November Whatever Thread - Page 5

[MarineWife]

I can see that, Annie! I did have to tilt my screen a little but I definitely see it. So the other store had the old tests, then? That's what you were saying? Ugh, now I hope I don't have the new ones.

DH said he didn't know if he'd be able to fulfill his husbandly duty tonight. 3 days in a row ! I issued him a challenge; every night through the weekend. 5 days in a row. hehe

[Kindermama]

Originally Posted by AnnieA

No I LOVE the old ones. I hate the new ones, the super skinny ones that you haven't seen yet. Blech, I wouldn't be surprised if the line from Wednesday was an evap.

Anyways, o.k. this is not a great pic and it is super faint but here you go ladies! Enjoy!

http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/...t=DSC04313.jpg

That's definitely positive! It looks like mine but hey that's not an IC, so trust it! Congrats Mama!

I kinda wish you had an IC there because then I'd ask you to report if it fades over the course of half a day like mine did!!

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

I can see that, Annie! I did have to tilt my screen a little but I definitely see it. So the other store had the old tests, then? That's what you were saying? Ugh, now I hope I don't have the new ones.

DH said he didn't know if he'd be able to fulfill his husbandly duty tonight. 3 days in a row ! I issued him a challenge; every night through the weekend. 5 days in a row. hehe

Yeah the other store had the old tests. Sorry, my brain isn't working very well right now! If you open the box, you should be able to feel through the white packaging whether it's an old one or a new one. The new ones are SOOOO small. I wish I hadn't left them at my office because I would try to take a pic with all of them so you guys could see how different the lines are. Of course I guess it's possible that my hcg level has risen throughout the day so it was higher at 5 PM than it was at 7 AM so that's why the difference in the tests. But I just think the new ones are not as sensitive.

5 days in a row!?! Do you think he can keep up with you?

[AnnieA]

Oh and about the time change and temping, I don't do anything fancy. I just take my temp when it says 5 AM on my phone. Because honestly, some days I temp earlier than that anyways. If I wake up at 4 and I have to pee, I will go ahead and take my temp before I get out of bed to pee.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by AnnieA

Of course I guess it's possible that my hcg level has risen throughout the day so it was higher at 5 PM than it was at 7 AM so that's why the difference in the tests.

They say there are a lot of reasons why the lines on the test might be lighter or darker. Who knows?

Originally Posted by AnnieA

5 days in a row!?! Do you think he can keep up with you?

We shall see. Honestly, I probably won't be able to do that, either. I'll be happy if we can make it tonight and tomorrow night (assuming I actually O this time).

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

They say there are a lot of reasons why the lines on the test might be lighter or darker. Who knows?



We shall see. Honestly, I probably won't be able to do that, either. I'll be happy if we can make it tonight and tomorrow night (assuming I actually O this time).

Just stalked your chart and it looks like you were able to convince him last night!

I took another test this AM and it's still really light but I went ahead and marked it on FF as a BFP. Hopefully my friend will call today with my numbers. If I need the progesterone, I'm going to get her to prescribe the oral tabs instead this time. I really hate the vaginal suppository compounds. I feel like half of it is leaking out of me!

My chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1f0436

[Baby_Cakes]

Annie - I see it! I totally see it! And per your recs, I'm not going to stop off today on the way home and p/u and DT tests. Forget it! Thanks for your opinion on them!

MW - on getting one more bd in! If you guys aren't up for it tonight don't stress out too much! I hope your temp is up SOON!!

JJ - on that bfn. It's early. Keep reminding yourself that. It's so hard to feel out, ugh, I know. I hope it's just a late implanter and your time is NOW!

Kinder - again!

So many bfps! I really want to join you guys!!

AFM - it took all my strength not to test this morning (i'm only 9 dpo)! I didn't though, and I'm not going to. I have vowed that unless shows before, or my temp drops suddenly, to test on TUESDAY. Keep me honest, ladies!
I do have tender bbs, but they do this every cycle so they just cannot be trusted
I'm a little crampy -- but I'm still *ahem* backed up a bit, so it could just be that I need to use the bathroom.
So...just speculating at this point. I'm trying real hard not to be too hopeful but it isn't working. My chart is beautiful and our timing was impeccable, and DH is finally 100% on board, and I'm no longer harboring any fears about labor/birth. Ugh it's just everything feels right.

[Kindermama]

BC~ False positives...damn ICs. I tested again on a 6 day FRER (only because my DH woke me up at 7 am and insisted--poor guy got his hopes up) and it was negative. Nothing. Nadda.

Those pink wrapper FRER test 10 mius right?

Annie--did you take another test this morning? pic?

A question to all you chart'ers:

How do you temp each morning and not let it disturb your sleep? I temped for just one month and found my sleep was really restless and I woke up at various times in the early morning in anticipation of my temperature for that day...was it higher, lower, implantation dip?, triphasic rise?....You get the idea! Sometimes I would lay there for over an hour! I think I need a thermometer which takes my temp and records it so I can just go right back to sleep (which brand?). I have a hard time falling back asleep once my mind starts revving up. Any suggestions? I'd like to keep temping.

[MarineWife]

Oops, everyone. We didn't actually dtd last night. I put that in when I was messing with my chart to see what kind of BD ratings I would get with various O days and BD scenarios. I forgot to take it out. DH didn't get home until almost 9 last night. I thought he was up for dtd but when we finally got to our bed he declined. My temp is still down this am, though, so it'll be ok for tonight.

Kinder ~ The ICs go as low as 10 mIU, too. Personally, I'd trust an IC over FRER. I do not like FRER. How many dpo are you?

By the way, there's no such thing as a false +. It's either a chemical pregnancy or an evap line. Just a difference in wording, I know, but I think it's important to clarify.

Annie ~ I know the suppositories are a pita but they are more bioeffective since they don't have to pass through the gut. They also are a lot less likely to give you side effects like nausea.

Carrie ~ Hold on, girl!

[Kindermama]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Kinder ~ The ICs go as low as 10 mIU, too. Personally, I'd trust an IC over FRER. I do not like FRER. How many dpo are you?

I don't know if I have the newer 10 miu tests or the older 20 mius. I'm pretty sure I got the 20s from early-pregnancy-tests.com because I went to reorder yesterday and noticed they had the 10 mius and I don't remember seeing those or ordering them in the past.

I'm 11 dpo today. I used my last IC yesterday so now all I have are FRERs. I'm just doing to wait to see if AF comes on Tuesday. By tomorrow or Sunday, I'll know for sure because that's when I get signs.

[AnnieA]

Got a call back from my friend. HCG yesterday morning was 18 and my progesterone was 15.9....so I'm definitely pregnant! We talked about what to do with the progesterone and decided to do 200 mg oral and we'll recheck in two weeks. The suppositories that I have left are only 50 mg which I now know is pretty low.

It's not that I hate all DT tests, I just am not that fond of the new skinny ones. But honestly they showed the faintest line with my hcg at 18 so I guess they work. The test I took this AM pretty much looks like the one from last night. I haven't decided if I am going to take another one later today or just wait for tomorrow morning.

[Kindermama]

Congratulations Annie!

Who's this "friend"...is your friend a doc?

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by Kindermama

Congratulations Annie!

Who's this "friend"...is your friend a doc?

Yes, sorry. Should have clarified! She's a family practice doc but she doesn't do OB otherwise she would be my OB as well.

[Toolip]

hey can you ladies post some chart links for those of us stalking you who don't have you all bookmarked!

Very exciting month so far!

[MarineWife]

Kinder ~ I don't know specifically about the earlypregnancytest htps but the one I have only claim 20 mIU but they go lower. I know because I've gotten BFPs with them with lower hcg levels confirmed through blood work. I got BFPs on Answer Early, DT and ICs with only 10-12 mIU hcg.

Annie ~ There was no question! The suppositories are lower because they are more bioavailable so they don't need to have as much in them. You lose a lot of the progesterone ( or any other oral med) to the acids in the gut, which is why the oral doses are higher. If you use two 50 mg suppositories a day, you'd probably get the same blood serum level of progesterone as you would using 200 mg oral progesterone.

What was your progesterone like before that's got you worried that it's low? When was it tested? Did your friend say 15.9 at this point is good or did she think that was a little low, too?

I'm wondering because my progesterone when I was pg in May 2009 was 14.9 at somewhere between 3 and 4 weeks. The OB told me that was fine and didn't give me a script for progesterone. Since I m/ced I can't help but wonder if the progesterone would have helped. When I was pg in July of this year my progesterone was only 1.9. That was obviously way too low and the MFM doc said I might have a lpd. However, it was tested after I had already started to m/c so I don't know if it was low before or not.

Toolip ~ Nothing significant on my chart to post yet. I'm still waiting to O. I did get a + opk yesterday along with having ewcf and a HSO CP so I'm hoping O will be today or tomorrow.

[AnnieA]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Kinder ~ I don't know specifically about the earlypregnancytest htps but the one I have only claim 20 mIU but they go lower. I know because I've gotten BFPs with them with lower hcg levels confirmed through blood work. I got BFPs on Answer Early, DT and ICs with only 10-12 mIU hcg.

Annie ~ There was no question! The suppositories are lower because they are more bioavailable so they don't need to have as much in them. You lose a lot of the progesterone ( or any other oral med) to the acids in the gut, which is why the oral doses are higher. If you use two 50 mg suppositories a day, you'd probably get the same blood serum level of progesterone as you would using 200 mg oral progesterone.

What was your progesterone like before that's got you worried that it's low? When was it tested? Did your friend say 15.9 at this point is good or did she think that was a little low, too?

I'm wondering because my progesterone when I was pg in May 2009 was 14.9 at somewhere between 3 and 4 weeks. The OB told me that was fine and didn't give me a script for progesterone. Since I m/ced I can't help but wonder if the progesterone would have helped. When I was pg in July of this year my progesterone was only 1.9. That was obviously way too low and the MFM doc said I might have a lpd. However, it was tested after I had already started to m/c so I don't know if it was low before or not.

Toolip ~ Nothing significant on my chart to post yet. I'm still waiting to O. I did get a + opk yesterday along with having ewcf and a HSO CP so I'm hoping O will be today or tomorrow.

With my last pregnancy, my progesterone at 5w5d was 10.9 so that's why I went on supplements originally. I had spoken with my dr friend recently and we agreed that if I got pg again, we needed to check my level ASAP to see if it needed supplementing. She said that ideally your progesterone level should be 20 or above around 4 weeks so she thought that 15.9 was a little low. Her statement was "it can't hurt".

[onetwoten]

My gosh guys! It's shaping up to be a very exciting month for the threat. Congrats Annie!! Keep us in the loop as you slowly move over to the July group!

Kinder-- We're in the same boat, though I'm 12dpo today now. Just kind of forcing myself to wait longer until I test again. I'd rather get AF then another negative. I'm just glad it was an obvious neg, rather than an "I'm not really sure"... that seems so much more stressful.

MW-- Yay for one more chance!! Have fun!!

Babycakes: Well you usually give in and test early, and Kinder and I won't be testing until later, so we might all be testing around the same time again! lol

I didnt' even know they MADE tests with 10miu-- I've only ever seen the 25 quoted as lowest. Dude I'm out of the loop. Both the FRER I used and the new DT quote 25, but like others said, they've been reported to show earlier. I believe they say 10dpo average hcg is 25, and then 50 by 12dpo. That's why it's so much more likely to get a good pos at 12dpo. But of course, every woman differs a bit.

AFM: I'm hyper sensitive about every sign, both good and bad. I'll have cramps for 5 minutes and be convinced AF is about to start, but then I'll go to the washroom and have still white creamy CF, and be grinning like a fool. Then I'll remember the negative, and tell myself it's on it's way anyways, and then I'll get a wave of nausea. Not fair. Too many "things".

I'm not having any pinkish CF yet, like I usually do before AF, but she's been 13 and 14 days sometimes lately, so it's semi normal if I don't start until tomorrow or the next day anyways. Not as common, but not unheard of. Other than that-- the cramping seems to be calming down, which is good. it makes it hard to focus at work. I am super tired, fairly cranky (probably from the stress though) nauseus, hungry, verry tired. It's just nothing enough to tell one way or another.

I'm going to try to hold off through tomorrow until Monday. We'll see how it goes. I only have one test left.

Chart Here

[lyterae]

Annie: Congratulations!!

JJ: Your chart looks very promising,

[onetwoten]

Ok, DH and I had a nice night cuddling on the couch, watching our new favorite tv show and relaxing, but now he's gone to bed, and I'm up still, and my mind won't shut offffff...

No AF yet. I'm getting excited again, and hoping I'm not setting myself up. No spotting even when I check my cervix, it's still just creamy CF.

I did the calculations today. Baby would be due 3 days before my birthday, 9 weeks after my SIL is due. I would be just short of 11 weeks at Christmas.

Ok... I'm gonna go attempt to sleep now. lol

[MarineWife]

Thanks, Annie.

JJ ~ I had the same problem last night. I could not fall asleep. I think I remember looking at the clock at around 1 am and then I got up to pee around 2 am. And, of course, I woke up at 7 am (which was technically only 6 am) and couldn't go back to sleep when I was supposed to temp at 6:40 because of the time change.

How weird is this? I woke up to a song in my head. I don't know the words so the tune was just running in my head driving me crazy. When my dh got up he got on his computer to look up a song that he heard and liked but didn't know the name of. It was the same song! Oh, I woke up before he did so the song didn't sneak into my head because he was listening to it and I wasn't humming or singing it nor did I mention it to him in any way.

We all now know that DT hpts can go lower than 25 since Annie has had + for 3 days now (is that right?) and her hcg on the 3rd day was only 18.

My temp was up this morning. It's high enough above yesterday's temp to indicate O. It's not quite above my CL, though. I sure hope it's the start of my thermal shift. My FF chart