I am sad if I get it when I wanted to be pg but I've never felt like a failure because of it. IDK. That just has never occurred to me.
JJ: Reminds me of the discussion in TCOYF on C*mucus* vs C*fluid*. I see "mucus" as a technical term & don't associate it w/a negative connotation, but it was interesting to think about. I don't view menstruation as a failure. I guess I kind of look at it as preparing the best possible environment ATM for each egg/potential baby. If we didn't get rid of the old, the new wouldn't be optimal.
I have pre-O light nosebleeding today and extra EWCM, so even if we don't DTD tonight, which probably will, the CD15 BD will likely end up being only 3-4 days pre-O. I promise I'm not obsessing! 
Or seriously TTC. But I had to pin DH down on which side of the "whatevering" line we were...it's just too hard for me to know what's going on w/out TTA or TTC...if I know what's going on in my cycle, there are all those little, even subconscious, decisions about whether or not to DTD that come down on one side or the other. 
And we are on the TTC side of the line...
Experimenting w/pasting my chart in here...
How neat! I didn't realize you could do that now! That should come in handy.
I'm taking advantage of the not-pregnant-ness right now and finishing staining a piece of furniture we've had in the basement forever. I've come to the conclusion I'm very bad at it, and should have let DH finish, but I was getting impatient. Other non pregnant activities have been attempting to go hardcore at starting our basement renos. We only have two bedrooms upstairs, and one of them is our office- so once we have a baby, we lose our office. The plan was for it to go downstairs, but right now that basement is pure storage, it's not finished at all. So needless to say, we're trying to get it finished inside now that we've done the foundation. If money keeps going like it is, then financially we could have it done by spring. However on the time/work input side... I still have no done time in time. lol. We've been exceptionally lazy.
ps guys-- I noticed everytime I reply- the box on the left side that says "get notified when others reply"- it defaults back to daily digest. You might want to make sure you're checking this when you post!
Hey, Shannon. Nice to see you again. I've been wondering where you were. That's cool that you can post your chart. Now you'll have to give us all step-by-step instructions. I'm getting rather frustrated with this new forum, too many glitches and changes to try to figure out all at once. The smilies should be fixed by Monday, at least.
I do prefer cervical fluid over cervical mucous. I think that's just because it's discussed in TCOYF and just stuck in my head. Mucous doesn't bother me but I can see how it might turn others off. I stick to fluid because I think it makes the idea of tracking CF more palatable to the masses. It confuses people a lot. There have been many times when I've posted CF repeatedly on FF and continue to get responses about CP. I don't know if people just see it wrong or assume it's a typo.
JJ ~ I'm terrible at staining and finishing and painting and things like that. DH won't even let me try any more. :lol It is kind of frustrating, though, because he's gone so much that things don't get done. We've been in this house for almost 3 1/2 years and he still hasn't finished painting. He begs me not to try and refuses to let me hire someone else to do it. I finally told him that I'm hiring someone to finish whatever he doesn't get to before he leaves again. We're going to have to move right after he gets back and I'd like to be able to have the house finished for at least a little bit while I'm still here.
Nothing much else going on with me. I think I posted that my tests from this morning were BFN. I saved them to throw away after dh leaves because he gets upset with me for testing so much. So, of course, I have to go back and recheck them periodically. The IC is still stark white but the DT now has a very obvious line on it. It has to be an evap because I am certain there was nothing there before. I even took the thing apart at the 10 minute mark and saw nothing. I've never seen such an obvious evap. It's interesting. I may keep it for posterity. Hehe
hi! i would like to whatever. i am temping but not really caring about timing anything. i am only writing things down so in case i get preg i will know when i conceived. i am pretty much keeping my mouth shut about my cycle and letting DH decided when we DTD. lol. which is what he wanted. he says we are going to do it. and he doesnt exzpect it to take long. he said he thought i was preg already but a test confirmed i am not. please add me. :)
Hi Lionessmom! We don't have an official list or anything, moreso we're just an ongoing chat thread. Welcome, and hopefully we won't suck you in with some of our more 'non-whatever' practices. A few of us are getting extra eager!! lol
The staining is thankfully for the inside shelves of the buffet, so as long as they look vaguely the same color, it shouldn't matter. DH did the outside at least, so that part is uniform.
I'm waiting for a prof 'ok' to do my term paper on post partum depression and the cultural causes and responses. It may be the only paper i've been excited about in 5+ years.
Had a friend tell me today "stop worrying and causing stress where there is none. You each have three siblings, you won't have any trouble. just have sex every day and boom." Ok, first off, easier said than done- second-- how many siblings we have has no bearing on our own fertility. *headspin* This is where I need the smilie that smacks it's hand to it's forehead.
MW-- If it will take in a photo, I'd love to see the obvious evap! I'm very curious.
For CF/CM I prefer fluid-- obviously it sounds 'nicer' but more than that I feel like it gives a more accurate picture-- because sometimes the fluid ISNT mucousy- it really is just fluid. Less confusion.
Hey, Shannon. Nice to see you again. I've been wondering where you were. That's cool that you can post your chart. Now you'll have to give us all step-by-step instructions. I'm getting rather frustrated with this new forum, too many glitches and changes to try to figure out all at once. The smilies should be fixed by Monday, at least.
I do prefer cervical fluid over cervical mucous. I think that's just because it's discussed in TCOYF and just stuck in my head. Mucous doesn't bother me but I can see how it might turn others off. I stick to fluid because I think it makes the idea of tracking CF more palatable to the masses. It confuses people a lot. There have been many times when I've posted CF repeatedly on FF and continue to get responses about CP. I don't know if people just see it wrong or assume it's a typo.
JJ ~ I'm terrible at staining and finishing and painting and things like that. DH won't even let me try any more. :lol It is kind of frustrating, though, because he's gone so much that things don't get done. We've been in this house for almost 3 1/2 years and he still hasn't finished painting. He begs me not to try and refuses to let me hire someone else to do it. I finally told him that I'm hiring someone to finish whatever he doesn't get to before he leaves again. We're going to have to move right after he gets back and I'd like to be able to have the house finished for at least a little bit while I'm still here.
Nothing much else going on with me. I think I posted that my tests from this morning were BFN. I saved them to throw away after dh leaves because he gets upset with me for testing so much. So, of course, I have to go back and recheck them periodically. The IC is still stark white but the DT now has a very obvious line on it. It has to be an evap because I am certain there was nothing there before. I even took the thing apart at the 10 minute mark and saw nothing. I've never seen such an obvious evap. It's interesting. I may keep it for posterity. Hehe
That's how my first DT test was! Such an obvious line the next day! I still think that one was an evap. Can't wait to hear what your test tomorrow is!
Annie ~ I thought of your experience earlier when I was thinking about that test. I've gone back and checked it several times since. I'm sure it's an evap. When I first saw it, it was thick like the control and looked pink but now there's only a thin, gray line. At first, I was considering using one of my FRERs later today but now I think I'll wait until tomorrow.
Quote:
That's how my first DT test was! Such an obvious line the next day! I still think that one was an evap. Can't wait to hear what your test tomorrow is!
To post your chart in the thread:
-Go to your public FF page, not your homepage.
-Right click on your chart and select "copy image URL."
-In your MDC post draft click the "insert image" icon.
-Click the "image URL" tab, paste your chart image link into the "import URL" box, and click "submit."
I tried it twice. It's not working for me. I keep getting an error message that it can't get the image from FF.
Hi Lionessmom! We don't have an official list or anything, moreso we're just an ongoing chat thread. Welcome, and hopefully we won't suck you in with some of our more 'non-whatever' practices. A few of us are getting extra eager!! lol
cool. i can feel myself getting more eager by the day. lol. i am now trying to figure out exactly when i will start my ppaf by obsessing over real or imagined PMS symptoms. i am having several but i am trying to not get too excited. :)
My positivity is gone. I got BFNs again this morning with FRER and my IC. I know it's way early at 8dpo but I can't help thinking I'm out since I've gotten BFPs at 7dpo twice before. I'm trying to hold onto some hope but it's not working very well. I just feel like crying. I barely even feel like I Oed much less like I could be pg. And I know it's ridiculous but I keep thinking my dh is somehow purposely sabotaging me. Then that makes me feel even worse because it's so sad that I would distrust him like that. I wish I could go back to bed and sleep for 4 days.
DH is gone, by the way. At least, I think he is. We dropped him off last night. He said he would text me when they were getting on the plane to leave. He thought that would be around 8 am but I haven't gotten a text yet. He probably got busy and forgot until he was on the plane and didn't have a signal. I don't know if/when I'll hear from him once he's arrived because he said cell phone service is spotty. which means a month of possibly not hearing from him at all. I'm sure that's affecting my mood.
I still can't post an image so here's a link to my chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/coconutsFFChart
Yay! I figured out how to post an image of my chart. It just occurred to me that Shannon said to go to your PUBLIC page. It didn't click in my mind before that she meant my homepage. I was copying the image location from my own chart page. Anyway, I just copied the image location from my homepage and it worked.
Or not. It shows up when I preview but disappears when I submit.
My positivity is gone. I got BFNs again this morning with FRER and my IC. I know it's way early at 8dpo but I can't help thinking I'm out since I've gotten BFPs at 7dpo twice before. I'm trying to hold onto some hope but it's not working very well. I just feel like crying. I barely even feel like I Oed much less like I could be pg. And I know it's ridiculous but I keep thinking my dh is somehow purposely sabotaging me. Then that makes me feel even worse because it's so sad that I would distrust him like that. I wish I could go back to bed and sleep for 4 days.
DH is gone, by the way. At least, I think he is. We dropped him off last night. He said he would text me when they were getting on the plane to leave. He thought that would be around 8 am but I haven't gotten a text yet. He probably got busy and forgot until he was on the plane and didn't have a signal. I don't know if/when I'll hear from him once he's arrived because he said cell phone service is spotty. which means a month of possibly not hearing from him at all. I'm sure that's affecting my mood.
I still can't post an image so here's a link to my chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/coconutsFFChart
Hugs! I can't imagine DH being gone for so long and so often. I hope you get a better test answer tomorrow. Temp looked great from this morning!
Thanks, Annie. I can't really get excited about my temp from today because it almost always rises like that around this time. If you look at my past charts, almost all of them look possibly triphasic.
I keep forgetting you are in Virginia. What are the homebirth laws like there? When I last lived there it was illegal for a MW to attend a homebirth but I believe that has changed. That was 2003.
Thanks, Annie. I can't really get excited about my temp from today because it almost always rises like that around this time. If you look at my past charts, almost all of them look possibly triphasic.
I keep forgetting you are in Virginia. What are the homebirth laws like there? When I last lived there it was illegal for a MW to attend a homebirth but I believe that has changed. That was 2003.
Ahh gotcha. I keep forgetting to scroll down and look at your other charts.
It is technically legal to have a HB MW now in Virginia but some insurances still will not cover it. So for me, it's cost prohibitive to have a homebirth since my insurance won't cover it. There is only one set of homebirth MWs in my area and their cost is $3000 for the birth. I have pretty good insurance through my employer so my max out of pocket for the birth through a hospital would be $1200. I can't justify the extra money for the homebirth, especially since the hospital here is very mama and baby friendly so there's very little intervention, baby never leaves mama unless medically necessary, etc. I'm considering using the MW that delivers in the hospital but I won't know until Monday whether or not she will take me on. She only takes 2 new patients per due month and she's already got two new people for July. The nurse is supposed to talk to her tomorrow and then let me know.
Hugs, MW, on all the above. Having your DH leaving and having such mixed feelings about your cycle must be so tough. Hang in there. You will have answers soon - one way or the other.
I think I'm finally at peace with not being pg, and am looking forward to a month "off" of obsessiveness. I feel like I can breathe a little!
I'm still not digging this new format, but it's growing on me!!
Annie - that hospital sounds dreamy. If I had a place like that I wouldn't mind birthing in a hospital. Unfortunately, here in NJ they just aren't like that so, I'm so much better off at home!! You sure are lucky to have that available since MWs there are $$. Just for comparison, though, my last midwife charged $6250!! Our insurance covered a little more than $4000 so it worked out, but it sure was a lot of $$ to think about at the time.
$3000 isn't bad. If I had had ds3 in a hospital, I think the most it would have cost me was $50. That's how much it was to have ds2 in the army hospital in Hawaii. If I had TriCare Prime, it would have been free but I have Standard so I pay a deductible and a co-pay. Anyway, my MW here was around that. Now I can't remember if she charged $2500 or $3500. It was worth every penny, though.
I'm being plagues by evaps again. I took a pic of my newest ones but there's something wrong with my SD card and my computer can't get the pics off it. There's one pic on there that's corrupted, apparently, and that is messing up everything. I know it's an evap, though, because I used 2 of the same brand tests in the same urine. The one with the evap, the line showed up at 2 minutes and I started to get excited. I mean I was shaking and everything. I waited and waited and it didn't go away so I decided to do another test to see if it would confirm. No dice. The 2nd test was stark white.
BC~ Where do you live in NJ?
Oh my effing Gosh! Sorry for the expletive. I took another IC after not drinking anything for 4 hours. I thought I was seeing yet another frickin evap. I was debating what to do. I have one more Answer Early I could use but I didn't want to waste it. I have a box of 3 EPT digis. I was sure I wouldn't get a BFP on those even if these ICs were actually + because they list 50 mIU sensitivity. I decided what the heck. I'll use one EPT just to prove to myself that I'm getting evaps. The thing was taking forever to finish so I was sure it would say, "not pregnant". But, OMG! It says "pregnant"! I can't believe it. First, I can't believe I'm pg. Second, I can't believe I got a positive with an EPT digi at only 8dpo with nighttime urine. I've taken pics with my phone and I'm trying to get them uploaded. I'll post asap.
Follow Mothering